[MGS 4] THE TWIST REVEALD!! i figured out the big twist of the game....

OK Listen im going to tell you the Big twist of MGS4 leave if u dont want the story to be ruined. Also this may only make sense to Fans of METAL GEAR SOLID.

The Big Twist: Ok after playing MGS2 again and some research, i found out that The main character that you control in MGS4 (old man snake)... ISNT INFACT SNAKE... You are controlling a Main "bad guy" from MGS2: BIG BOSS,SOLIDUS SNAKE, George Sears however you wanna call him... But yes its him!! andI will show u the evidence.

Ok firstly i want you to watch this trailor: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnbf8GZgvXQ

At the video time of 5:45 (5 minutes and 45 seconds) you will notice that -apart from being **** on- You will see SNAKE.. but surprisingly young!?!? well thats it, this is the real snake. But he is no longer the main character, you will be using SOLIDUS. Not convinced yet? well check these pictures of SOLIDUS:

BEFORE EYEPATCH:http://games.tom.com/zhuanti/mgs2s/images/solidus03.jpg

AFTER EYEPATCH: http://www.metalgearsolid.org/admin/data/upimages/uploaded/solidussnake2.jpg

Can you see how he looks alot like the new Main character in MGS4?? well it may just be a coincidence? hmm well look at his eye patch.. its on HIS Left eye. Now hav a look at the Character you control in MGS4:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1115/mgs4oy9.jpg

HMM its on HIS Left eye!!! ok by now the idea of coincidence may aswell be thrown in the trash. Afterall this "Huge twist" ideais not a new thing to the METAL GEAR SOLID series.. jus one example is in MGS2... the president being a terrorist! lol..

Anyway i hope i have convinced you guys!!! sorry if i stopped you from jumping out of ur sofa so high that usmack ur head on the celing and then drop the controller on the floor as you grab ur head in pain only to find out that your little bro curiously picks up the controller and walks away with it.... and.... yea.

Andrew Brockman ( i hope HIDEO finds out i solved this twist so he hands over the role of story making to meee!!! James1029384756@hotmail.com) =)

Wrong it is solid snake not solidus play the game again and pay attention.

Otacon to talked to old snake and otacon only knows Solid snake and is his close friend, I don't know why people still think thats big boss or he would be in his 100.

Wrong it is solid snake not solidus play the game again and pay attention.

Otacon to talked to old snake and otacon only knows Solid snake and is his close friend, I don't know why people still think thats big boss he would be in his 100.

SolidSnake2020

not ALL people think that. what about us? the ones like you and me who knows about the games? and the story of all the games? and have even the really old games.

solidus is dead

snake is old because of the imperfect cloning technique they used from big boss.

can figure out the young snake though

[QUOTE="SolidSnake2020"]

Wrong it is solid snake not solidus play the game again and pay attention.

Otacon to talked to old snake and otacon only knows Solid snake and is his close friend, I don't know why people still think thats big boss he would be in his 100.

zeforgotten

not ALL people think that. what about us? the ones like you and me who knows about the games? and the story of all the games? and have even the really old games.

what about meeee!!?

And I don't trust these trailers one diddlybit!

Remember the Mgs2 trailers... they where not trustworthy at all , They even switched so it was snake fighting fortune just to throw you off!!

I'm sure that whatever speculation will be brought up based on the trailers, will probably be wrong, because the trailers probably do not show what the entire game will be like. AT ALL!

solidus is dead

snake is old because of the imperfect cloning technique they used from big boss.

can figure out the young snake though

Nero_Paladin

[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]

solidus is dead

snake is old because of the imperfect cloning technique they used from big boss.

can figure out the young snake though

acidic_dude

Bingo

Or it could be just a part of the octocam...either way kojima wants us to go insane thinking about it so lets change the subject...ducks...whats up with them?Lamilia

haha...

yeah feeding them what kinda past time is that? lol

Poorly thought out theory there. Solidus died at the end of MGS2.

This is Kojima's last game, we are playing as Snake.

Young snake...might be a clone of snake, maybe Kojima just playing with us. Or both. But we're playing snake in MGS4 end of it.

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

If "Old Snake" was indeed Solidus, why would his voice sound like "Solid Snake"(English E3 2007 trailer)??? Solidus' voice differ from Solid's(Are you sure you played MGS2several times as you mentioned in your first post???!).Your theory doesn't make any sense. And remember we all thought that the masked man was the youngSnake but it was in fact the old snake proved in the gameplay demo where he grabs the statue.

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

AgentH

yes sir you have satisfied me i think that this is correct and will most likely happen

...this is one of the worst, weirdest and yet most interesting "Young Snake in the trailer" theory yet.

Solid Snake voiceover: David Hayter

Solidus Snake voiceover: John Cygan

Voice in E3 07 Trailer: David Hayter

Character in E3 07 trailer: Solid Snake

...got it?

I would say Young Snake is just Solid Snake using the Octocam, since white hair is sticking out of the face mask, before he hide as one of the statues...FlemmingM

Young Snake's hair are shown to be GRAY whereas OLD Snake's hair are white. The masked man is OLD Snake, because of the white hair popping out of the mask. Latest gameplay demo Kojima shows how Old Snake puts on the mask and grabs the statue. It doesn't need anymore proves. It was clear in the gameplay demo.

Young Snake = Old Snake = Solid Snake, the hero of shadow moses, Big Boss' killer, and the FoxDie survivor!!

As I stated in my preview post, MGS4 happens in different period of time. That's all there is to the 'Young Snake' story.

Young Snake's hair are shown to be GRAY whereas OLD Snake's hair are white.

AgentH

OK Listen im going to tell you the Big twist of MGS4 leave if u dont want the story to be ruined. Also this may only make sense to Fans of METAL GEAR SOLID.

The Big Twist: Ok after playing MGS2 again and some research, i found out that The main character that you control in MGS4 (old man snake)... ISNT INFACT SNAKE... You are controlling a Main "bad guy" from MGS2: BIG BOSS,SOLIDUS SNAKE, George Sears however you wanna call him... But yes its him!! andI will show u the evidence.

Ok firstly i want you to watch this trailor: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnbf8GZgvXQ

At the video time of 5:45 (5 minutes and 45 seconds) you will notice that -apart from being **** on- You will see SNAKE.. but surprisingly young!?!? well thats it, this is the real snake. But he is no longer the main character, you will be using SOLIDUS. Not convinced yet? well check these pictures of SOLIDUS:

BEFORE EYEPATCH:http://games.tom.com/zhuanti/mgs2s/images/solidus03.jpg

AFTER EYEPATCH: http://www.metalgearsolid.org/admin/data/upimages/uploaded/solidussnake2.jpg

Can you see how he looks alot like the new Main character in MGS4?? well it may just be a coincidence? hmm well look at his eye patch.. its on HIS Left eye. Now hav a look at the Character you control in MGS4:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1115/mgs4oy9.jpg

HMM its on HIS Left eye!!! ok by now the idea of coincidence may aswell be thrown in the trash. Afterall this "Huge twist" ideais not a new thing to the METAL GEAR SOLID series.. jus one example is in MGS2... the president being a terrorist! lol..

Anyway i hope i have convinced you guys!!! sorry if i stopped you from jumping out of ur sofa so high that usmack ur head on the celing and then drop the controller on the floor as you grab ur head in pain only to find out that your little bro curiously picks up the controller and walks away with it.... and.... yea.

Andrew Brockman ( i hope HIDEO finds out i solved this twist so he hands over the role of story making to meee!!! James1029384756@hotmail.com) =)

aibsaibs

Old Snake is sOLiD Snake... End of story. Young Snake is something Kojima put in the trailer to mess with us, Like the Raiden mask in MGS3.

it's solid snake and i have a good proof.

watch the new gameplay trailer (prefered at HD) http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22702.html

now during the time of the "real=time cut scene" we see snake through the camera of the metal gear MK 2 right? well notice that at some point for a slight moment a data box apears about the person mk2 is looking, which is solid sanke at the moment and it says these exact things:

name: ?????????

age: ????????

height: 182.0 cm

weight: 63.5kg

eye: blue gray

skin: white

codename: SOLID SNAKE

you see SOLID SNAKE it is SOLID SNAKE and you can't say "well mk2 is just showing solid snake's details for fun" cos it also says "match" at the details box.

Poorly thought out theory there. Solidus died at the end of MGS2.

This is Kojima's last game, we are playing as Snake.

Young snake...might be a clone of snake, maybe Kojima just playing with us. Or both. But we're playing snake in MGS4 end of it.

PrimordialMeme

Hello I'm new to the site and was compelled to sign up as a result of this topic. My take on the whole young snake issue is that he is none other than the son of Big Boss. If you recall at the end of MGS3 Big Boss goes to Alaska with Eva and from the scene we all know what happened. At the end they give a time line of the major events and it states Eva disappears without a trace. But she is now making an appearance on MGS4 which if I'm correct could explain her motive in the game. Solid Snakes fast aging is due to the FOXDIE virus still in his system. Well let me know what you all think.

Here is the link to the pics of EVA in MGS4 for those who have not seen them.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161466

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

If "Old Snake" was indeed Solidus, why would his voice sound like "Solid Snake"(English E3 2007 trailer)??? Solidus' voice differ from Solid's(Are you sure you played MGS2several times as you mentioned in your first post???!).Your theory doesn't make any sense. And remember we all thought that the masked man was the youngSnake but it was in fact the old snake proved in the gameplay demo where he grabs the statue.

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

AgentH

i dont think that your right because in the trailor that was released on the PSN the masked character and old snake are in the same scene. how can they be in two places at once?

Hello I'm new to the site and was compelled to sign up as a result of this topic. My take on the whole young snake issue is that he is none other than the son of Big Boss. If you recall at the end of MGS3 Big Boss goes to Alaska with Eva and from the scene we all know what happened. At the end they give a time line of the major events and it states Eva disappears without a trace. But she is now making an appearance on MGS4 which if I'm correct could explain her motive in the game. Solid Snakes fast aging is due to the FOXDIE virus still in his system. Well let me know what you all think.

Here is the link to the pics of EVA in MGS4 for those who have not seen them.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161466

BigBoss25

i tihnk that this is a very possible description

Hello I'm new to the site and was compelled to sign up as a result of this topic. My take on the whole young snake issue is that he is none other than the son of Big Boss. If you recall at the end of MGS3 Big Boss goes to Alaska with Eva and from the scene we all know what happened. At the end they give a time line of the major events and it states Eva disappears without a trace. But she is now making an appearance on MGS4 which if I'm correct could explain her motive in the game. Solid Snakes fast aging is due to the FOXDIE virus still in his system. Well let me know what you all think.

Here is the link to the pics of EVA in MGS4 for those who have not seen them.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161466

BigBoss25

IT'S NOT FOXDIE. HE'S A CLONE. He's aging fast cause HE'S A CLONE. Did Solidus have Foxdie? He was old in MGS2 wasn't he? He didn't have Foxdie. I thought this was explained so many times before?!

That was just a terrible theory. Way off, man. Way off.

Or it could just be FOXDie (cloning virus thingy).FusionApex

It's not FoxDie. Do you even know what FoxDie is??? FoxDie was a virus programmed at specific targets making their hearts mimmick a heart attack, driving the heart cells to kill themselves. It also can be said as some sort of nanomachine virus aswell. FoxDie "the cloning virus version" doesn't even exist. It's not what's aging Snake. HE AGING CAUSE HE'S A CLONE. Why? Cause that's what happens with clones!! Any hardcore MGS fan that actually knows the story would tell you IT'S NOT FOXDIE RELATED FOR THE LAST FREAKN' TIME!

By the way TC, don't quit your day job...

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

If "Old Snake" was indeed Solidus, why would his voice sound like "Solid Snake"(English E3 2007 trailer)??? Solidus' voice differ from Solid's(Are you sure you played MGS2several times as you mentioned in your first post???!).Your theory doesn't make any sense. And remember we all thought that the masked man was the youngSnake but it was in fact the old snake proved in the gameplay demo where he grabs the statue.

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

ski11buzz

i dont think that your right because in the trailor that was released on the PSN the masked character and old snake are in the same scene. how can they be in two places at once?

Okay let's get this thing straight once and for all: There are 2 MASKED men shown in the MGS4 trailers. There is the first one who was shown last year, seconds before revealing young snake. The one who grabs the statue. and The second masked man is the one in the E3 2007 trailer, the one who screamed "Johnathan" and was rumored to be Raiden. I was reffering to the first one! Okay thanks BYEBYE!

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

If "Old Snake" was indeed Solidus, why would his voice sound like "Solid Snake"(English E3 2007 trailer)??? Solidus' voice differ from Solid's(Are you sure you played MGS2several times as you mentioned in your first post???!).Your theory doesn't make any sense. And remember we all thought that the masked man was the youngSnake but it was in fact the old snake proved in the gameplay demo where he grabs the statue.

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

AgentH

i dont think that your right because in the trailor that was released on the PSN the masked character and old snake are in the same scene. how can they be in two places at once?

Okay let's get this thing straight once and for all: There are 2 MASKED men shown in the MGS4 trailers. There is the first one who was shown last year, seconds before revealing young snake. The one who grabs the statue. and The second masked man is the one in the E3 2007 trailer, the one who screamed "Johnathan" and was rumored to be Raiden. I was reffering to the first one! Okay thanks BYEBYE!

Again, don't quit your day job.

[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

Simple reply to your pointless theory:

If "Old Snake" was indeed Solidus, why would his voice sound like "Solid Snake"(English E3 2007 trailer)??? Solidus' voice differ from Solid's(Are you sure you played MGS2several times as you mentioned in your first post???!).Your theory doesn't make any sense. And remember we all thought that the masked man was the youngSnake but it was in fact the old snake proved in the gameplay demo where he grabs the statue.

So who is YOUNG SNAKE???

Answer: None other than Solid Snake himself and NO it's NOT the Octocam!

This will be Solid Snake in the beginning of the game. He will LOOK like that! MGS4 will happen in different period of time confirmed by Kojima.

So basically, YOUNG SNAKE will appear in the beginning of the game, we will learn in the game that Solid Snake(YOUNG) is suffering from an aging problem(because he is a clone) and then years later the genetic disease's symptoms will be more remarkable and can be noticeable through OLD SNAKE character. Hint: His wrinkled face, white hair, spitting image of his old man etc...)

Hope this satisfies you.

Denji

i dont think that your right because in the trailor that was released on the PSN the masked character and old snake are in the same scene. how can they be in two places at once?

Okay let's get this thing straight once and for all: There are 2 MASKED men shown in the MGS4 trailers. There is the first one who was shown last year, seconds before revealing young snake. The one who grabs the statue. and The second masked man is the one in the E3 2007 trailer, the one who screamed "Johnathan" and was rumored to be Raiden. I was reffering to the first one! Okay thanks BYEBYE!

Again, don't quit your day job.

You need to get out of here ASAP!

OK Listen im going to tell you the Big twist of MGS4 leave if u dont want the story to be ruined. Also this may only make sense to Fans of METAL GEAR SOLID.

The Big Twist: Ok after playing MGS2 again and some research, i found out that The main character that you control in MGS4 (old man snake)... ISNT INFACT SNAKE... You are controlling a Main "bad guy" from MGS2: BIG BOSS,SOLIDUS SNAKE, George Sears however you wanna call him... But yes its him!! andI will show u the evidence.

Ok firstly i want you to watch this trailor: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnbf8GZgvXQ

At the video time of 5:45 (5 minutes and 45 seconds) you will notice that -apart from being **** on- You will see SNAKE.. but surprisingly young!?!? well thats it, this is the real snake. But he is no longer the main character, you will be using SOLIDUS. Not convinced yet? well check these pictures of SOLIDUS:

BEFORE EYEPATCH:http://games.tom.com/zhuanti/mgs2s/images/solidus03.jpg

AFTER EYEPATCH: http://www.metalgearsolid.org/admin/data/upimages/uploaded/solidussnake2.jpg

Can you see how he looks alot like the new Main character in MGS4?? well it may just be a coincidence? hmm well look at his eye patch.. its on HIS Left eye. Now hav a look at the Character you control in MGS4:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1115/mgs4oy9.jpg

HMM its on HIS Left eye!!! ok by now the idea of coincidence may aswell be thrown in the trash. Afterall this "Huge twist" ideais not a new thing to the METAL GEAR SOLID series.. jus one example is in MGS2... the president being a terrorist! lol..

Anyway i hope i have convinced you guys!!! sorry if i stopped you from jumping out of ur sofa so high that usmack ur head on the celing and then drop the controller on the floor as you grab ur head in pain only to find out that your little bro curiously picks up the controller and walks away with it.... and.... yea.

Andrew Brockman ( i hope HIDEO finds out i solved this twist so he hands over the role of story making to meee!!! James1029384756@hotmail.com) =)

aibsaibs

Yeah. That seems highly improbable and just ridiculous. Besides I think their are going to be a lot more secrets revealed in MGS4 than just who the character is.