MGS HD collection. anyone else slightly annoyed??

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#1 bezza2011
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Don't take it the wrong way i'm a massive MGS fan and i've loved every one i've played,
but i'm a little dissapointed that they brought out 2 and 3 and peacewalker, seriously where is the original game which debuted on the ps1!!!!
Number 2 was rubbish compared to that game and is my least favourite as i believe it's a complete carbon copy of the first just with different characters, it even state's in the game by solidous that his relationship to raiden and this whole part was modeled on the relationship between solid and big boss.

i was wondering if anyone else was slightly dissapointed that they didn't remake the orginial for this collection as that game was the starting point to an amazing franchise, yes i know they remade it for the GAMECUBE why o why did they do that i don't know but i think they let fans down with this collection without having that, not to say i don't love the collections games in all it's hd glory but still feel slightly pee'd, i mean seriously for the new gamers who played mgs4 surely it would of made sense to put mgs in the collection so they can relate to that game.

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#2 AdamPA1006
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I think they didnt put it in the collection because its on the PSN store. I have it but cant beat Liquid Hind :-(
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#3 bezza2011
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still think a hd release would of been great for people who had played it and young people who are into the more up to date graphics,

is liquid hind the one when he's in the jet and you have to use the stinger missiles, was a hard from if i remember correctly it was a lot of running about and timing

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I think they didnt put it in the collection because its on the PSN store. I have it but cant beat Liquid Hind :-(AdamPA1006

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I tried to enjoy the small bit of mgs4 i played, but couldnt because i havent played the first, 2, or 3rd. I also dont want to play an old "unrefined" if you will.

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#7 juden41
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You'd have to download it off PSN and create a PS1 memory card on your harddrive. I have MGS, and the HD Collection
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#8 metalgrinch
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I agree, I've always wondered why the original wasn't on there. Would be cool to see that redone in HD, and updated graphics to boot seeing as how MGS 2 and 3 were on the PS2 whereas the original on PS1. But I can see how it would be more profitable to leave it out so that people can download it on the PSN. I thought the same about the Silent Hill HD collection.

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""Obviously, we wanted to include it and make it a complete collection. However, as you know, Metal Gear Solid 1 was for the PSone. It has a very, very low polygon count," says Kojima Productions' creative producer."

I hope that answer your question as to why it isn't in the collection.

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#10 Chaos_Bladez
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Upscaling a PS1 game is significantly more work to the point of where they'd have to basically redo the entire game. Not worth it. Also, Silicon Knights (Nights?) did the Gamecube version so that just sounds like a legal mess dealing with patents and such. It makes sense to not have it. Besides, like an above poster said, it is on PSN ready to be played.
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#11 0Hamburgher
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I think it's spectacular Besides a couple features missing from MGS2 and 3, the inclusion of Peace Walker with an online mode make it worth buying just for PW itself
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#12 chaotzu
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1st off, I've played through MGS1 a million times, including Twin Snakes. Not only that, but the original is on PSN, and if you own the original discs they play in ALL PS3 disc drives with no problem. So unless they were going to redo the game completely like Twin Snakes on Playstation (not gonna happen) there was no need. If it means that much to you then you can probably buy a Gamecube AND Twin Snakes for $30 total.
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#13 scouttrooperbob
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I tried to enjoy the small bit of mgs4 i played, but couldnt because i havent played the first, 2, or 3rd. I also dont want to play an old "unrefined" if you will.

scouttrooperbob

Im a dumb A$$

just downloaded mgs1 and its a very well designed game considering its age. Gonna man through it, then play the hd collection (Peace walker after 4)

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I think they didnt put it in the collection because its on the PSN store. I have it but cant beat Liquid Hind :-(AdamPA1006

Try to remember the basics of CQC.

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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]I think they didnt put it in the collection because its on the PSN store. I have it but cant beat Liquid Hind :-(BT-445

Try to remember the basics of CQC.

hide in the corridor between the two buildings on the rooftop. Gives you cover.

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#16 Justforvisit
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""Obviously, we wanted to include it and make it a complete collection. However, as you know, Metal Gear Solid 1 was for the PSone. It has a very, very low polygon count," says Kojima Productions' creative producer."

I hope that answer your question as to why it isn't in the collection.

arsenal1111



Pointed out by many gaming mags and people from the industry already that this is a very, very, very, very, veeeeery lame excuse. As much respect as I have for Kojima's work on the MGS Saga, but this is just really cheap. Because Meta Gear, and Metal gear 2 which even use PIXELS instead of Polygons also found there way on the EU Disc version. Would'n't really have been a problem or trouble to just put MGS1 on the disc as is in my opinion as well.

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#17 PetJel
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[QUOTE="arsenal1111"]

""Obviously, we wanted to include it and make it a complete collection. However, as you know, Metal Gear Solid 1 was for the PSone. It has a very, very low polygon count," says Kojima Productions' creative producer."

I hope that answer your question as to why it isn't in the collection.

Justforvisit



Pointed out by many gaming mags and people from the industry already that this is a very, very, very, very, veeeeery lame excuse. As much respect as I have for Kojima's work on the MGS Saga, but this is just really cheap. Because Meta Gear, and Metal gear 2 which even use PIXELS instead of Polygons also found there way on the EU Disc version. Would'n't really have been a problem or trouble to just put MGS1 on the disc as is in my opinion as well.

I think he was referring to including MGS1 as a remake.