MGS4 let downs.......( they are alot for an AAAAE ) (major spoilers)

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#1 2mrw
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after 2 days of continous playing, i finished MGS4 and here is some of my thoughts:

1- the game is too short to be satisfying, act 3 for example is 3 parts.... the stealth part, the motorcycle part and finally the winged boss part.

2-although the plot is very good, well done, exciting and surprising, it is extremely complicated, at least for me...... the plot also needs an awareness of the previous chapters.

3-one major letdown was the music, the sound tracks are well done but i didn't get emotional at all, compared wz the MGS 1, MGS4 is very poor and pathetic in this aspect, and this was reflected on the death scenes of the characters, Noami, Eva, L. Osolot...etc death scenes were very poorly done, this is the 1st time i didn't feel very emotional wz the characers deathes, i used to get emotional wz even the bosses deaths i.e. sniper wolf in MGS1, fortune in MGS2.

4- some scenes were really stupid like meryl and akiba marriage proposal....etc.

the game overall gave me the best video game experience game i have ever had, but i was expecting more from the final chapter in this gr8 plot, the game weren't as emotional as the other games in the series, that was the major letdown for me.

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#2 Unknown_Hero3
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I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

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#3 jupiter1333
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4- some scenes were really stupid like meryl and akiba marriage proposal....etc.

This thread loses all credibility, that was a sick scene! Them rolling around, trading ammo, getting shot over and over but staying alive with the power of their love! :P :P :P

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#4 Legendaryscmt
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1. MGS4 actually took me longer to beat than the previous ones, and even the short parts are enjoyable.
2. I'm gonna have to agree with this. Unless you know the previous story, MGS4 won't make a whole lot of sense.
3. The music during the last boss fight alone shows that MGS4 had great music.
4. ...yeah, some of them were pretty stupid, but that's Kojima for ya. Least there were some good funny parts, and a lot of references to the older MGS fans.

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#5 Leon_Kennedy1
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I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

Unknown_Hero3
me too :?
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#6 Lab392
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I agree with about 80 percent of that.

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#7 Duckman5
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I actually agree with most of what you say. I think some of the cutscenes were just way too long like the introduction to Drebin. Seriously, he sells laundered guns and has a monkey, that's all we need to know!
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#8 gunslinger_boy
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[QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

Leon_Kennedy1

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#9 mitu123
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To me, the biggest let down was the graphics, they're great but overhyped, the character models are stunning but some of the environments don't look that great, like in the 2nd act.

Also, it's not in HD, only sub HD, though it has AA, so I don't mind.:P

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#10 Merc009
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ummm, the only way this game could be short is if you play it like a third person shooter which ISNT THE WAY YOU"RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY IT !

it took me 20hrs to beat, the only time i touched a gun was with the bosses, I forgot about drebin's shop altogether

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#11 Prince-Noctis
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I'm about 50/50 on this, brilliant game, wasn't perfect though.

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#12 supa_badman
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lol ya, I hated Akiba too.

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#13 sa10kun
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I actually agree with most of what you say. I think some of the cutscenes were just way too long like the introduction to Drebin. Seriously, he sells laundered guns and has a monkey, that's all we need to know!Duckman5

I think mgs4 kinda suffered from the same thing advent children did. It was very long winded cause it was made to be a huge bit of fanservice. I loved both but have to admit they could have used alot of trimming. I didn't really care much for drebin either. Instead of his little emotionless rambling about the bnb squad I would rather have them do flashbacks from the girls' point of view. I mean it would be way more emotional that way instead of his monotone voice going "this is so sad. She kept laughing. sad sad sad."

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#14 PSP107
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way too short i 100% agree. What ur thoughts on the online mode TC?
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#15 Chaos_Bladez
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Good for you. This whole thing of announcing that you don't like a popular game on the forums is pretty old and dumb.
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#16 Perjury
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I enjoyed all 3 houra of gameplay and 6 hours of movie. I got a lot of enjoyment out of MGO till I learned about all the glitching and lagers

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#17 NatoKenichi
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I disagree with all of those points. :/

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#18 pyromaniac223
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I agree with the first one, more gameplay would have been very welcome. I thought the plot was terrible, but I didn't really care. The music was great. One of my favorite soundtracks. I also don't care about the stupid scenes. Just skipped them. It's not the best game I've played, but it really is a great one. The gameplay more than made up for the story.
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#19 -shmelo-
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It is too short. It is over complicated for it's own good. I thought the music was good. The cut scenes were far too long, and yea the marriage proposal scene was bloody stupid. I actually thought for the most part the cut scenes were cinematic and great like the fight scenes. I know, there was not enough basic stealth potions like Acts 1,2, and 3. I didn't like 4 and 5 that much. It could have used some filler material for another solid stealthy act, extend 1,2, and 3. Still one of the best games I've played in years.
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#20 DaSaint93
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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - its an awesome game just I think it ant as good a mgs 2 my favourite mgs I played mgs 3 and it was ok but there weren't any dog tags and that's what I loved about mgs 2 the dog tag system which unlocked stuff which was awesome but mgs 4 it was good the storyline and graphics where amazing but what was with the cutscenes hours and hours i finished it in one day but what the hell was with the online play was that g*y or what it was terrible.
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#21 funsohng
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it was great, but not as awesome as MGS3. that's what I would say.
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#22 Furi-Kun
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[QUOTE="Leon_Kennedy1"][QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

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Me sixth.:?

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#23 Chaos_Bladez
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[QUOTE="gunslinger_boy"]

[QUOTE="Leon_Kennedy1"] me too :?Furi-Kun

me three:?

Me sixth.:?

I'm not calling you out, just curious, what made Haze so good to you? And what made MGS4 suck to you? :)
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#24 adizorz
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well in act 3 there were going to have an escort mission with big mama through the sewers but they thought people would hate that.

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#25 sa10kun
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well in act 3 there were going to have an escort mission with big mama through the sewers but they thought people would hate that.

adizorz

I'd escort big mama anyday. Meow. Haha.

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#26 NuKkU
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[QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

Leon_Kennedy1

me too :?

me three

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#27 Chaos_Bladez
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[QUOTE="adizorz"]

well in act 3 there were going to have an escort mission with big mama through the sewers but they thought people would hate that.

sa10kun

I'd escort big mama anyday. Meow. Haha.

MGS3 or MGS4? :o
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#28 robmonga2
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I agree with most of that except the music comment. But I hate you now.
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#29 Twister_69
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wat??? graphics wer amazin

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#30 ps3wizard45
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I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

Unknown_Hero3

I'd agree with this staement...

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#31 mitu123
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wat??? graphics wer amazin

Twister_69

Character and weapon models along with other graphical effects, yes, the environments, well, the textures could use some work and not all of them were amazing looking.

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#32 blank33
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I'm not sure why you gave it a 10.0 and are complaining about several aspects of the game. :?

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#33 Furi-Kun
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[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

[QUOTE="gunslinger_boy"]

me three:?

Chaos_Bladez

Me sixth.:?

I'm not calling you out, just curious, what made Haze so good to you? And what made MGS4 suck to you? :)

Because it's my opinion of the game, not others. MGS4 sucks for the same reason.

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#34 Javieralijandro
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I knew it hasnt HD, also it had some lame cut scenes like cooking eggs, that was pointless. I also hate how the online is made. First you need a Psn id then a konami ID then a mgo account wtf.... was a good game but way to hyped
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#35 2mrw
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since you mention it, the game has medicore textures..........regarding the music, i said it is ok, but when compared wz the other games in the series, itsweaknesses arise (in MGS 1 i like the ending music alot, that i listened to it thousands of times,the combination of a death scene wz a good music in MGS 1 was fantastic, BUT in MGS4 every time a character would die, they just shut all the music down, having 1 or 2 cutscenes wz good sound tracks doesn't mean the overall music is good...........i didn't play MGS online yet...........i dun think MGS4 is as long as MGS3, the game isn't long enough.

again the biggest letdown for me was that i didn't care for the death of any character bacause of the non existant music and the somehow stupid scenes.

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#36 sa10kun
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="adizorz"]

well in act 3 there were going to have an escort mission with big mama through the sewers but they thought people would hate that.

Chaos_Bladez

I'd escort big mama anyday. Meow. Haha.

MGS3 or MGS4? :o

Both. Talk about gilf.

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#37 ColdfireTrilogy
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This game has many campy/cheezey parts ... its a MGS game and Kojima likes to add those little things in.Like the part about changing the Disc ... i mean really you gotta just take some of it as amusement.And its been in there since mgs1, stupid funny parts that is.I personally thought the proposal scene while kinda corney ... it was pretty BA as well.

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#38 kingdre
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I don't agree with any of that. :|

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#39 Javieralijandro
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I don't agree with any of that. :|

kingdre
you don'y agree the cooking egg cut scene was pointless?
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#40 M0wen10
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I disagree with some of those points, but overall I thought that MGS4 was great. But no way near 10/10

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#41 Filthybastrd
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after 2 days of continous playing, i finished MGS4 and here is some of my thoughts:

1- the game is too short to be satisfying, act 3 for example is 3 parts.... the stealth part, the motorcycle part and finally the winged boss part.

2-although the plot is very good, well done, exciting and surprising, it is extremely complicated, at least for me...... the plot also needs an awareness of the previous chapters.

3-one major letdown was the music, the sound tracks are well done but i didn't get emotional at all, compared wz the MGS 1, MGS4 is very poor and pathetic in this aspect, and this was reflected on the death scenes of the characters, Noami, Eva, L. Osolot...etc death scenes were very poorly done, this is the 1st time i didn't feel very emotional wz the characers deathes, i used to get emotional wz even the bosses deaths i.e. sniper wolf in MGS1, fortune in MGS2.

4- some scenes were really stupid like meryl and akiba marriage proposal....etc.

the game overall gave me the best video game experience game i have ever had, but i was expecting more from the final chapter in this gr8 plot, the game weren't as emotional as the other games in the series, that was the major letdown for me.

2mrw

I'm impressed that it managed to be so good despite these flaws.

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#42 mitu123
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since you mention it, the game has medicore textures2mrw

I wouldn't say that, they're awesome but some are ok, but that's just me.

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#43 shabab12
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the answer is no
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#45 shhbob
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[QUOTE="Leon_Kennedy1"][QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

I disagree with about 90% of this...:?

gunslinger_boy

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me three:?

me four :?

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#46 Tlahui
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I for one was dissapointed with a lot of thing in the story, but I realize that was the only way to go. Also, I didnt like the presentation of the story, it was too much so it felt like jot notes, not fleshed out enough. And the stealth aspects of this game plae in comparison of MGS3. I am sorry, but its true. It even felt a little dumb down.
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#47 WR_Platinum
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Its been pas a year and you guys are still talking about MGS4? WOW.

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#48 mitu123
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Its been pas a year and you guys are still talking about MGS4? WOW.

WR_Platinum
Yeah, it's such an amazing game, isn't it?
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#49 WR_Platinum
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Its been pas a year and you guys are still talking about MGS4? WOW.

mitu123

Yeah, it's such an amazing game, isn't it?

Of course it is, it's a masterpiece.

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#50 Ninja_Zombie83
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MGS4 was/is one of the best gaming experiences I have ever had. I disagree with 95% of the OP. The only thing I was dissapointed in was a lack of trophies to help its replay value and the online multiplayer.