Mgs5 Solid Snake Revival? How? Ask Naomi

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#1 kazuya_m
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Some spoiler ahead.

First of all, the thread question, is Solid going to be the playable character in Mgs5, even if it is a sequel to 4? And of course, lets asume Ol Snake is too old then.

Answer, when Solid met Naomi in 4 she did some scans on his Dna, can't remember what exactly, but there was that one single scene, showing Naomis monitor with 'copying Solid Snake'. More over, in that lab was a grown up size incubator. (or a solarium). So we will get another clone, a 1:1 clone from Solid.

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#2 Justforvisit
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It will all be explained in MGS5

In a 20 hour long cutscene :D Wich also will handle the topics of marketing, vampires, car commercials and a pink elephant on a wirerope

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#3 clr84651
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It has to be something other than Old Snake, so probably a clone or some kind of cure that he gets to make him healthy, alive, and younger again.

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If the story is about Solid Snake it has to be before MGS4. It could be between MGS2 and MGS4 or maybe even remakes of the first two Metal Gears.
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#5 Swift_Boss_A
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If my memory serves me right in MGS3 when you 'fight' the Sorrow he says to Naked Snake something about his sons sons. I guess that means that Solid Snake has a child or maybe gets cloned? That ties into what Naomi does. Seems Kojima is giving somewhat subtle hints about cloning Solid Snake to continue the series. If this is true I don't want any part of MGS games from now on.

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#6 scorpoinz
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is it true? is mgs5 is coming? i heard that it will ended with mgs4 it will be great
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#7 01_855403
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If my memory serves me right in MGS3 when you 'fight' the Sorrow he says to Naked Snake something about his sons sons. I guess that means that Solid Snake has a child or maybe gets cloned? That ties into what Naomi does. Seems Kojima is giving somewhat subtle hints about cloning Solid Snake to continue the series. If this is true I don't want any part of MGS games from now on.

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That is weird! Why? It is Kojima behind the story, so expect some awesome twists, not your average generic shooter storyline.
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#8 anime_gamer007
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If my memory serves me right in MGS3 when you 'fight' the Sorrow he says to Naked Snake something about his sons sons. I guess that means that Solid Snake has a child or maybe gets cloned? That ties into what Naomi does. Seems Kojima is giving somewhat subtle hints about cloning Solid Snake to continue the series. If this is true I don't want any part of MGS games from now on.

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Well, the Sorrow was a medium, not a fortune teller so I'd take that with a grain of salt :P
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#9 Swift_Boss_A
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That is weird! Why? It is Kojima behind the story, so expect some awesome twists, not your average generic shooter storyline.01_855403

I rather Kojima put his talent behind creating a brand new franchise. The idea of Solid Snake's children is just dumb and basically repeating the Les Enfants Terribles storyline. It would essentially be a reboot of the franchise and that's just awful, waste of Kojima's talent.

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it was explained that none of Big Boss's clones could have children or be cloned again, so if they wanted a new Solid Snake, they'd have to create him from Big Boss like they did with the first. plus, a clone would have to spend years growing up and being trained (his accelerated aging didn't start until after the Big Shell incident). Finally, he just wouldn't be the same person; it wouldn't be the Solid Snake that defeated Big Boss, infiltrated Shadow Moses and killed Liquid, went through the Tanker and Big Shell incident, brought an end to Guns of the Patriots, and put Liquid Ocelot to rest. It would just be someone that looked like him.

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If the story is about Solid Snake it has to be before MGS4. It could be between MGS2 and MGS4 or maybe even remakes of the first two Metal Gears.anime_gamer007

I am hoping for the later, actually. I would love him to remake MG and MG2. He could combine them into one game.

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#12 branketra
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Just because he's alive in the game doesn't mean he will be playable. The clone theory is interesting, but I'm guessing either a prequel or another main character altogether.
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[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"]If the story is about Solid Snake it has to be before MGS4. It could be between MGS2 and MGS4 or maybe even remakes of the first two Metal Gears.doolindesperado

I am hoping for the later, actually. I would love him to remake MG and MG2. He could combine them into one game.

Yeah, I would love that so much because those game's stories are referenced heavily in the later games but are kinda difficult to play for someone going back to them today.
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#14 Venom_Raptor
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I think it'll end up being a prequel, but all will be explained in time.

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Watch them do the Raiden skull and spine removal thing on Snake.
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#16 bezza2011
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solid snake never defeated big boss, as he only glimpsed big boss at shadow mosses, there can be a clone made due to big boss still being alive, plus technolgy is far great now than it was then and nioami will sure be able to sort it with otacon. it can work, and how ever he does it, it will as normal, i'm hoping they change the controls to a more fluid way of moving,.

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solid snake never defeated big boss, as he only glimpsed big boss at shadow mosses, there can be a clone made due to big boss still being alive, plus technolgy is far great now than it was then and nioami will sure be able to sort it with otacon. it can work, and how ever he does it, it will as normal, i'm hoping they change the controls to a more fluid way of moving,.

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(don't click if never finished MGS4)

Umm... Big Boss [spoiler] died at the end [/spoiler] of MGS4

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im guessing that since they have the technology to age him then they can have the technology to make him younger. I just want to play as the solid snake from mgs1 and mgs2. this is the only series that i keep coming back to because its so f'ing awesome.
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#19 01_855403
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[QUOTE="01_855403"] That is weird! Why? It is Kojima behind the story, so expect some awesome twists, not your average generic shooter storyline.Swift_Boss_A

I rather Kojima put his talent behind creating a brand new franchise. The idea of Solid Snake's children is just dumb and basically repeating the Les Enfants Terribles storyline. It would essentially be a reboot of the franchise and that's just awful, waste of Kojima's talent.

Still! lets think beyond cloning Solid Snake, i mean what would Kojima do for cut scenes running for about 30 minutes? Of course something fresh to look at even if it was kind of a reboot. My point is not to judge the somehow unconfirmed game now.
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#20 Heavenly_King
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Debrin injected something that fixes his disease.

As you can see in the new MGS game in which you are Big Boss, there are images of kid and a Dog, I bet the kid is Debrin and he met BigBoss back then, so he is loyal to him and not the patriots. And that explains why he injected the cure in MGS4.

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#21 Heavenly_King
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Some spoiler ahead.

First of all, the thread question, is Solid going to be the playable character in Mgs5, even if it is a sequel to 4? And of course, lets asume Ol Snake is too old then.

Answer, when Solid met Naomi in 4 she did some scans on his Dna, can't remember what exactly, but there was that one single scene, showing Naomis monitor with 'copying Solid Snake'. More over, in that lab was a grown up size incubator. (or a solarium). So we will get another clone, a 1:1 clone from Solid.

kazuya_m

It wont be a clone.

My theory is that Debrin injected him something that fixes his disease.

As you can see in the new MGS game in which you are Big Boss, there are images of kid and a Dog, I bet the kid is Debrin and he met BigBoss back then, so he is loyal to him and not the patriots. And that explains why he injected the cure in MGS4, and that is why BigBoss said Snake to LIVE!!!!

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Obviously in this MGS game you wont be snake but BigBoss as you can see

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im guessing that since they have the technology to age him then they can have the technology to make him younger. I just want to play as the solid snake from mgs1 and mgs2. this is the only series that i keep coming back to because its so f'ing awesome.needweed

no, his accelerated aging is part of his DNA. he was designed to have a shortened life-span, you can't just re-write that to make him age backwards.

(unless nanomachines are involved, of course :P)

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[QUOTE="needweed"]im guessing that since they have the technology to age him then they can have the technology to make him younger. I just want to play as the solid snake from mgs1 and mgs2. this is the only series that i keep coming back to because its so f'ing awesome.Sword-Demon

no, his accelerated aging is part of his DNA. he was designed to have a shortened life-span, you can't just re-write that to make him age backwards.

(unless nanomachines are involved, of course :P)

And Debrin in MGS4 might have fixed that.

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#24 kkee
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I think it'll be set in the late 1970s, starting Big Boss, with Naomi Hunter and Frank Jaegar appearing during the Rhodesian Civil War, which would be an ideal place for Kojima's open world game. There'll probably be some story with Solid Snake (hence his appearance) growing up, and the possibility of The Patriots/Zero starting an all out war against Big Boss.

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#25 Denji
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I thought it was explained clearly that the DNA code was to access the SOP systems and the AIs?

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#26 tagzskie
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I assume that in this sequel we can play a prequel at least 1 chapter.. I remember the trailer of MGS4 that we can see young snake! and BAM thats only a camo... Its kojima were talking about here, that genius is unpredictable.. I like the idea that theres a prequel and sequel, that never done in mgs series (just like uncharted 3, young nathan drake)

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

[QUOTE="needweed"]im guessing that since they have the technology to age him then they can have the technology to make him younger. I just want to play as the solid snake from mgs1 and mgs2. this is the only series that i keep coming back to because its so f'ing awesome.Heavenly_King

no, his accelerated aging is part of his DNA. he was designed to have a shortened life-span, you can't just re-write that to make him age backwards.

(unless nanomachines are involved, of course :P)

And Debrin in MGS4 might have fixed that.

I don't think so.

Naomi analyzed Snakes DNAafter drebin injected him, and that's when she learned about the accelerated aging being apart of his DNA, as well as the new foxdie strain. I think she would have noticed if his DNA was being rewritten.

The new foxdie strain killed all of the people who could threaten SOP (Big Boss and Ocelot in particular), the Patriots had no reason to bring Snake back. If anything they would want him gone now, as he's a liability to their plans.

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#28 Heavenly_King
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[QUOTE="Heavenly_King"]

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

no, his accelerated aging is part of his DNA. he was designed to have a shortened life-span, you can't just re-write that to make him age backwards.

(unless nanomachines are involved, of course :P)

Sword-Demon

And Debrin in MGS4 might have fixed that.

I don't think so.

Naomi analyzed Snakes DNAafter drebin injected him, and that's when she learned about the accelerated aging being apart of his DNA, as well as the new foxdie strain. I think she would have noticed if his DNA was being rewritten.

The new foxdie strain killed all of the people who could threaten SOP (Big Boss and Ocelot in particular), the Patriots had no reason to bring Snake back. If anything they would want him gone now, as he's a liability to their plans.

I think Debrin is loyal to Bigboss and not to the patriots. If you see the pic I have posted in a previous post (lol) you can see a kid, and I bet he is debrin. He will meet Bigboss in that game and maybe Bigboss will save him from something/someone and that is why Debrin is loyal to him and not the whole organization, just like Ocelot.

Also the thing Debrin injected him could be triggered to be active at a later time, who knows. If Kojima wants to "fix" Snake there is always a way to do it.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

[QUOTE="Heavenly_King"]

And Debrin in MGS4 might have fixed that.

Heavenly_King

I don't think so.

Naomi analyzed Snakes DNAafter drebin injected him, and that's when she learned about the accelerated aging being apart of his DNA, as well as the new foxdie strain. I think she would have noticed if his DNA was being rewritten.

The new foxdie strain killed all of the people who could threaten SOP (Big Boss and Ocelot in particular), the Patriots had no reason to bring Snake back. If anything they would want him gone now, as he's a liability to their plans.

I think Debrin is loyal to Bigboss and not to the patriots. If you see the pic I have posted in a previous post (lol) you can see a kid, and I bet he is debrin. He will meet Bigboss in that game and maybe Bigboss will save him from something/someone and that is why Debrin is loyal to him and not the whole organization, just like Ocelot.

Also the thing Debrin injected him could be triggered to be active at a later time, who knows. If Kojima wants to "fix" Snake there is always a way to do it.

Well that begs the question of why Big Boss would want to save Snake.. they weren't exactly best friends. And Big Boss also told Snake that the world doesn't need snakes anymore, so why would he bring one back?
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#30 SPYDER0416
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It could be a clone, but I'm hoping for a prequel set in WWII starring The Boss.

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#31 Joshuamainman
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if you listen clearly naomi says that in mgs4 when snake asks how long do i have she says half a year then when snake tries to smoke she says i wasnt talking about your life span and said that foxdie will start to affect numourous people in which snake asks in half a year and she says no 3 months but the new foxdie that drebin implanted into snake killed off the old completely so that just leaves one question what was naomi talking about when she said six months i have 3 theroes. 1.Its like he said naomi copied his genes which i dought considering the complication and how he cant reproduce even if wished to. 2.its when snake will slowly start to loose his ability to walk move and eventually die from accelerated aging. 3.its when snake will stop aging and possibly because of the foxdie be given the chance to live a little bit longer. this is my faviorate and my most believable therory considering how kojima has said he is not yet finished will snakes tale even though he wanted to let him die at the end of guns of the patriots.
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Debrin injected something that fixes his disease.

As you can see in the new MGS game in which you are Big Boss, there are images of kid and a Dog, I bet the kid is Debrin and he met BigBoss back then, so he is loyal to him and not the patriots. And that explains why he injected the cure in MGS4.

Heavenly_King

which new mgs game are you talking about?

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#33 polarbearsandcr
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It will probably be a WWII era game.