MGS5 without solid snake=== Flop

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#1 jaidev004
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Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

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#2 NaughtyRag
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as long as the gameplay is good, i could care less who i play as..

so no, the lack of snake doesn't not make the game an automatic flop..

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#3 THQ88
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Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

jaidev004

you mean MGS5 without a Snake will flop. Solid Snake was not in MGS3 and yet MGS3 is one of the best games of all times. And no not necessarily, even if Snake is not in the game, Kojima will manage to make another masterpiece somehow. By the way, he might not be playable but this doesn't mean we're not going to see him or hear of him at least. He is the hero of the 20 years old franchise.

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#4 deactivated-58319077a6477
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I still think they should introduce a new character in the next game and leave the past characters alone or give them small parts in it.I have said this before but they need to make it unrelated to the previous games which will be hard to do if they decide to put Raiden as the main character, new comers will keep asking the usual question as why is he a ninja and stuff like that.
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#5 coughlanio
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Well MGS3 didn't have Solid Snake...
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#6 deactivated-58319077a6477
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Well MGS3 didn't have Solid Snake...havokmaster
True but it had a Snake.
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#7 rogerjak
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MGS3 had the original skane which is even better than some lameoid clones :P

MGS5 without ANY SNAKE will be a bit flopish (a 9 instead of a 10 :P)

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#8 SillySkeleton
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While Snake would be a great loss to the series, MGS5 without him would still probably be one of the best gamesavaliablewhen it came out.

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#9 ___gamemaster__
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MGS2 stars as raiden not snake and yet id didnt flop.. well i agree with you though, snake not in MGS5 is lacking something

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#10 Trx07
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yes snake in MGS 5 will flop, how ever, no snake in the next MG wont flop so what i did there
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#11 jaidev004
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will MGS be like the terminator series without arnold?

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#12 Renjinrezo
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MGS5 = Metal Gear Solid 5

If there were no snake, it would be Metal Gear + something else. Also I liked Raiden in MGS2, he wasn't strong but tried hard to imitate snake. So, I think flopping wouldn't be an issue.

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Meet, Python..
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#14 BlackLaser555
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People should understand this. The Solid in Metal Gear Solid doesn't refer to Solid Snake....they added the Solid becasue it's in 3D now or something like that. But i don't know...i don't want an another MGS without snake...
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#15 deactivated-58319077a6477
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MGS5 = Metal Gear Solid 5

If there were no snake, it would be Metal Gear + something else. Also I liked Raiden in MGS2, he wasn't strong but tried hard to imitate snake. So, I think flopping wouldn't be an issue.

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The Solid in title doesn't relate to Snake whatsoever.
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Metal Gear Solid 5: Otacos Revenge. We play the game as otacon, gameplay consists on: Crying and f**ing your stepmother :D hope i dont get ban for this, i m just trying to be funny :(
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#17 SillySkeleton
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People should understand this. The Solid in Metal Gear Solid doesn't refer to Solid Snake....they added the Solid becasue it's in 3D now or something like that. But i don't know...i don't want an another MGS without snake...BlackLaser555

Well, that may be 1/2 the reason, but it's no coincidence that the title shares the codename of the lead character. I doubt it would have been named Metal Gear 'Solid' if there was no Solid Snake.

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#18 BlackLaser555
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Metal Gear Solid 5: Otacos Revenge. We play the game as otacon, gameplay consists on: Crying and f**ing your stepmother :D hope i dont get ban for this, i m just trying to be funny :(

And you failed at it.
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#19 kingdre
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MGS without a Snake at all would flop. Technically Solid Snake only appeared in two games: MGS and MGS2 (and even then he was only playable at the start). MGS3 had Big Boss while MGS4 had Old Snake (I know it's the same guy but they did change his name). :P

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#20 dmc_freak978
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I doubt it, its still MGS, that alone is great!
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#21 BigBoss712
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I want a fresh new start for the series tbh but yes snake will be missed.
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#22 taplok
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Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

jaidev004
i don't even think there will be an MGS gae without Snake on it... maybe a MG game with a new lead... and its success will depend on how Master Kojima will make it... how many people have really been into Snake before MGS1? i mean, Snake is not as famous during the early releases of the game... also, a lot of people think that Raiden was kinda lame in MGS2, who suddenly became a lot cooler in MGS4... it all depends to Mr. Hideo Kojima!
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#23 Renjinrezo
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[QUOTE="Renjinrezo"]

MGS5 = Metal Gear Solid 5

If there were no snake, it would be Metal Gear + something else. Also I liked Raiden in MGS2, he wasn't strong but tried hard to imitate snake. So, I think flopping wouldn't be an issue.

Star650

The Solid in title doesn't relate to Snake whatsoever.

It does to a degree, but that's not the point that I was trying to make. The solid saga is the most important part of snake's adventure and probably the end. My point was that placing "solid" in the title would be relating to snakein some way or form, hence why I said another Metal Gear would only place connections to events of previous games (just like MGS did with MG).

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#24 ANIALATOR136
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[QUOTE="THQ88"]

[QUOTE="jaidev004"]

Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

you mean MGS5 without a Snake will flop. Solid Snake was not in MGS3 and yet MGS3 is one of the best games of all times. And no not necessarily, even if Snake is not in the game, Kojima will manage to make another masterpiece somehow. By the way, he might not be playable but this doesn't mean we're not going to see him or hear of him at least. He is the hero of the 20 years old franchise.

You need to remember that "Snake" was just another game character who climbed the ladder of cool and appeal. He built his reputation over 20 years. Kojima could make another character we could all bow down to in the next 5-10 years. You'll see. You will remember this historic post! :)
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#25 Mist00
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no cause the game-play will be similar to mgs4, unless they do something totally different which i doubt furthermore since its a metal gear game itll probably have all the crazy storyline twist. the only thing that will be different is the skin on the character u play and kojima might even give u solid snake's skin just to play as him so for me it definitely wont be a flop

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#26 LoserMike
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I hope Kojima does something other than MGS. Give the guy a break, he wants to do other stuff. Let him do the other projects he wants to do. Damn the nerds who threaten his life because he said he wasn't going to direct MGS4.

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[QUOTE="taplok"][QUOTE="jaidev004"]

Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

i don't even think there will be an MGS gae without Snake on it... maybe a MG game with a new lead... and its success will depend on how Master Kojima will make it... how many people have really been into Snake before MGS1? i mean, Snake is not as famous during the early releases of the game... also, a lot of people think that Raiden was kinda lame in MGS2, who suddenly became a lot cooler in MGS4... it all depends to Mr. Hideo Kojima!

Totally agree. If they could make an idiot like Johnny actually look cool by the end of MGS4 then they can make you like whoever they throw in the game. It all just depends on how BA they are. Either way, I don't think MGS will flop without Solid Snake. He'll be sadly missed, but I know his time has passed. And I'm sure Kojima will throw him in there in some form or another. You can count on it. Maybe he'll take Cambel's role as your mission contact? Maybe, if its a prequel, you'll come across him in the battlefield like in MGS2? There's no telling. But I assure you a game without Solid Snake will not be a flop. Because with or without Solid Snake its still Metal Gear! ;)
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mgs 3 says hello?
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#29 Keir21
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There best not be another Snake. Defeats the whole purpose of Big Boss saying "the world would be better off without snakes." Respect the mans dying words!
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#30 MarcRecon
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I doubt it, its still MGS, that alone is great!dmc_freak978

Agreed....as long as the gameplay is solid, it would be nice to see the franchise go in new direction.

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#31 MarcRecon
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I hope Kojima does something other than MGS. Give the guy a break, he wants to do other stuff. Let him do the other projects he wants to do. Damn the nerds who threaten his life because he said he wasn't going to direct MGS4.

LoserMike

It's not him bro, it's the greedy bastards he works for.

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#32 THQ88
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MGS5 = Metal Gear Solid 5

If there were no snake, it would be Metal Gear + something else. Also I liked Raiden in MGS2, he wasn't strong but tried hard to imitate snake. So, I think flopping wouldn't be an issue.

Renjinrezo

SOLID in MGS means 3D and not the protagonist. MGS3 had SOLID in its title name but did not feature "Solid" Snake. ;)

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#33 Renjinrezo
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[QUOTE="Renjinrezo"]

MGS5 = Metal Gear Solid 5

If there were no snake, it would be Metal Gear + something else. Also I liked Raiden in MGS2, he wasn't strong but tried hard to imitate snake. So, I think flopping wouldn't be an issue.

THQ88

SOLID in MGS means 3D and not the protagonist. MGS3 had SOLID in its title name but did not feature "Solid" Snake. ;)

Yes I know that. And MGS3 did in fact relate to solid snake (indirectly).

It's possible that a MGS5 game may appear, but without relations to solid snake, it would just be metal gear game without a symbol.

Overall it all depends on Kojima, whether he chooses to integrate "snake" or not.

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#34 Adziboy
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Oh god I can't believe the first thing I thought of when reading this title was: Old man = floppy.
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#35 tryfe_lyn
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i wouldn't say it would be a flop...just different...but u played the majority of mgs2 as somebody else and it wasn't a flop...

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#36 wizdom
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Will mgs5 be a flop without solid snake:)))

jaidev004
Hard to say, there will be a outcry though if it didn't have him in it.