MW2 online Fails because of Campers?

To me the game needs patching lol. I mean I like the game but come on... there is an increased amount of camping in this game that is FAR beyond that of COD4 or W@W.

1.) 1-25 KILLSTREAK AWARDS.

IW messed the game up by putting these in here. I miss the days of COD4 and W@W now. MW2 with Magical boxes falling out the sky all kinds of different little trinkets for people to camp hoping they can get. A nuke that ends the game no matter what? An AC130 and Helicopter that has flares that pop out on it's own without you even having to do anything to defend it yourself? Several other of these trinkets. It encourages campers to camp.

2.) THE CURRENT MAPS.

Plenty of these maps look like they were built in order to help campers. I've never seen so many camping spots in a COD game. It's sad. It's like they are saying look you can camp here here here and here. Terrible. I actually started private matches with just me on the map just walking through looking at all the freaking spots to hide and just camp SOOOOO MANY.

3.) WEAPON ATTACHMENTS.

Don't get me wrong there have been improvements since COD 4. But that Thermal Sight, and Heartbeat Sensor are TOYS FOR NOOBS. Any other players have to give up 2 perks just to combat these idiots... Ninja Pro and Cold Blooded Pro just to make things a little more fair.

4.) PERKS.

The "Super Solider". What is a Super Solider? I know you have seen one... probably some of you have been one. Somebody that uses perks Marathon Pro (Or Sight of Hand Pro), Lightweight Pro, and Commando Pro and either are running around with akimbo Model 1887 Shotguns (which has way too much range and accuracy to be a shotgun especially holding one in each hand) or a pistol with a tactical knife for fast stabbing... FREAKING SOLDIERS ON SPEED... can't be stopped and it's horrible. it's almost like a freaking cheat or something.I'm no noob... I like COD but to me it seems that MW2 left a sour taste in my mouth from all of the camping, care packages and turbo soldiers running around.

the cod games have always had a camping problem, ever since cod1 on pc. but yea, its just ridiculous now in mw2. its why i already stopped playing it, whereas mw1 captured my attention for about a year

imo, mw2's campaign > mw1's

but mw1 mp > then mw2's

which is sad, cause mw2 just includes so much content but a lot of it is very poorly balanced

Eh, I can deal with all the things you listed for the most part, but I believe those very same things is why I'm more bored with the game than anything.

the cod games have always had a camping problem, ever since cod1 on pc. but yea, its just ridiculous now in mw2. its why i already stopped playing it, whereas mw1 captured my attention for about a year

imo, mw2's campaign > mw1's

but mw1 mp > then mw2's

which is sad, cause mw2 just includes so much content but a lot of it is very poorly balanced

REforever101

As another reason why I didn't go near MW2. Not because of "campers". (If you can't handle campers, then you can't complain imo) But because of that "Super Soldier" crap, which I knew was going to happen.

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

jerkface96

I can see being a little furstrated if it's "one kill per match". But it's all respawn FFS:lol:

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

jerkface96

Killcam doesn't matter that much this time around. You got the campers with lightweight and marathon plus ninja pro or something like scramble pro... they run to one side sit and camp with akimbo shotguns lol... run out of the building camp and run back in... stay behind some metal drums and move to the other side... just hoping someone will walk in so they can get them and move to another spot. It's not about being good enough LOL. How can you shoot what you can't catch lol? People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

I also do agree with you on the Whole Super Soldier part, They did patch the Shotguns but theyre still cheap.

AND BY FAR the Commando perk is easily the cheapest perk ever, so youre telling me that i can unload 5 shots into a guys chest, but he still has a chance to lunge at me with a knife and Kill me and Live???

Theres also problems with the knifing, i swear its happened a few times, where ill stab them and the kill doesnt register, and then they kill me, or ill stab them first but they somehow get me..

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alot of the things you mentioned are quite annoying but i have solved the camper problem long ago.........just carry a stinger launcher pal i promise it spoils the campers plans to obtain chopper gunner then nuke....the stinger launcher holds 2 missles and i only takes one to destroy anything......ANYTHING....yes they might send out flares but thats where the second missles comes in......if you need a player on your team to help you hunt out campers send me an invite PURE_SKILLZ101BeyondDestiny

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

kenken2g

Killcam doesn't matter that much this time around. You got the campers with lightweight and marathon plus ninja pro or something like scramble pro... they run to one side sit and camp with akimbo shotguns lol... run out of the building camp and run back in... stay behind some metal drums and move to the other side... just hoping someone will walk in so they can get them and move to another spot. It's not about being good enough LOL. How can you shoot what you can't catch lol? People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

[QUOTE="kenken2g"]

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

jerkface96

Killcam doesn't matter that much this time around. You got the campers with lightweight and marathon plus ninja pro or something like scramble pro... they run to one side sit and camp with akimbo shotguns lol... run out of the building camp and run back in... stay behind some metal drums and move to the other side... just hoping someone will walk in so they can get them and move to another spot. It's not about being good enough LOL. How can you shoot what you can't catch lol? People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

I do too... it's just annoying. WAY more than COD4 or W@W. I also agree with you about the knifing. Man Commando Pro is just cheap. Guy just glides and knifes you even if you're shooting at him.... come on IW. Oh and lets not forget about the turret guns... OH BOY. You can shoot at them, throw nades at them. Takes forever to stop them. BUT BUT BUT BUT you run up to them with a knife and swipe them.... and it's done. WTF?

[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="kenken2g"]

Killcam doesn't matter that much this time around. You got the campers with lightweight and marathon plus ninja pro or something like scramble pro... they run to one side sit and camp with akimbo shotguns lol... run out of the building camp and run back in... stay behind some metal drums and move to the other side... just hoping someone will walk in so they can get them and move to another spot. It's not about being good enough LOL. How can you shoot what you can't catch lol? People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

kenken2g

I do too... it's just annoying. WAY more than COD4 or W@W. I also agree with you about the knifing. Man Commando Pro is just cheap. Guy just glides and knifes you even if you're shooting at him.... come on IW. Oh and lets not forget about the turret guns... OH BOY. You can shoot at them, throw nades at them. Takes forever to stop them. BUT BUT BUT BUT you run up to them with a knife and swipe them.... and it's done. WTF?

I also do agree with you on the Whole Super Soldier part, They did patch the Shotguns but theyre still cheap.

AND BY FAR the Commando perk is easily the cheapest perk ever, so youre telling me that i can unload 5 shots into a guys chest, but he still has a chance to lunge at me with a knife and Kill me and Live???

Theres also problems with the knifing, i swear its happened a few times, where ill stab them and the kill doesnt register, and then they kill me, or ill stab them first but they somehow get me..

jerkface96

I'm soooo glad I didn't spend $60 on this. I rented it, had my fun, and moved on.

Yeah, I'm starting to get tired of it as well. I'm fine with the thermal scope because I use cold blooded pro 90% of the time and it actually has a purpose. The main problem I have is with the stupid heartbeat sensor. Give me a break, They're forcing people to waste a perk slot in order to combat this noob attachment. Granted ninja pro makes your footsteps silent, it's still not worth it IMO. Don't even get me started on the care package, marathon, lightweight, commando pro, tactical knife idiots.

For your first complaint the nuke rarely happens.

2 it's not that hard to combat campers...while yes they are annoying at times but just check your corners before entering a room and use nades and stun bombs in close areas where they would be.

3rd Both thermal sights and heartbeat sensor take time to get and the majority of the games that i play don't use either thermal sight or heartbeat sensor(and if there is there is usually only one on a team).

4th You have a point on that one....i have been knifed when a guy was about 5 feet below me or 10 feet from me. Not to mention the fact that i shot a my shotty in their face right before they knifed me. And supersoldiers are rampant in the game.

And i'd like to add one thing to your argument....it's when playing ground wars, all that is nade fest. Swear whenever i play that for every 1 kill i get 3 nades fall in my lap.

I find it funny that everybody complains about campers, then about how unrealistic the game is. in real life, people camp. They saty in one spot when they think the enemy is near because they die if they dont. Don't get me wrong, ive thrown my controller a few times because of the crap you listed.

If you camp it basically shows your no good at the game, and therefore have to hide to get kills. I can't stand campers, since they are usually the ones who get the nukes in games too.

But it doesn't change my opinion on the fact that MW2 online is the best I've played ever

People who complain about campers are such crybabies! You know where the guys are shooting you from? If so instead of running in front of them for the dozenth time go around the back way and knife his @$$! Those spots are there for a reason, and they're perfectly open and vulnerable to attack at all times. So its not like the campers aren't taking a risk. Its the idiots that are dumb enough to keep running in the line of fire instead of finding a way to take those dudes out. Quit just treating the game like a run and gun. Use your heads! Stop whining and start playing!!! TheEldestGod

Nicely put

I don't think there's any choice but to camp, if you run around like a headless chicken you get picked off left right and centre, I discovered this early.

The spawning and some of the maps which can trap you into an area and give you no chance of getting out if a team has positioned themselves correctly is also frustrating.

I also hate the way care packages fall outside the map quite often....what are you suppose to do wait in the middle of the map for it and hope you don't get shot......c'mon no way should they be able to go outside the map and leave you no chance of using them.

the only problem IW needs to fix is Akimbow shotguns. I can deal with eveything else

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

Believe it or not, Im pretty sure all online games have campers, If you die from them its your fault, especially if you couldnt find them after watching a kill cam, another thing that helps is watching your corners.

and Ive only had three games wear a guy called in a nuke, and that was 3 times in a row by the same person haha

People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

0" rows="20" class="mceEditor">[QUOTE="BeyondDestiny"]alot of the things you mentioned are quite annoying but i have solved the camper problem long ago.........just carry a stinger launcher pal i promise it spoils the campers plans to obtain chopper gunner then nuke....the stinger launcher holds 2 missles and i only takes one to destroy anything......ANYTHING....yes they might send out flares but thats where the second missles comes in......if you need a player on your team to help you hunt out campers send me an invite PURE_SKILLZ101kenken2g

[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="kenken2g"]

Killcam doesn't matter that much this time around. You got the campers with lightweight and marathon plus ninja pro or something like scramble pro... they run to one side sit and camp with akimbo shotguns lol... run out of the building camp and run back in... stay behind some metal drums and move to the other side... just hoping someone will walk in so they can get them and move to another spot. It's not about being good enough LOL. How can you shoot what you can't catch lol? People like this are allllll over DOMINATION mode because of the flags.

kenken2g

I do too... it's just annoying. WAY more than COD4 or W@W. I also agree with you about the knifing. Man Commando Pro is just cheap. Guy just glides and knifes you even if you're shooting at him.... come on IW. Oh and lets not forget about the turret guns... OH BOY. You can shoot at them, throw nades at them. Takes forever to stop them. BUT BUT BUT BUT you run up to them with a knife and swipe them.... and it's done. WTF?

Campers is okay, as long as you know the map, you know where they usually camp. Since in the real war, everyone camps.

The real big problem is internet connection, MW2 seems to be not noob friendly. So a lot of people rage quit during a game. If they are a host, then game is pretty much over. WAW has the same connection system, but it seems less competitive than MW2.

I rarely rarely see ppl with 1 kill : 20 death in waw, but I always see some people with such bad kill death ratio on mw2.

IW need to make a noob matches (for ppl under lv20 or with very poor death/kill ratio), So they wouldnt get raped which lead to rage quit/no more distrubtion in game.

It would actually improve game quality/

I agree, it's a frustrating game at times"BUT" I do have my moments of glory once and a while. lol...but isn't that a fact with any multiplayer game?...Win some...lose some.

Campers is okay, as long as you know the map, you know where they usually camp.

oajlu

I totally agree,I was ableto foil 2 attempted airstrikes on me and my teammates in the invasion map because I know where most of the favorite camping spots are. It was so funny...each time the dude pulled out the brief case I was right there with my M1012.:P....of course you know you sent me a thank you message.lol

I try not to let that get in my way of having fun, but ya, it can get frustrating sometimes. And I hate the Commando perk for two reasons: One, I can unload half a clip into someone charging at me but they still knife me from what seems like four feet away and die, and they continue to kill, and two, once it is pro you have some people making incredible leaps off buildings knifing you in the back on their way down. And the heartbeat sensor is for noobs.

guess we're gonna wait for MAG?

anyways personally after a few games of cod's mp i went back to killzone's mp...

What bothers me the most are:

A- Super Soldiers. They will kill you before you can kill them. Even if you are firing at them, the perks let them run faster and stab from further distances.

B- Headshots: Why is it that many are not counted? I mean, many times have I killed others by literally blowing their brains out with no headshot reward. If they have an animation for when you have a headshot, why is it that I see the animation but not the reward?

C- Glitching campers: I dont care about campers, its something Ive been dealing with, since I got into FPS multiplayer back in the 90s with CS. But what I DO hate, are the ones that jump to places that are not normally accessible. You will only see them on the killcam.

For the first reason only, is that I will be more than happy to move to the much more balanced BC2 in a month.

To me the game needs patching lol. I mean I like the game but come on... there is an increased amount of camping in this game that is FAR beyond that of COD4 or W@W.

1.) 1-25 KILLSTREAK AWARDS.

IW messed the game up by putting these in here. I miss the days of COD4 and W@W now. MW2 with Magical boxes falling out the sky all kinds of different little trinkets for people to camp hoping they can get. A nuke that ends the game no matter what? An AC130 and Helicopter that has flares that pop out on it's own without you even having to do anything to defend it yourself? Several other of these trinkets. It encourages campers to camp.

Agreed, I hate the killstreaks. There is nothing "custom" about it. Way too many harrier, chopper gunner, nuke setups where they contribute nothing to the game just camping until they get a killstreak.. And to people saying "shoot down air support," You don't get the stinger until like level 30. I'm over that level, but higher level guns/perks=used less often. I mean the AK47 was one of the most popular if not the most popular guns in COD4, but you know why you barely never see people using it? Because you get it at level 70 as opposed to level 4.

2.) THE CURRENT MAPS.

Plenty of these maps look like they were built in order to help campers. I've never seen so many camping spots in a COD game. It's sad. It's like they are saying look you can camp here here here and here. Terrible. I actually started private matches with just me on the map just walking through looking at all the freaking spots to hide and just camp SOOOOO MANY.

I also have to agree. The maps are a joke. I like the worst maps in COD4 as opposed to most of them in MW2. Like you said, way too many places to camp. I remember this guy camping by this ladder on highrise, he even put a claymore by the ladder. He barely had any deaths. I can't kill him because if I go up the ladder, I'm dead. Plus he's hiding behind something which prevents people from killing him from a higher elevation. But yeah, all the maps have huge camping spots.

3.) WEAPON ATTACHMENTS.

Don't get me wrong there have been improvements since COD 4. But that Thermal Sight, and Heartbeat Sensor are TOYS FOR NOOBS. Any other players have to give up 2 perks just to combat these idiots... Ninja Pro and Cold Blooded Pro just to make things a little more fair.

I like all the different options they put here, but one is just horrible. The heartbeat sensor is pathetic. If your playing Search and Destroy without ninja, good luck. Also campers will just put their back at the wall looking at their heartbeat. Heartbeat is the only thing I hate here though.

4.) PERKS.

The "Super Solider". What is a Super Solider? I know you have seen one... probably some of you have been one. Somebody that uses perks Marathon Pro (Or Sight of Hand Pro), Lightweight Pro, and Commando Pro and either are running around with akimbo Model 1887 Shotguns (which has way too much range and accuracy to be a shotgun especially holding one in each hand) or a pistol with a tactical knife for fast stabbing... FREAKING SOLDIERS ON SPEED... can't be stopped and it's horrible. it's almost like a freaking cheat or something.I'm no noob... I like COD but to me it seems that MW2 left a sour taste in my mouth from all of the camping, care packages and turbo soldiers running around.

Yep. Commando is so fail. I shot a guy three times from the hip and he knifes me from 5 feet away. Also death streaks are horrible. They won't contribute that much to the game, but the idea of someone get rewarded for dying is a big laugh. Painkiler is the worst of them though. I shot this guy 3 times in the chest with a .50 cal with FMJ and stopping power and he lived! Also I was a few kills away from a nuke, so I kill this guy. I won right? Nope. He has final stand. I die.

Infinity Ward I think sold their souls to Activision. I loved COD4 but this is a casualized camp fest. Infinity is also lazy. I actaully care about the single-player, but they have 2 years to make it and it's a five hour long game with plot holes and a cliffhanger ending? Well, I'll have to wait another 2 years to play the other half of the single-player that is not finished. Also I love how other games have hundreds of hours of a single-player game (Dragon Age) and they sell nowhere near MW2. I'm most likely done with COD. COD is really killing gaming in my opinion. It goes to show a developer can put a lazy effort into a game and they will be laughing all the way to the bank. I don't want to play games I can beat in five hours that are focused on multiplayer. I want to play long games with a great story and single-player. Well, it looks like Activsion always starts out with a great game series and they ruin it some way or another for money. These include Tony Hawk (lol $120 for a crappy gimmick), Guitar Hero(copied Rock Band, they are milking it dry), and now COD. Sorry for my rant, it just really hope the game industry is going to not be like COD.

kenken2g

Yeah the online does fail, but I love it. Failed concepts and all =\

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

I also do agree with you on the Whole Super Soldier part, They did patch the Shotguns but theyre still cheap.

AND BY FAR the Commando perk is easily the cheapest perk ever, so youre telling me that i can unload 5 shots into a guys chest, but he still has a chance to lunge at me with a knife and Kill me and Live???

Theres also problems with the knifing, i swear its happened a few times, where ill stab them and the kill doesnt register, and then they kill me, or ill stab them first but they somehow get me..

samuraiguns

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"]People who complain about campers are such crybabies! You know where the guys are shooting you from? If so instead of running in front of them for the dozenth time go around the back way and knife his @$$! Those spots are there for a reason, and they're perfectly open and vulnerable to attack at all times. So its not like the campers aren't taking a risk. Its the idiots that are dumb enough to keep running in the line of fire instead of finding a way to take those dudes out. Quit just treating the game like a run and gun. Use your heads! Stop whining and start playing!!! M0wen10

Nicely put

guess we're gonna wait for MAG?

anyways personally after a few games of cod's mp i went back to killzone's mp...

kiwisama

[QUOTE="kenken2g"]

To me the game needs patching lol. I mean I like the game but come on... there is an increased amount of camping in this game that is FAR beyond that of COD4 or W@W.

1.) 1-25 KILLSTREAK AWARDS.

IW messed the game up by putting these in here. I miss the days of COD4 and W@W now. MW2 with Magical boxes falling out the sky all kinds of different little trinkets for people to camp hoping they can get. A nuke that ends the game no matter what? An AC130 and Helicopter that has flares that pop out on it's own without you even having to do anything to defend it yourself? Several other of these trinkets. It encourages campers to camp.

Agreed, I hate the killstreaks. There is nothing "custom" about it. Way too many harrier, chopper gunner, nuke setups where they contribute nothing to the game just camping until they get a killstreak.. And to people saying "shoot down air support," You don't get the stinger until like level 30. I'm over that level, but higher level guns/perks=used less often. I mean the AK47 was one of the most popular if not the most popular guns in COD4, but you know why you barely never see people using it? Because you get it at level 70 as opposed to level 4.

2.) THE CURRENT MAPS.

Plenty of these maps look like they were built in order to help campers. I've never seen so many camping spots in a COD game. It's sad. It's like they are saying look you can camp here here here and here. Terrible. I actually started private matches with just me on the map just walking through looking at all the freaking spots to hide and just camp SOOOOO MANY.

I also have to agree. The maps are a joke. I like the worst maps in COD4 as opposed to most of them in MW2. Like you said, way too many places to camp. I remember this guy camping by this ladder on highrise, he even put a claymore by the ladder. He barely had any deaths. I can't kill him because if I go up the ladder, I'm dead. Plus he's hiding behind something which prevents people from killing him from a higher elevation. But yeah, all the maps have huge camping spots.

3.) WEAPON ATTACHMENTS.

Don't get me wrong there have been improvements since COD 4. But that Thermal Sight, and Heartbeat Sensor are TOYS FOR NOOBS. Any other players have to give up 2 perks just to combat these idiots... Ninja Pro and Cold Blooded Pro just to make things a little more fair.

I like all the different options they put here, but one is just horrible. The heartbeat sensor is pathetic. If your playing Search and Destroy without ninja, good luck. Also campers will just put their back at the wall looking at their heartbeat. Heartbeat is the only thing I hate here though.

4.) PERKS.

The "Super Solider". What is a Super Solider? I know you have seen one... probably some of you have been one. Somebody that uses perks Marathon Pro (Or Sight of Hand Pro), Lightweight Pro, and Commando Pro and either are running around with akimbo Model 1887 Shotguns (which has way too much range and accuracy to be a shotgun especially holding one in each hand) or a pistol with a tactical knife for fast stabbing... FREAKING SOLDIERS ON SPEED... can't be stopped and it's horrible. it's almost like a freaking cheat or something.I'm no noob... I like COD but to me it seems that MW2 left a sour taste in my mouth from all of the camping, care packages and turbo soldiers running around.

Yep. Commando is so fail. I shot a guy three times from the hip and he knifes me from 5 feet away. Also death streaks are horrible. They won't contribute that much to the game, but the idea of someone get rewarded for dying is a big laugh. Painkiler is the worst of them though. I shot this guy 3 times in the chest with a .50 cal with FMJ and stopping power and he lived! Also I was a few kills away from a nuke, so I kill this guy. I won right? Nope. He has final stand. I die.

Infinity Ward I think sold their souls to Activision. I loved COD4 but this is a casualized camp fest. Infinity is also lazy. I actaully care about the single-player, but they have 2 years to make it and it's a five hour long game with plot holes and a cliffhanger ending? Well, I'll have to wait another 2 years to play the other half of the single-player that is not finished. Also I love how other games have hundreds of hours of a single-player game (Dragon Age) and they sell nowhere near MW2. I'm most likely done with COD. COD is really killing gaming in my opinion. It goes to show a developer can put a lazy effort into a game and they will be laughing all the way to the bank. I don't want to play games I can beat in five hours that are focused on multiplayer. I want to play long games with a great story and single-player. Well, it looks like Activsion always starts out with a great game series and they ruin it some way or another for money. These include Tony Hawk (lol $120 for a crappy gimmick), Guitar Hero(copied Rock Band, they are milking it dry), and now COD. Sorry for my rant, it just really hope the game industry is going to not be like COD.

hanslacher54