My metal gear online first impressions.

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#1 pjoasil
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This game has the potential to be the best online shooter ever.

Pros:

The graphics are top notch as expected. Lots of detail and sharp images.

Character customizations are better than rainbow six vegas 2 and easy to do.

Maps are great. not too big, not to small.

The lobby system is very good. you can find matches fast and the lobby fills up quickly.

ConS:

THE CONTROLS, THE CONTROLS, THE CONTROLS.

You character walks to slow. there is no run feature.

The cover system controls are retarded. Why could they have just copied r6V cover system?

You have to unload a whole clip to down an opponent unless you hit them in the head.

Long distance sniping is very inaccurate.

melee attacks don't work well even when right in front of the opponent.

no voice chat. If the final doesn't have this, this game will be corny.

If they fix the controls in this game and simplify the commands to do your moves, this game can beat any multiplayer game. Also, all multiplayer shooter games should have voice chat. I don't know why developers try not to add it.

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#2 kratos_q80
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the game is solid 10 / 10 for me
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#3 ThAcRaZeDoNe
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hey dude that shouls be your feed back comment when the betas over hey maybe they will listen

i kno ill be saying something about the running like u said

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There has been confirmed voice chat by Konami. This game is a 8/10 at best from me (I've only played 1 match though :P). I think CoD4 is so much more fun.
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#5 pjoasil
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hey dude that shouls be your feed back comment when the betas over hey maybe they will listen

i kno ill be saying something about the running like u said

ThAcRaZeDoNe

yeah, I sent my impressions to konami. Hopefully they will fix the controls by the time the game comes out. Don't get me wrong, the game is awesome. it would be perfect if they fixed these things.

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#6 Delsage
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Umm it does have voice chat. It's just very confusing on how to use to use. :p
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This game has the potential to be the best online shooter ever.

Pros:

The graphics are top notch as expected. Lots of detail and sharp images.

Character customizations are better than rainbow six vegas 2 and easy to do.

Maps are great. not too big, not to small.

The lobby system is very good. you can find matches fast and the lobby fills up quickly.

ConS:

THE CONTROLS, THE CONTROLS, THE CONTROLS.

You character walks to slow. there is no run feature.

The cover system controls are retarded. Why could they have just copied r6V cover system?

You have to unload a whole clip to down an opponent unless you hit them in the head.

Long distance sniping is very inaccurate.

melee attacks don't work well even when right in front of the opponent.

no voice chat. If the final doesn't have this, this game will be corny.

If they fix the controls in this game and simplify the commands to do your moves, this game can beat any multiplayer game. Also, all multiplayer shooter games should have voice chat. I don't know why developers try not to add it.

pjoasil

First of all, the game DOES have voice chat. At the start of the round press Select for 2 secs and the mic support will come on. Second, you CAN run... but it is a skill that you have to select for the character you create. So no, there is no run 'button' but there is definitely the opportunity to improve your movment speed.

Also, if you move with a handgun or knife, you move much faster than with a rifle or machine gone.

The cover system is straight from MGS4... it actually works quite well in the game... but I haven't played R6V to compare it. The controls overall feel excellent. It took me about 30 min worth of playing to get used to them... but once you do, it is VERY intuitive.

This game could easily be the greatest online shooter for this year. IMO the only contender in the online department will come from GTA IV online!

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#8 haze_blaze
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[QUOTE="ThAcRaZeDoNe"]

hey dude that shouls be your feed back comment when the betas over hey maybe they will listen

i kno ill be saying something about the running like u said

pjoasil

yeah, I sent my impressions to konami. Hopefully they will fix the controls by the time the game comes out. Don't get me wrong, the game is awesome. it would be perfect if they fixed these things.

Of the things you listed... the only one that actually turns out to be an issue is the amount of bullets to the body it takes to kill a soldier. All of your other concerns are actually addressed in the game. Accept for melee... melee attacks don't work well if you have a rifle or sub machine gun, but with the knife, no weapon, or handgun melee attacks feel VERY rewarding. Choking or throwing enemies is incredibly easy as long as you get close enough.

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#9 pjoasil
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Thanks for the correction. I didn't even notice these extra options. Thanks. But voice chat should be automatic. you shouldn't have to turn it on. That way every gamer will know that it is there. sniping sucks, but i guess you have to customize you skills with that too. Interesting.
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#10 haze_blaze
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Thanks for the correction. I didn't even notice these extra options. Thanks. But voice chat should be automatic. you shouldn't have to turn it on. That way every gamer will know that it is there. sniping sucks, but i guess you have to customize you skills with that too. Interesting.pjoasil

Yea there is a skill for sniping as well which improves accuracy, recoil, and bolt action.

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#11 wmattm
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my only complaint is the melee. they're just so worthless on this game
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#12 haze_blaze
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Keep in mind, the purpose for having skills is to have your character (and gameplay) focus towards those skills. And by playing with squadmates who major in different skills, this game offers the largest opportunity for teamwork and tactical gameplay than any other online title I've played... b/c your team can have a great variety of skills available to them. And it's up to you to choose what skills you select and choose to upgrade. So you can pretty much play the game however you want to.

As for the mic. I guess they figured that most gamers would take time to look at the tutorial they provided in the game... it tells you how to basically do all of the functions in the game.

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#13 TIGERLUCK
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it's good.. just takes time to get used to.. the chat and command function is great. The final version should allow us to custom make command shouts.

but I agree the close combat feels a bit off..

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#14 haze_blaze
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CQC with two handed weapons just is not very effective at all b/c the character has no range. But when you use CQC with a knife or handgun, it is pretty effective. It's especially easy to get someone in a chokehold and render them unconcious. It takes getting used to, but I normally get more points for CQC than kills in a match!

The game could definitely use a bit more polish. But I think the majority of those that aren't comfortable with it are trying to approach it like a run & gun type game. This game is meant to be played more strategically. But really it's been fun either way for me.

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#15 Yojimbo25
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Dude I agree mostly, but you are forgetting one thing its a BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not the near final version of the game.
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#16 2headedhawaiian
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More customization than R6V2? Have you played R6V2? The customization in this beta is weak to say the least. Overall, it's a fairly solid game, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I wish they'd drop those stiff animations. I think that's what bothers me the most.
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#17 Sokol4ever
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After the first full day of my gameplay, the MGO is going to be the greatest online game on PS3 in shooting department for years to come.

Beta is phenomenal, the game is fantastic.

I'll not go over TC over wrong points in his Cons, because it has already been answered by few fine folks.

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#18 Sokol4ever
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More customization than R6V2? Have you played R6V2? The customization in this beta is weak to say the least. Overall, it's a fairly solid game, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I wish they'd drop those stiff animations. I think that's what bothers me the most.2headedhawaiian

At the moment, the Beta itself makes rainbow six customization look bad. I have both and I have all of RVS2 unlocked. MGO is top notch, those so called stiff movements are not stiff at all.

This is how MGS4 is and animations are top notch. You do not compare MGO to other genres, it's on its own league.

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#19 MERC_RECONN
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Alot of people are talking about problems with the control...Try the training missions first so you can ajust the controls to you liking. It takes a little time to but the pay-off is big. I'm not saying that the controls are perfect but they are not as bad as some people are making them out to be.
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#20 MERC_RECONN
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its a BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not the near final version of the game.Yojimbo25

PLEASE say that again!!!! I think most of the complainers are forgetting about that LITTLE fact!!! lol

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#21 2headedhawaiian
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[QUOTE="2headedhawaiian"]More customization than R6V2? Have you played R6V2? The customization in this beta is weak to say the least. Overall, it's a fairly solid game, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I wish they'd drop those stiff animations. I think that's what bothers me the most.Sokol4ever

At the moment, the Beta itself makes rainbow six customization look bad. I have both and I have all of RVS2 unlocked. MGO is top notch, those so called stiff movements are not stiff at all.

This is how MGS4 is and animations are top notch. You do not compare MGO to other genres, it's on its own league.

Okay, first, I don't want to get into some kind of flame war over this, because, frankly, it's juvenile and I'm a much bigger MGS fan than R6. BUT, if you're going off of customization options alone, R6V2 has about three times the amount of appearance settings (armour, clothing, and camo). There are also many many more weapons available in R6V2 than in MGO beta. Not to mention that the different armor actually has an effect on your character. So I think when you say things like that you've got your MGS fan goggles on, because the fact is there are far more options in R6V2.

Stiff movements do, indeed, persist in the MGO beta. Yes, they've been the same in MGS since the beginning, but that's starting to not be a good thing. In an online world where movement is key, being able to make quick, controlled moves can be the difference between deezing and being deezed. Is it necessary for your character to take every single stair in a stairway? When you do a roll off of a platform, he stops in mid-air and falls straight down. If you think those animations are "top notch," again, you need to change your lenses.

Do I think MGO can overcome most of its issues before release and manage to be a decent online shooter? Yes, I do. But communication has to get easier/better to promote actual teamwork (something completely lacking on PSN), graphics/animations need to be cleaned up considerably, and various other minor gameplay issues need to be addressed. Luckily, that's what betas are for. But blindly positive feedback isn't going to help anybody, sokol4ever. I suggest trying to be a little more discerning in your analyses.