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#1 sabbath420
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Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

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Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

sabbath420
What ideas come from America, I to am from the United States but I have yet to see any ideas come from a specific region. Most Ideas come from a person not a nationality... If you have paid any attention to the recent GDC threads you will notice a new trend, one that has Sony going in a very positive direction, Playstaion Home, new downloadable games, things like downloading movies...They are moving in the right direction and in all honest I understand that what you wrote above is you opinion, but at the same time I think you need to get in touch with reality. The PSN will come around, the games will get better, and the system as a whole will be a lot better.
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Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

sabbath420
maybe because MS has been spending the last 10 years or so making my computer usage some of the worst i can possibly imagine? windows being one of the worst OS in existance, all the while they promote stagnent ideas, only progressing slightly when forced. using the same technology over and over again, while making a poor quality gaming machine that has excessive hardware failures. i have no problem with american companies, but MS is a joke, they have never innovated or designed or progressed with anything they have ever made. its all the same. anything they do progress in, is because of someone else(see who helped design the box, Samsung, IBM, etc.)
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#4 sabbath420
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Well, don't you think that if there were a better operating system for the pc companies would embrace it? I have found my computing experience over the last decade to be pretty good. Sure things could be better, but if any other operating system were as widely used as windows hackers would find weaknesses in them as well. And let's see here, on the note of innovation look at the ps3 controller. Microsoft sidewinder game pad for the pc 8 years ago was tilt sensitive. It was not that impressive then and it's not now.

How can you possibly say MS is not innovative? Look at the strides XBOXlive has made in the last year. I watched the first south park episode in HD from the xboxlive market place yesterday. And you know what? While I was waiting for the download I was able to listen to music streaming from my pc and play gears of war. Hmm not very progressive you say. MS game studios are putting out some good games lately also. And how about games that can be played on both vista on the pc and xbox? Over the live network no less.

Oh and don't forget at the end of the year xbox will be used by AT&T amongst other cable companies as an iptv box. Sony is so far behind the game fellas.

You just keep waiting for your system to get better. All the while many others and myself will enjoy all the things sony promises for the future,     now.

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Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

sabbath420
Thanks. I spent a good 60 seconds reading your post.. That's 60 seconds of my life I'll never get back. You, sir, are a waste of time!!!
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#6 sabbath420
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What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.
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Well, don't you think that if there were a better operating system for the pc companies would embrace it? I have found my computing experience over the last decade to be pretty good. Sure things could be better, but if any other operating system were as widely used as windows hackers would find weaknesses in them as well. And let's see here, on the note of innovation look at the ps3 controller. Microsoft sidewinder game pad for the pc 8 years ago was tilt sensitive. It was not that impressive then and it's not now.

How can you possibly say MS is not innovative? Look at the strides XBOXlive has made in the last year. I watched the first south park episode in HD from the xboxlive market place yesterday. And you know what? While I was waiting for the download I was able to listen to music streaming from my pc and play gears of war. Hmm not very progressive you say. MS game studios are putting out some good games lately also. And how about games that can be played on both vista on the pc and xbox? Over the live network no less.

Oh and don't forget at the end of the year xbox will be used by AT&T amongst other cable companies as an iptv box. Sony is so far behind the game fellas.

You just keep waiting for your system to get better. All the while many others and myself will enjoy all the things sony promises for the future,     now.

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because MS has a monopoly on the OS business by preinstalling windows on every computer sold

so how is anyone ever going to notice there are other os's available?

you do know MS has no inovation? the company started by downright stealing dos from Steve Jobs and even IE was not made buy ms. They bought out the company who did.

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take this crap to System Wars already
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[QUOTE="sabbath420"]

Well, don't you think that if there were a better operating system for the pc companies would embrace it? I have found my computing experience over the last decade to be pretty good. Sure things could be better, but if any other operating system were as widely used as windows hackers would find weaknesses in them as well. And let's see here, on the note of innovation look at the ps3 controller. Microsoft sidewinder game pad for the pc 8 years ago was tilt sensitive. It was not that impressive then and it's not now.

How can you possibly say MS is not innovative? Look at the strides XBOXlive has made in the last year. I watched the first south park episode in HD from the xboxlive market place yesterday. And you know what? While I was waiting for the download I was able to listen to music streaming from my pc and play gears of war. Hmm not very progressive you say. MS game studios are putting out some good games lately also. And how about games that can be played on both vista on the pc and xbox? Over the live network no less.

Oh and don't forget at the end of the year xbox will be used by AT&T amongst other cable companies as an iptv box. Sony is so far behind the game fellas.

You just keep waiting for your system to get better. All the while many others and myself will enjoy all the things sony promises for the future, now.

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because MS has a monopoly on the OS business by preinstalling windows on every computer sold

so how is anyone ever going to notice there are other os's available?

you do know MS has no inovation? the company started by downright stealing dos from Steve Jobs and even IE was not made buy ms. They bought out the company who did.

Yeah i've heard that,.
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Well, don't you think that if there were a better operating system for the pc companies would embrace it? I have found my computing experience over the last decade to be pretty good. Sure things could be better, but if any other operating system were as widely used as windows hackers would find weaknesses in them as well. And let's see here, on the note of innovation look at the ps3 controller. Microsoft sidewinder game pad for the pc 8 years ago was tilt sensitive. It was not that impressive then and it's not now.

How can you possibly say MS is not innovative? Look at the strides XBOXlive has made in the last year. I watched the first south park episode in HD from the xboxlive market place yesterday. And you know what? While I was waiting for the download I was able to listen to music streaming from my pc and play gears of war. Hmm not very progressive you say. MS game studios are putting out some good games lately also. And how about games that can be played on both vista on the pc and xbox? Over the live network no less.

Oh and don't forget at the end of the year xbox will be used by AT&T amongst other cable companies as an iptv box. Sony is so far behind the game fellas.

You just keep waiting for your system to get better. All the while many others and myself will enjoy all the things sony promises for the future,     now.

sabbath420

you honestly dont know a better OS than windows? then you dont pay attention to computers. ok, the problem with windows is not just hacks, its not as simple as you seem to think it is. Linux/Unix is superior for a handfull of reasons, its superior design is a neater code, which is less wasteful of system resources such as cache, and system ram, and hard drive space, the reason you can run linux on horrible PC's without a blip. next its open source, so rather than having to wait 2 weeks for MS to update a hole in the code, it can be done immediately. since windows likes to tie everything together, and make back doors into things, it makes for a wide open system for hackers. IE is a fine example, it lets people backdoor into your system. try Firefox for a week, make sure you use a spyware checker for a week with IE, and firefox will shine through. and back to the system resource usage, this would make it superior to windows for running everything, especially games, as the OS doesnt take up your backround resources. lets take for example the top version of Vista, this takes more of a hardware upgrade than most games, and costs $300+. Linux on the other hand is free, and requires almost nothing to run, which is what you would want from an OS, so you can do what the computer is meant to do, run programs. windows has always been one of the most wasteful OS's made. they did a review on Vista, and stated it isnt much more than aesthetics and a few security updates, which could have been done for XP. wow, such innovation. as for the Box, they were helped on that every inch of the way, i promise you that. and since it breaks constantly, enough to warrant them extending the warranty, they are admitting clearly there is a serious problem.
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they u 1st time buyers are suckers. its pays to wait. the funny thing is most of 360/PS3 games are PS2 quality.
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[QUOTE="PSP107"]they u 1st time buyers are suckers. its pays to wait. the funny thing is most of 360/PS3 games are PS2 quality.

odd, i havent seen one game on the PS3 or 360 in the past 6 months that would be possible on the PS2, apparently you dont know what your talking about maybe?
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#13 sabbath420
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All I was trying to convey is what I see from sony and the new machine they continuously lie about. What my friend puts the ps3 above the 360? Why was the gamer expected to wait for sony to ring in the next gen. If I would have waited the extra year to play in your world I would be sadly dissapointed today. Sure maybe they will get better, but how long must we wait and how much must we spend. And why no choice to have bd or not?

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All I was trying to convey is what I see from sony and the new machine they continuously lie about. What my friend puts the ps3 above the 360? Why was the gamer expected to wait for sony to ring in the next gen. If I would have waited the extra year to play in your world I would be sadly dissapointed today. Sure maybe they will get better, but how long must we wait and how much must we spend. And why no choice to have bd or not?

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Your complaining way too late, theres nothing to complain about!

Everything your talking about will be sorted through and fixed by Sony, so why the hell are you wasting forum space with ignorant comments?

There IS a System Wars forum where people will actually give a damn.

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What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420
To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.
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No, you're a fanboy, sorry. Play the system for once before you pass judgment.
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How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. sabbath420

I guess you didnt watch the home trailer. High tag price? The fact that online-network is free will cover the price difference of the two console over time. Plus ur getting a blu-ray drive. Too much blu-ray? ??? that's like me saying too much dvd. Too much VHS. Too much printers.


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[QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.The_G00se
To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

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All I was trying to convey is what I see from sony and the new machine they continuously lie about. What my friend puts the ps3 above the 360? Why was the gamer expected to wait for sony to ring in the next gen. If I would have waited the extra year to play in your world I would be sadly dissapointed today. Sure maybe they will get better, but how long must we wait and how much must we spend. And why no choice to have bd or not?

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cause they needed the space for their games, which Lair is using all of the BD disc, FF13 will use the whole disc, MGS4 is for sure going to use the whole disc. XBL was hardly a good service starting up, and the games were trash until Gears, thats a fact no one likes to admit. how many good games are coming out for the box right now? not many. its a drought for all systems right now, its bound to happen. PS3 is picking up steam, and that seems to amaze people, like this isnt the exact same thing that happened the last 2 launches. buy what you like, MS just has always screwed me over, so i refuse to pay for anything from them.
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#20 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

i consider not breaking all the time and whistling like a jet enhancing my game experience, cause i can actually play it rather than send it back to the manufacturer. most of the PS3 is normal hardware, the Cell is far superior, even IBM, who designed the processors for both systems says so, and the BD is superior to DVD, thats an obvious fact.
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[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

A lot of profits from foreign companies are going to U.S. Just because ur company is located elsewhere in the world doesn't mean we don't any share of it. A dvd holds 4.7gig of data, blu-ray up to a 100gig currently. Future proof. Think outside the box.
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All I was trying to convey is what I see from sony and the new machine they continuously lie about. What my friend puts the ps3 above the 360? Why was the gamer expected to wait for sony to ring in the next gen. If I would have waited the extra year to play in your world I would be sadly dissapointed today. Sure maybe they will get better, but how long must we wait and how much must we spend. And why no choice to have bd or not?

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Your flawed in your theory, M$ definitely apeals to the u.s. market more.. because thats all they know.. and you think its a strong point, but when you look at the grand scheme of things its not.. nationality doesnt matter.. what matters is the bottoms line.. now for a blu ray player.. i agree with you most of us DO NOT need a blu ray player.. but do you remember the ps2? most of us DIDNT need a DVD player.. but look where we are today.. they are thinking long run as always. The PSN network is lackluster but.. did you not read/watch speach today.. thats a thing of the past.. you may not want to buy a ps3.. most people wont.. but sooner or later.. you will.. just wait and see whats in store.. Its true that xbox has made some great strides recently, and they definitely have the best online experience this far.. but you seem to forget all the BS we all had to put up with them.. do you not remember no background downloading, broken 360s(im on my third) also the crap line up of games at launch. It took M$ a whole console cycle to get things to start to go right. Xbox live did have lack of content at one point. If you easily disregard these mistaked but compain about it for the ps3, you dont even own a ps3 so technicaly its just fanboyism. also your last quote "leave sony to japan" you do realize that sony sold more not only in japan but also in the united states right.. so that means that the Playstation is also loved by people in the U.S.
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Nothing much more I can say too you .. its all pretty much been said. But I would like to say : -Go to system wars, -Don't be a fanboy , -You complained to late , -Educate you'reself on the matter you are discussing, -Don't be a nationalist and last but not least -Don't be a fool. I bid you good day.
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#25 wizeguy41
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[QUOTE="The_Tombo"]Nothing much more I can say too you .. its all pretty much been said. But I would like to say : -Go to system wars, -Don't be a fanboy , -You complained to late , -Educate you'reself on the matter you are discussing, -Don't be a nationalist and last but not least -Don't be a fool. I bid you good day.

LOL i like the use of the word nationalist :-D ~respect~
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#26 sabbath420
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[QUOTE="sabbath420"]

[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.Gzus666

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

i consider not breaking all the time and whistling like a jet enhancing my game experience, cause i can actually play it rather than send it back to the manufacturer. most of the PS3 is normal hardware, the Cell is far superior, even IBM, who designed the processors for both systems says so, and the BD is superior to DVD, thats an obvious fact.

Well hardware failures are normal in the electronics buisiness. ps2 knows all about that. many millions of people have not had problems with the 360. 

If the cell is so superior and I don't dought it is, then why is it not evident? Where is that extra power being used? The bd player now that is useful and is a nice feature to have. But not needed for games. Would have been a nice add on device for people that wanted one. yes I do understand blue ray is superior to dvd. I own a HD-DVD player thank you. And I own that by choice. I think HD-DVD will win the format war. And if I am wrong than I will unplug my hd player from my 360 and plug in the bd player that would be made.

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#27 sabbath420
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And if you don't like my post don't comment on it. I was just trying to make for some stimulating coversation.
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#28 Faller88
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"Sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market. "

I'm European ,I like the far east more then Amerika.......mmmh or perhaps I should just sell my American 360 and use it to invest in my country's stock market. (Should boost my "patriotism.) lol

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#29 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]

[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

i consider not breaking all the time and whistling like a jet enhancing my game experience, cause i can actually play it rather than send it back to the manufacturer. most of the PS3 is normal hardware, the Cell is far superior, even IBM, who designed the processors for both systems says so, and the BD is superior to DVD, thats an obvious fact.

Well hardware failures are normal in the electronics buisiness. ps2 knows all about that. many millions of people have not had problems with the 360. 

If the cell is so superior and I don't dought it is, then why is it not evident? Where is that extra power being used? The bd player now that is useful and is a nice feature to have. But not needed for games. Would have been a nice add on device for people that wanted one. yes I do understand blue ray is superior to dvd. I own a HD-DVD player thank you. And I own that by choice. I think HD-DVD will win the format war. And if I am wrong than I will unplug my hd player from my 360 and plug in the bd player that would be made.

ok, hardware failures are not normal in droves. PS2 did have a problem, but the new one doesnt. Sony also corrected that problem very quickly. had mine for 6 years without a blip. the cell is a physics and AI beast. R:FOM has the best AI ive ever seen in a game, and the physics are amazing. dont bring up gears, gears was pretty, but the AI and Physics were terrible. after seeing people walk over aliens in it and they roll like foam, thats just pitiful. there arnt a lot of games out for the PS3 just yet, so they wont be pushing the cell just yet. look how long it took to push the PS2, but you cant tell me GoW2 isnt amazing. the Cell chip will take over the normal chip design soon, cause they are hitting a wall in how fast you can clock a conventional chip. if you have a F1 car, and are limited to quarter throttle, its not going to be faster, but it has the potential when you open it up.

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#31 Faller88
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"Sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market. "

I'm European ,I like the far east more then Amerika.......mmmh or perhaps I should just sell my American 360 and use it to invest in my country's stock market. (Should boost my "patriotism.") lol

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#34 wizeguy41
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]

[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

i consider not breaking all the time and whistling like a jet enhancing my game experience, cause i can actually play it rather than send it back to the manufacturer. most of the PS3 is normal hardware, the Cell is far superior, even IBM, who designed the processors for both systems says so, and the BD is superior to DVD, thats an obvious fact.

Well hardware failures are normal in the electronics buisiness. ps2 knows all about that. many millions of people have not had problems with the 360.

If the cell is so superior and I don't dought it is, then why is it not evident? Where is that extra power being used? The bd player now that is useful and is a nice feature to have. But not needed for games. Would have been a nice add on device for people that wanted one. yes I do understand blue ray is superior to dvd. I own a HD-DVD player thank you. And I own that by choice. I think HD-DVD will win the format war. And if I am wrong than I will unplug my hd player from my 360 and plug in the bd player that would be made.

the cell isnt being used to its full potentcial because cell technology is relatively new, so in constructing a game would take a different aproach from the convential means that the 360 uses. And aperently you dont know too much about the hd world.. you may have an hd-dvd on your 360 but to truly apreciate it you need 1080p which your 360 cannot accomidate, i know you can output 1080p on component... but its not the same.. true 1080p requires at least HDMI component. and if you look the blu ray player as not needed for games you may think that now.. but you will start to see xbox games come in 2 disks ie. blue dragon.. why.. because their is too much data.. we dont need all these features now.. but what sony wants to do is plan for the future.. its very aperent in the grand scheme.. they say it all the damn time.. and we dont like your comments because your not thinking things through.. try not to be a bias..
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#35 sabbath420
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I am sorry for angering the sony gods. I have admitted that the system is overall a good product. But as far as a game console I am dissapointed. I am mostly upset by sony and the lies. I really wanted to play in 4D and b3yond and all that jazz because I am a video game lover and have been for almost 30 years now. And hope to be for another 30+. I wanted to c more than the 360 had.But am so far let down. As far as my HD knowlege and choice, my tv only goes up to 1080i. I have seen true 1080p HD-DVD and am hard pressed to c the difference. Or pay the difference. Also I am sorry for posting this topic here. I am kind of new to the forum reading and posting.

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#36 ironcreed
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What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

Well, let me sum it up for you very simply here. The PS3 has only been out for 4 MONTHS, and you speak as if it has already reached it's peak potential, lol. I have an Xbox 360 as well, which I love, but it did not have such a hot start either, if my memory serves me correctly, lol. Not to mention the fact that over a year after launch they are STILL lemoning out on people in ridiculous numbers. "I am on my 3rd 360", "I am on my 4th 360", I am on 360 number 5", ect., ect. It SURE AS HELL is not without it's design flaws either, my friend, so do not be such a hypocrite.

The 360 has had a year head start, so of course there are going to be better games. How many times does this simple, common sense fact need to be stated before "certain people" will actually use a bit of logical and critical thinking in order to see the obvious here? I guess blind fanboyism prevents certain facts from being able to be completely absorbed and integrated into a rational conclusion of the truth....such a shame.

Anyway, of course the PS3 is not perfect right now, but Jesus, man....give it more than 4 months to be able to show what it is capable of. The fact of the matter is, developers have not even begun to scratch the surface in regards to what the PS3 can do, so all you are really doing with such premature, gloom and doom "Sony sucks" bashing is setting yourself up to eventually have to eat your own words.

In conclusion, both PS3 and the 360 are great consoles, and each will have their fair share of great games, and if you were a "true gamer" as you stated you were, you would not be so prejudice against the PS3 just because it is Japanese. I could somewhat understand it if you just did not like any of the games that Playstation offers, (hard to believe that ANY serious gamer would hate all Playstation titles, lol.) but you seem to bash it just because it is made in Japan. How closed and narrow minded, man....come on. 

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#37 UntoldDreams
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WHAT THE HELL?  What a shoddy, stupid, racist post.

I'm sorry but words like this just TICK ME OFF.
Your patriotic buy AMERICAN means Japan, Europe, Australia, etc. etc. Should never buy the 360.

Is this what you want?  Isolationism?  Or are you being a racist turd ball and saying.
"Americans should buy 360.   Japanese should buy 360.  Europe should buy 360."

Because America is great and everyone else is a slave?  WHAT THE HELL?

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#38 ironcreed
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WHAT THE HELL?  What a shoddy, stupid, racist post.

I'm sorry but words like this just TICK ME OFF.
Your patriotic buy AMERICAN means Japan, Europe, Australia, etc. etc. Should never buy the 360.

Is this what you want?  Isolationism?  Or are you being a racist turd ball and saying.
"Americans should buy 360.   Japanese should buy 360.  Europe should buy 360."

Because America is great and everyone else is a slave?  WHAT THE HELL?

UntoldDreams

Agreed....that is pretty much how the post sounded to me as well, in so many words.

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#39 UntoldDreams
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What's next you support Haliburton as long as they successfully rip off other countries its OK?
What about USA taxpayers. Is it okay if they rip off only the poor people but the rich people are OK?

Hey guess what? That guy you know that guy SHANE KIM. Guess what. KIM is not an American name.

Oh wait a second... That other guy? Peter Moore? He's from Europe. Let's kill him.
Let's get Microsoft to hire only Americans...




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#40 DaTNi99aJaEo
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I Agree With Gzus666...HE sTateD All The FaCtz....Hes RiGht...MIcrosoft Os DoeS SUCk....I Mean DonT Get Me WroNg...Xp Is GreAt...I loVe It...ViSta IS The WorSt THinG EveR..IT ScrEwEd uP MY CompUTer...O And JusT To lEt u KNOW..My CompUTer hAS 4 GiGz Of RaM...160 GiGz oF MemoRY...ANd A $500 GraphiCs CaRd..SO FOr All OF You WHo WerE GoinG to Say "Your COmputer IS wEak"..*SHuT up*...u Can Ask aNy CompuTer TeCh..AnD They WIll Tell You THaT LiNux IS The BEst...LEss ProBlems...No Viruses...Less HAckers...Less Complicated...WhiCh Is wHy soNy ChoSe iS For The Ps3...DonT Get mE WRonG...XBox Is GreAt....Its A poWerFul SysTem...But THe ProBlems It hAs...It Goes To shOw That MS Is Not THe BesT..I Work foR BEstBuy aNd TruSt Me When i SaY that fOR Every Ps3 we Get That Has a ProBlem...10 xboxes HaVe Come iN ThaT Did Not Work...And How LonG Xbox 360 beEn Out And They Still CanT Fix That bUg..i'Ve Been Thru 5 xBox 360's...I'Ve HaD Playstation 3 SINCe day 1..I hAve Two TO bE Exact..Has NOt eVen Froze YEt...And Both ArE Hacked with 200 Gb Hdd..and linux ...So iF Your SayinG That MS IS innovative..DonT be To Sure
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#42 Gzus666
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I Agree With Gzus666...HE sTateD All The FaCtz....Hes RiGht...MIcrosoft Os DoeS SUCk....I Mean DonT Get Me WroNg...Xp Is GreAt...I loVe It...ViSta IS The WorSt THinG EveR..IT ScrEwEd uP MY CompUTer...O And JusT To lEt u KNOW..My CompUTer hAS 4 GiGz Of RaM...160 GiGz oF MemoRY...ANd A $500 GraphiCs CaRd..SO FOr All OF You WHo WerE GoinG to Say "Your COmputer IS wEak"..*SHuT up*...u Can Ask aNy CompuTer TeCh..AnD They WIll Tell You THaT LiNux IS The BEst...LEss ProBlems...No Viruses...Less HAckers...Less Complicated...WhiCh Is wHy soNy ChoSe iS For The Ps3...DonT Get mE WRonG...XBox Is GreAt....Its A poWerFul SysTem...But THe ProBlems It hAs...It Goes To shOw That MS Is Not THe BesT..I Work foR BEstBuy aNd TruSt Me When i SaY that fOR Every Ps3 we Get That Has a ProBlem...10 xboxes HaVe Come iN ThaT Did Not Work...And How LonG Xbox 360 beEn Out And They Still CanT Fix That bUg..i'Ve Been Thru 5 xBox 360's...I'Ve HaD Playstation 3 SINCe day 1..I hAve Two TO bE Exact..Has NOt eVen Froze YEt...And Both ArE Hacked with 200 Gb Hdd..and linux ...So iF Your SayinG That MS IS innovative..DonT be To SureDaTNi99aJaEo
please never agree with me again, it makes my well thought out posts look bad. my god you wasted a lot of time with the caps, painfully obvious you work for best buy, and are probably under the age of 20. im sorry if you take this the wrong way, but my god, you set yourself up for this. im not sure how you "hack" a 200gb hard drive in (no retail 2.5" SATA 150 drive exists for normal sale, unless your speaking of a external, which isnt "hacked"). but, i guess i have to give it to you, you spent more time than i think anyone in the history of this forum has for a post.
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#43 The_G00se
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[QUOTE="The_G00se"][QUOTE="sabbath420"]What points do I make that you can deny? You could have stopped reading if you did not like it.sabbath420

To think that all the parts inside an XBOX 360 are made in America is just stupid!!!! Did you know that most Toyotas are made in America by Americans? I get what you're trying to say but you need to educate yourself before shooting off at the mouth. And regardless, because it is America, I will buy whatever the hell I want regardess of where it's made as long as the quality is superior. Don't come here with your judgemental crap telling us we should buy an XBOX because it's American.

if you read the post I stated i am aware that all compontents are not made in america. I am saying I support an american BASED company. Just like I support american car companies. The money goes to the american base. Not the japanese base. Do you really think the ps3 is superior hardware? It may have a few extras added on for bells and whistles purposes, but do they enhance the game experience any?

Actually I do think it's better. If you compare both systems at the time they were launched, the PS3 is a better product. But hey, I didn't bring that up... you did. Anyway, this belongs on system wars if you're going to start debating which system is better.
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#44 chamber25
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I think you really are quite closed off in your thinking. First of all just just mentioning the because MS is an american company i want to support it, already shows bias for wrong reasons. I mean so in the same right people out of US should stop using Windows cause it was not made in their country. While Ps3 has had a shakey start i think Sony home alone can do everything X box Live can do and a whole lot more while staying free. Debate about the blue ray is still open, but most indications seem like it is going to beat HD DVD's so your money won't be wasted.
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#45 DaTNi99aJaEo
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FiRsT Of All...ThE whOle...MS pRoductS ArE Made In THe US so ItS BettEr Makes No senSe...And ThE exAmplE WiTh THe AmerICan Cars IS RetaRted Too...IF u DiDnt KNow...Japenese CaRs Are MOre reliAbLe ThEn AmericaN Cars...The PArTs FOr AmeriCan Cars Are CheaPer ThaTs All.So iF THe 360 is An AmeriCan ProduCt..mUSt Be chEap..WHat U think?!....360 Is a GreAt SYsteM So DonT THink IM A FaNBoy...I Have The Wii And The PS3....They All ExCeeded MY exPeCtaTiOns...BuT In The LOng RuN....We ArE aLL JudgiNG a SysTem thAt HasNt eVeN beEn Out FOr HaLF a YeaR....360 beEn Out FOr ALmOst TwO aNd LooK How LonG They Took TO Get To whErE theY aRe At...TheIR SyStEm StilL Has PRobLems..IVe Been Thru FiVe So FaR...BouT TO bE Six...I Think PlaYsTatIon HAs A LoT oF uniqUe IdeAs THat We aRe NoT awaRe Of...And In THe LoNG Run..Ps3 will ProBablY be a FavoRite
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FiRsT Of All...ThE whOle...MS pRoductS ArE Made In THe US so ItS BettEr Makes No senSe...And ThE exAmplE WiTh THe AmerICan Cars IS RetaRted Too...IF u DiDnt KNow...Japenese CaRs Are MOre reliAbLe ThEn AmericaN Cars...The PArTs FOr AmeriCan Cars Are CheaPer ThaTs All.So iF THe 360 is An AmeriCan ProduCt..mUSt Be chEap..WHat U think?!....360 Is a GreAt SYsteM So DonT THink IM A FaNBoy...I Have The Wii And The PS3....They All ExCeeded MY exPeCtaTiOns...BuT In The LOng RuN....We ArE aLL JudgiNG a SysTem thAt HasNt eVeN beEn Out FOr HaLF a YeaR....360 beEn Out FOr ALmOst TwO aNd LooK How LonG They Took TO Get To whErE theY aRe At...TheIR SyStEm StilL Has PRobLems..IVe Been Thru FiVe So FaR...BouT TO bE Six...I Think PlaYsTatIon HAs A LoT oF uniqUe IdeAs THat We aRe NoT awaRe Of...And In THe LoNG Run..Ps3 will ProBablY be a FavoRiteDaTNi99aJaEo


Isn't it... a lot more work forcing yourself to type like that?

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#47 Gzus666
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FiRsT Of All...ThE whOle...MS pRoductS ArE Made In THe US so ItS BettEr Makes No senSe...And ThE exAmplE WiTh THe AmerICan Cars IS RetaRted Too...IF u DiDnt KNow...Japenese CaRs Are MOre reliAbLe ThEn AmericaN Cars...The PArTs FOr AmeriCan Cars Are CheaPer ThaTs All.So iF THe 360 is An AmeriCan ProduCt..mUSt Be chEap..WHat U think?!....360 Is a GreAt SYsteM So DonT THink IM A FaNBoy...I Have The Wii And The PS3....They All ExCeeded MY exPeCtaTiOns...BuT In The LOng RuN....We ArE aLL JudgiNG a SysTem thAt HasNt eVeN beEn Out FOr HaLF a YeaR....360 beEn Out FOr ALmOst TwO aNd LooK How LonG They Took TO Get To whErE theY aRe At...TheIR SyStEm StilL Has PRobLems..IVe Been Thru FiVe So FaR...BouT TO bE Six...I Think PlaYsTatIon HAs A LoT oF uniqUe IdeAs THat We aRe NoT awaRe Of...And In THe LoNG Run..Ps3 will ProBablY be a FavoRiteDaTNi99aJaEo
its "retarded" by the way. and japanese cars tend to be reliable because they are simple. american cars tend to not be good unless you purchase their sports car models. most american engineers dont care about anything but the performance stuff, so their other lines suffer. now, another dose of reality, most toyotas are made here. simple way to tell is to check the beginning of the Vin, if its a J, its a japanese made car, if its a number, its an american built. most of the stuff in the 360 are from all over, Samsung helped, so did IBM. MS just cheaps out on everything(same with their code in their operating system, thats half of why it BLOWS). after your amazing posts, i dont think anyone thinks your a fanboy, im sure they have some other perceptions of you though...
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I was the biggest XBox 360 fanboy on this site for a long time. After awhile I got really tired of the 360 having no good games, and all the long game droughts. As a matter of fact, there are hardly any games I'm interested in on the 360 for all of 2007. The only games I have liked on the 360 in the whole time the system has been out are Hitman Bloodmoney, Tomb Raider Legend, Lego Star Wars 2, PGR3, DOA4, and FEAR. I got completely bored with Gears of War after 1 week, and I can't stand the Halo games, so there's nothing that I'm really looking forward to.

So, I got a PS3 last weekend. I have to say that I'm WAY more happy with the PS3 than the 360. First of all, the menu screen on the PS3 is 100 times easier, faster, and more innovative than the menu screen(s) on the 360. On the PS3, all you have to do is push the d-pad until you get to whatever menu you want, then just push the d-pad up or down until you get to whatever submenu you want, and push (x). You don't have to physically go into a crapload of different screens like on the 360. To get out of the submenu, all you have to do is push left on the d-pad.

More things that I love about the PS3: Being able to download software updates for the console, the SD Card reader, USB keyboard support, the front loading disk drive, the Blu-Ray player, the fact that you can quit a game or demo and change other settings simply be pressing the PS button anytime during gameplay, the smaller disk cases, and the fact that there will be more variety of games and a larger library than the 360. The only thing I don't like about the PS3 is the L2 / R2 buttons on the controler. It feels like my fingers are going to slip off the triggers because they are so awkward. For driving games, I have to use the face buttons for the gas and brake because using the triggers sucks. I wish they had kept the shoulder buttons they way they were and just made them pressure sensitive.

As of now, the ONLY reason why I'm keeping my 360 is Banjo Kazooie 3.

The End.

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#49 yixingtpot
Member since 2005 • 1484 Posts

Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

sabbath420
**************** you are complete tool, a little limp noodle tool... your XBOX2 was made in CHINA, just like most future PS3s will be made in CHINA. you are also a sore loser, HOME and the PS3 will rule over your short sighted BS. the JAPANESE INVENTED THE MODERN CONSOLE GAMING CRAZE, not microsoft, they had their way by default/WINDOWS OS ruling the PC gaming for years and what have they given you? nothing but poop on a stick games. nothing worth mentioning compared to the Japanese gaming scene. you are an idiot.
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#50 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="sabbath420"]

Well here is my recent take on sony's ps3 and online network so far.

First off, I am very disappointed in sony and the people that are buying the latest entertainment system/(hype system) from them. First off, sony is Japan based and MS is American based. And yes I realize components are not all made in the specified locations. I am an American and would like to support ideas that come from my homeland. There are so few to praise in the electronics market.

Second, sony has made and continues to make so many false promises to all parties involved with them. Shoving a blue ray player in every console they make? How many gamers actually need 1? Having the "power" to surf the internet at a snails pace. Most people have a pc, especially the ones that can afford a ps3. Memory card readers? Wow now that's advanced tech. why wastes the time when there are usb slots? Are the graphics more advanced than the competition? Not that can be seen yet. How's the music player and the way it interacts with games and other operating functions of the system? Downloads? Hmmmm. I thought the cell processor was all powerful! It can't seem to handle more than 1 task at a time. Can't download while playing games or doing anything else. And so on.

How about that playstation network? You would think with a whole year of delays they could have put a bit more thought into it. You know they have been thinking about it since MS came out with XBOXLIVE and this is all they can muster up. Too much blue ray and not enough game system. Sony once said things like 4D, play b3yond, the next gen don't start till we say. Well after an extra year and a extremely high price tag one would expect those statements to be somewhat true. Liers.

Now I may sound like a fanboy to some, and maybe I have become one to an extent but, I just love to play video games. In my gaming life I have owned every major console in the market starting with the Atari2600. But I have yet to see any overwhelming reason to buy a ps3/slow computer.

yixingtpot

**************** you are complete tool, a little limp noodle tool... your XBOX2 was made in CHINA, just like most future PS3s will be made in CHINA. you are also a sore loser, HOME and the PS3 will rule over your short sighted BS. the JAPANESE INVENTED THE MODERN CONSOLE GAMING CRAZE, not microsoft, they had their way by default/WINDOWS OS ruling the PC gaming for years and what have they given you? nothing but poop on a stick games. nothing worth mentioning compared to the Japanese gaming scene. you are an idiot.

Bravo....well said. Another little fact that I think he obviously is oblivious to, is that it was a little Japanese company called SEGA who started online gaming for consoles with a little misunderstood and underappreciated system called the Dreamcast. Gee, I guess that makes Xbox live a blatant rip-off of SEGANET if I have ever seen one. Even if it is better, the idea was still STOLEN FROM THE JAPANESE, regardless.

In summary and my point being, Microsoft outrightly STOLE Japanese innovations and implemented them into what is now the Xbox and Xbox live. Not only is most of the hardware in the Xbox Japanese/Asian, but all of the ideas behind it's design, function and GAMES are at least in part or in the majority Japanese or Asian ideas and innovations as well.

So much for "leaving Sony to Japan", aye? See, you are a fan of Japanese innovations already, and you did not even know it, lol. How does that make you feel now, Mr. "Captain America"? :P