NEW info on the 65nm Cell.

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#1 machoa14
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Yes we all know it saves heat, we all know it is cheaper $50-75, yes we all know it is more effective, yes we all know it is good news... but what you may not know is that due to all of the above it is capable of higher resolutions over 1080p, way higher. It can handle more information. I also know that is going into every PS3 after March. Does this mean the PS3 will be better... yes and no. It will function the same just be less prone to breaking and a lot cooler. It will also be lighter. It will not have better graphics. How do I know this... I had a long talk with one of my best friend's dad who makes the Cell at IBM. This is not BS. Do not fret current PS3 owners (me included) there is a way to get the new cell on your PS3, well sort of... If we all write a letter to Sony when your PS3 "breaks down" (insert sarcasm) or breaks down (and it will) simply say that you want the new Cell installed and are willing to pay a fee for this replacement. Why would Sony do this... because every PS3 they don't have to fix saves them money so why not install a better chip that is more durable and avoids future returns. (Note: the first 5.5 lines of this post are fact the rest is my opinion). You can take this as good news or bad news.
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#2 xxgunslingerxx
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i think we all already knew this
they did the same with the ps2 and im ps1
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#3 nanomecha4
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OLD as Hillary Clintons nana
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#4 machoa14
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Really? O' well it's new to me... my bad I didn't see this in any article... I will do more research next time.
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#5 GIJames248
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I'm sorry. I find it hard to believe that removing milligrams of the processor die is going to decrease much weight in the PS3 (they could remove cooling equipment but that would be a whole hardware revision like the PStwo). Also there is no way Sony is going to replace or even upgrade consoles that aren't broken just because they have a chip that is cheaper and cooler.
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#6 speedracer15
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its news to me!....im waiting till summer anyway before i buy mine.
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#7 WARRZONE
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Yeah, it's old news. I don't think it matters anyway. All the PS3s will have the same functionality. The only thing that matters is that Sony will not lose as much money, and the price on the current PS3s might go down, which will open up room for more people to buy one.
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#8 dunamistheou
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lol, a die shrink for the CPU isn't going to increase resolution :P The bottleneck would still be the RSX (7800gtx at best)
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Yes we all know it saves heat, we all know it is cheaper $50-75, yes we all know it is more effective, yes we all know it is good news... but what you may not know is that due to all of the above it is capable of higher resolutions over 1080p, way higher. It can handle more information. I also know that is going into every PS3 after March. Does this mean the PS3 will be better... yes and no. It will function the same just be less prone to breaking and a lot cooler. It will also be lighter. It will not have better graphics. How do I know this... I had a long talk with one of my best friend's dad who makes the Cell at IBM. This is not BS. Do not fret current PS3 owners (me included) there is a way to get the new cell on your PS3, well sort of... If we all write a letter to Sony when your PS3 "breaks down" (insert sarcasm) or breaks down (and it will) simply say that you want the new Cell installed and are willing to pay a fee for this replacement. Why would Sony do this... because every PS3 they don't have to fix saves them money so why not install a better chip that is more durable and avoids future returns. (Note: the first 5.5 lines of this post are fact the rest is my opinion). You can take this as good news or bad news.
machoa14

I was considering believing everything you said, untill you said that the new processor will make the PS3 lighter.  That it will not do.  Though there is truth in alot of what you say, I have to reserve judgement untill more is divulged by sony.  Sorry.

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#10 machoa14
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ok so the whole lighter thing is since the 65nm Cell is cooler it needs less internals to keep the system cooler. So I am not saying something as drastic as the Fat PS2 to Slim PS2 but it would mean about a 1-2 pound loss. Also I underlined capable and can for a reason. The current Cell can only handle 1080p but the new chip can handle not that it will because you would need a better graphics chip but the point is it will have the ability. Study English more, I only confirmed it has the ability. The reason I stated the whole replacement thing was because when I sent my fat PS2 to Sony for a new one I got the anorexic one. Will this hold true for the PS3 probably not but I will try. Wow I sound very defensive... please do not take it that way.
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#11 teebeenz
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There will be no speed boost for the PS3s cells tho other users can benefit from an optional increased speed.
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The new chip will not be any more powerful than the old one, just smaller.  Could the slim ps2 produce resolutions higher than the fat ps2? I didn't think so.
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#13 choasgod
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Use of the New 65nm Cell has already began ...

  The new Cell is cool and therfore its likly that SONY reduced the heatsinks around the CPU ( dosnt need em so big ) ...

  Other than that PS3 will be the same ...
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#14 AgentH
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Use of the New 65nm Cell has already began ...

  The new Cell is cool and therfore its likly that SONY reduced the heatsinks around the CPU ( dosnt need em so big ) ...

  Other than that PS3 will be the same ...
choasgod

could it be included in the european launch? I hope so.

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Use of the New 65nm Cell has already began ...

The new Cell is cool and therfore its likly that SONY reduced the heatsinks around the CPU ( dosnt need em so big ) ...

Other than that PS3 will be the same ...
choasgod


they may not remember the fan cools down the gpu also.
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#16 Timstuff
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This is good news for gamers in that Sony is one step closer to being able to lower the PS3's MSRP.
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#17 nanomecha4
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This is good news for gamers in that Sony is one step closer to being able to lower the PS3's MSRP.Timstuff
You will have to wait for 2009.
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#18 bob_dartagnan
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What changing the internal processor isn't going to improve the graphics? NO WAY! :roll:

So instead of thinking we are all idiots why dont you go pump your "friends dad" on when Sony will actually start putting the 65nm Cells into the  PS3s.

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#19 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]This is good news for gamers in that Sony is one step closer to being able to lower the PS3's MSRP.nanomecha4
You will have to wait for 2009.

I highly doubt Sony will try their luck at $500 for too much longer. I wouldn't be surprised if they slashed the price by $50 this fall, or even by $100 for Christmas '08.
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#20 teebeenz
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You will have to wait for 2009.nanomecha4
Actualy sony tends to do price drops 18months in, but you can expect an earlyer drop this time round as the new revision comes out.
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#21 kb8618
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Yes we all know it saves heat, we all know it is cheaper $50-75, yes we all know it is more effective, yes we all know it is good news... but what you may not know is that due to all of the above it is capable of higher resolutions over 1080p, way higher. It can handle more information. I also know that is going into every PS3 after March. Does this mean the PS3 will be better... yes and no. It will function the same just be less prone to breaking and a lot cooler. It will also be lighter. It will not have better graphics. How do I know this... I had a long talk with one of my best friend's dad who makes the Cell at IBM. This is not BS. Do not fret current PS3 owners (me included) there is a way to get the new cell on your PS3, well sort of... If we all write a letter to Sony when your PS3 "breaks down" (insert sarcasm) or breaks down (and it will) simply say that you want the new Cell installed and are willing to pay a fee for this replacement. Why would Sony do this... because every PS3 they don't have to fix saves them money so why not install a better chip that is more durable and avoids future returns. (Note: the first 5.5 lines of this post are fact the rest is my opinion). You can take this as good news or bad news.
machoa14
Soo, how much watts will the new 65nm chip use
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#22 b11051973
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The PS2 waited 18 months for first price cut last time because they were easily in first place AND the thing only cost $300. If the PS3 cost $300 or even $400, they wouldn't be talking about a price cut. A new Cell does not mean higher resolution. The PS3 could do a higher resolution right now if it was built for it. Of course, anytime you up the resolution, frame rate and effects go down. Just like going from 720p to 1080p.
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#23 trudefisk
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is those new ps3:s shippng to the EU launch??