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#1 Wabbit5
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will all the people who thought it was onlythat one game forfor june 11 please shut up

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/News-44555.aspx

Sony's Other Games Division Makes Push in New Direction

  • By SETH SCHIESEL Published: June 11, 2007

Sony has a long and colorful history of failure on the Internet. But there has been a bright spot, one Sony operation - Sony Online Entertainment, based in San Diego - has built a legitimately innovative and successful Internet business.

Think of it as Sony's other video game operation. The ups and downs of the company's famous PlayStation division are well known, as it struggles to maintain its dominance in home consoles over Microsoft and Nintendo. But tucked within the relative obscurity of Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment, the online entertainment unit has grown into a profitable business with revenue in the $150 million range (the company does not break out exact results for the division) by creating and publishing a variety of subscription-based online computer games.

The problem is that the company's first huge hit - EverQuest, released in 1999 - remains its only genuine blockbuster, with around 250,000 users. (The company used to report subscriber figures, but stopped a few years ago.) A competing online game, World of Warcraft, made by Blizzard Entertainment, of Irvine, Calif., has, meanwhile, practically reshaped the game industry by attracting an enormous eight million paying users around the world.

So today, Sony Online intends to unveil its plan to retake leadership in online gaming by unveiling three new games in development. More broadly, the new games represent an attempt to broaden the company in four major ways: diversifying its business model, expanding the demographic profile of its customer base, moving into the console market in addition to making games for PCs and increasing its presence in Asia.

"Right now our revenue is almost all subscriptions," John Smedley, the unit's president, said in an interview. "In two years, we would like to see no more than 50 percent of our revenue coming from subscriptions, and five years from now we think less than 10 percent of our revenue will come from subscription sources."

At the same time, Mr. Smedley said he wanted to diversify his customer base, which is 85 percent male and 32 years old, on average. Women have become the major driver of the casual games business (games like Bejeweled and Bookworm), and Mr. Smedley wants a piece of that action.

"We want to get our average age lower, probably into the low 20s, and I'd really like to see the gender breakdown go to 50-50 or even slightly more women than men, to reflect real life," he said.

Sony Online's new direction can perhaps be seen most clearly in a game the company intends to announce today called Free Realms.

In general, Mr. Smedley wants to replace subscriptions with a combination of microtransactions, advertising and what he calls the "velvet rope" approach. All three concepts may come to bear in Free Realms, which the company hopes to release on PCs this coming winter and on the PlayStation 3 next summer.

While the company's traditional fantasy and science-fiction games have been aimed at a hard-core male audience, Free Realms is basically aimed at children, especially girls. The game will be free to play in general, but will require paid membership for access to special zones and activities (hence the term "velvet rope"). In terms of microtransactions, players will be able to buy virtual in-game items like pets and clothing à la carte. And there may also be advertising inside the game.

To reach out to girls, Mr. Smedley realized he had to hire more women. The creative director and art director on the game are now women.

"I just can't explain to a 30-year-old single male why 10-year-old girls like horses," he said. "We were trying to figure out what pets to put into Free Realms and before, the lead designer was a guy and he definitely wanted things that could fight. And when we got more women on the team, it was like 'No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.' "

The company also recognizes that among hard-core gamers there is a bit of fatigue with the elves, dwarves and orcs that seem to populate the dozens of fantasy-based online games. So in its first game for the PlayStation 3, called The Agency and due next summer, Sony Online is branching out into a relatively untapped genre for online games: spies and commandos.

"Think of it as '24' meets Counter-Strike meets 'Alias' meets James Bond," Mr. Smedley said.

His boss, Yair Landau, vice chairman of Sony Pictures and president of Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment, said: "We are clearly moving beyond men in tights with broadswords. Women in cocktail dresses and stilettos and men in tuxedos with silencers is a very natural place for Sony Online to be expanding."

Another natural place for Sony Online to expand is Asia. Online PC gaming (as opposed to consoles plugged into televisions) has become the main form of gaming across Asia outside Japan, especially in China and South Korea. In fact, World of Warcraft has more subscribers in China than in the United States. Sony Online, however, has had practically no presence in Asia, primarily because EverQuest just does not appeal to Asian gaming tastes.

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#2 tyler2010
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I just can't wait for tomorrow to end all of this....
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#3 foxbait95
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SOOO? Is that what they are gonna do i wonder , is announce a couple mmo type games and call it a day? I guess we will see.
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#4 loady
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Thanks for clearing it up
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#5 GarchomPro
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Sum it up any1?
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#6 Blanco98
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Too lazy to read.....its probably about the Agency which i cant wait to see gameplay of!!
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#7 2v2nr20
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Sum it up any1?GarchomPro
2 MMO's, The Agency, and Free Realms. Free Realms aimed towards toward children, girls in particular.
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#8 -Ven-
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Sum it up any1?GarchomPro
" So today(June 11th), Sony Online intends to unveil its plan to retake leadership in online gaming by unveiling three new games in development. More broadly, the new games represent an attempt to broaden the company in four major ways: diversifying its business model, expanding the demographic profile of its customer base, moving into the console market in addition to making games for PCs and increasing its presence in Asia."

Click the link..

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#9 Wabbit5
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is Planetside a mmo, if so "ITS ABOUT DAM TIME" they made the game for PS3
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#10 junk56
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....i thought it was gonna be something big.

Doesn't interest me. I never liked any MMO's other than WoW nways.

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#11 zidanem9c
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Ugh ... that's it?? New MMOs? I was hoping they would announce a patch to transform our PS3s into a robot that has GPS unit, an alarm, and a satellite radio. (Weapons upgrade should be the follow up patch)
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#12 diggyzoom
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Summary - Free Realms (a game aimed at girls)

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#13 SikKwuN
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i read the word subscription (pay), and got discouraged and stopped reading. i think i read it out of context.
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#15 Dogswithguns
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I love MMOs cant get enough.something anything thatbetter than WoW.

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#16 Serrimnon
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The Agency looks pretty cool.
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#17 mikeslemonade
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The main game in our demographic is still the Agency which slated for a winter release. The other is a girl game that is intended for us and the other game isn't coming in until next year don't expect that much details. Agency will be the main hyped game for tommorow.
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#18 finalfantasy94
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IF its pay (monthly fee) Then I aint buying. Thats why the only mmo i played was guild wars.
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#19 Jamh83
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So what's the 3rd game? They only mention 2 and neither one is coming to the PS3 this year.
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#20 diggyzoom
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So what's the 3rd game? They only mention 2 and neither one is coming to the PS3 this year.Jamh83
The other one must be a WoW killer for the Asian market.

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#21 k2dart2k
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The Agency sounds very promising. I cant wait to see some stuff on it tomorrow.
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#22 Hive7311
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Thats it!? What the crap! I was expecting something GOOD to happen tomorrow.
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#23 k2dart2k
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Thats it!? What the crap! I was expecting something GOOD to happen tomorrow.Hive7311

This source is saying multiple games will be announced. Whats so wrong with that? Everyone is clamoring for exlusives and here there likely will be some and everyone is complaining. Sheesh, what were you people expecting?

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#24 WongB
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It was said in the article that the MMO would be free to play. But to gain access to extra areas and content, you would have to pay a subscription fee. So it seems that there are two choices for you to take.

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#25 justin_06
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Free online play hopefully. if not, GW FTW! haha
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#26 gamer082009
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OMG....if Sony thinks this is what it takes to win against Microsof they'vegot another thing coming. ARE YOU SERIOUS? This is the "bignews"...LOL...this better not be it...or us PS3 owners are gonna suffer even more. How is this big news? Their making a game where it consist of charging you for silly little items and extra areas (sounds like a gimick)..thank god I got a 360 too. They need to spend more time on getting us some half decent games that validates the reason for purchasing a $600 console!
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OMG....if Sony thinks this is what it takes to win against Microsoftthey have another thing coming. ARE YOU SERIOUS? This is the"bignews"...LOL...this better not be it...or us PS3 owners are gonna suffer even more. How is this big news? Their making a game whereit consist of charging you for silly little items..thank god I got a 360 too! They need to spend more time on getting us some half decent games that validates the reason forpurchasinga $600 console!gamer082009

WTH is up with this meme.

Sony didn't hype this date, it was some low level guy in the company that made a minor comment that he was excited about the 11th and somehow this is the biggest news EVAR!!11! And now everyone is whining about it....again I ask you what you were expecting in reality... these complaints are mindless...

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#28 finalfantasy94
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It was said in the article that the MMO would be free to play. But to gain access to extra areas and content, you would have to pay a subscription fee. So it seems that there are two choices for you to take.

WongB

ooooooooookkkkkkkkkkk? This sounds like they are going to give you little to do unless you pay a monthly fee which would suck.

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OMG....if Sony thinks this is what it takes to win against Microsof they'vegot another thing coming. ARE YOU SERIOUS? This is the "bignews"...LOL...this better not be it...or us PS3 owners are gonna suffer even more. How is this big news? Their making a game where it consist of charging you for silly little items and extra areas (sounds like a gimick)..thank god I got a 360 too. They need to spend more time on getting us some half decent games that validates the reason for purchasing a $600 console!gamer082009

Atleast we didn't annouce a stupid game called Pacman Championship and claim it was BIG. I doubt you have a PS3 anyway. Also it's unreasonable to expect all the top games to come out right now afterall they are supposed to be next-gen games that take a long development time. The top games are coming out late Q2, Q3, Q4, and beyond so shut your sarcastic remarks up.

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#30 xxgunslingerxx
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....i thought it was gonna be something big.

Doesn't interest me. I never liked any MMO's other than WoW nways.

junk56

i kinda have to agree... i dont see why that would make 360 users envy the ps3

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#31 Pablo620
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If the big announcement was a MMO aimed at children and girls im going to be pissed
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#32 Vojkan80001
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"]QUOTE]

WTH is up with this meme.

Sony didn't hype this date, it was some low level guy in the company that made a minor comment that he was excited about the 11th and somehow this is the biggest news EVAR!!11! And now everyone is whining about it....again I ask you what you were expecting in reality... these complaints are mindless...

k2dart2k

This is what i predicted yesterday. I was 100% on the spot.

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If the big announcement was a MMO aimed at children and girls im going to be pissedPablo620

Do you people miss part of brain or what? Who hyped this and called it "big"? Who? Aha some podcast guys that have nothing to do with Sony, but hey lets be disappointed with no reason what so ever!

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#34 Mizuke
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So, in order to enjoy the entirety of the game -- which has no monthly fee -- you will need to make microtransactions. *groan*

I wouldn't mind if they ONLY said some "content" (I assume items or something along those lines) will be available to people who pay a bit extra, but "extra areas" as well? Colour me unhappy.

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#35 Vojkan80001
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So, in order to enjoy the entirety of the game -- which has no monthly fee -- you will need to make microtransactions. *groan*

I wouldn't mind if they ONLY said some "content" (I assume items or something along those lines) will be available to people who pay a bit extra, but "extra areas" as well? Colour me unhappy.

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Do you know what secret is? NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO LIKE IT OR PLAY IT! If it is to expensive for you than move on.
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#36 Mizuke
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[QUOTE="Mizuke"]

So, in order to enjoy the entirety of the game -- which has no monthly fee -- you will need to make microtransactions. *groan*

I wouldn't mind if they ONLY said some "content" (I assume items or something along those lines) will be available to people who pay a bit extra, but "extra areas" as well? Colour me unhappy.

Vojkan80001

Do you know what secret is? NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO LIKE IT OR PLAY IT! If it is to expensive for you than move on.

o.O! Don't yell at me. :P

I was just voicing my opinion on microtransactions, but I understand and in no way question it if people are all for them.

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#37 Pablo620
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[QUOTE="Pablo620"]If the big announcement was a MMO aimed at children and girls im going to be pissedVojkan80001

Do you people miss part of brain or what? Who hyped this and called it "big"? Who? Aha some podcast guys that have nothing to do with Sony, but hey lets be disappointed with no reason what so ever!

How often are any announcements made like this. Yeah myabe big wasnt the word, Home announcement was big. I dont expect something like that but im looking to see a new game announced that actually will carry some hype or excitement...not a MMO for kids. So yeah as i wrote this most of my brain was still thinking about the Chemistry and Society lab report I just finished doing maybe thats why it was missing

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#38 DARKCHOAS
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YAWN. If this is the big announcement then.....whatever. Some people will love it ,and some won't. I just welcome more good games for the system. I think all the biggest news will come a month from now at E3. I'll hold allmy excitement until then.
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#39 k2dart2k
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Pablo, I really doubt its for kids. I would assume The Agency will be rated M.
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#40 Pablo620
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Pablo, I really doubt its for kids. I would assume The Agency will be rated M.k2dart2k

Please read the original post before correcting me. Its not about The Agency its about a game with ponies and puppies. Read it

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#41 achillizuk1
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sowhat about the 'xbox can only dream of' comment ?:)
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#42 Pablo620
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sowhat about the 'xbox can only dream of' comment ?:)achillizuk1

An MMO that only requires one monthly fee. Thats something 360ers can only dream of

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#43 k2dart2k
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[QUOTE="k2dart2k"]Pablo, I really doubt its for kids. I would assume The Agency will be rated M.Pablo620

Please read the original post before correcting me. Its not about The Agency its about a game with ponies and puppies. Read it

Ok, but do you really think the hype was about that game? It was probably about The Agency (on unreal 3 engine!) or the third game that wasn't elaborated on in the article at all. The hype was not referring to the ponies game man, lol.

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#44 mikeslemonade
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I doubt this is the third game but could the DC comics universe be the third game? It's suppose to have asian appeal, but DC comics isn't it.
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#45 Pablo620
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[QUOTE="Pablo620"]

[QUOTE="k2dart2k"]Pablo, I really doubt its for kids. I would assume The Agency will be rated M.k2dart2k

Please read the original post before correcting me. Its not about The Agency its about a game with ponies and puppies. Read it

Ok, but do you really think the hype was about that game? It was probably about The Agency (on unreal 3 engine!) or the third game that wasn't elaborated on in the article at all. The hype was not referring to the ponies game man, lol.

Thats why i said, if its about this game for kids ill be pissed. It has happened before. Not that an announcement turned out to be a game for kids but that an announcement has turned out to be nothing new. Im just hoping it isnt what this article says it is

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#46 heyheydoh
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I read that this June 11th thing was going to make 360 fanboys wish they had a PS3..........2 dumb MMO's are going to make this happen? We don't need any more MMO's. MMO's are stupid anyway. And there's too many of these things!!!

EDIT: I just hope those MMO's aren't the only things for June 11th...

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#47 Knivez0r
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PONIES! YES!!!! AW MAN I CANT BELIEVE IT!! FRIGGIN' PONIES!! - dies of excitement. -

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#48 hawk5377
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So it was no news os any great interest after all.

Thay are clutching at straws to make the PS3 look interesting at the moment.

I do feel sorry for them as I also have had a 360 from the start and after an initial play for a few months i found that like the PS3 is now I never turned it on and there was no games and nothing new in the Marketplace.

The 360 had no competion of course so this all did not seem to be highlighted like it is for Sony.

We forget how great it was to see Hidef gaming for the first time and that kind of made up for the lack of content but the PS3 coming late to the party and having nothing to offer makes it seem even worse.

It also amarts when just as the PS3 came out i would say the 360 has really got into its stride.

The PS3 will come good one day but I fear it is a good few months yet.

The lack of exclusive games is not a problem as long as they can convince the developers to make the PS3 the lead console it is desined for and not the 360, as it is at present.

I own both consoiles and so want to play which ever game looks the best of the two versions but the lack of the PS3 being the lead platform really shows at present on all 360 and PS3 releases.

The PS2 was not troubled by the fact that the old Xbox games looked better than the PS2 versions but it had such a huge fan base established it did not matter but this time the boot is on the other foot.

If I was them I would keep my head down until I really had something to shout about, otherwise it just highlights the lack of games and content and the disappoitment spread by announcements like this that amount to nothing is not helping them.

Come on Sony, i have faith in you to deliver in the end.

Nick

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#49 Maverick128
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If I was them I would keep my head down until I really had something to shout about, otherwise it just highlights the lack of games and content and the disappoitment spread by announcements like this that amount to nothing is not helping them.

Nick

hawk5377

See, this is what we were worried about. SONY NEVER SAID THEY WERE MAKING A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. It was a blog from some website called allgames or something. DON'T blame Sony if the announcement didn't live up to your expectations.

As far as having games, there are more on the PS3 right now and coming soon that I care about than on that "other" system. It's all personal preference.

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#50 bitedcurbnow
Member since 2004 • 1065 Posts

[QUOTE="k2dart2k"]Pablo, I really doubt its for kids. I would assume The Agency will be rated M.Pablo620

Please read the original post before correcting me. Its not about The Agency its about a game with ponies and puppies. Read it

True dat. This "Agency" game is hardly news. People have known about this game for quite some time. I'm really failing tosee howan MMO for young girls is such an earth-shattering announcement. But I guess you can't believe everything you read.