Ninja Gaiden Sigma blows.. Heavenly Sword rulez

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#1 abudjasim
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I was just wondering whats so great about NGS... Its kinda like having a hot girlfriend.. but she has no soul :|

The graphics are not bad, but the story is terrible! The character models are like crap. Ryu's body looks like a moving plastic action-figure. The voice acting totally S***s A$$. The combat system has no depth at all, you can basically finish off every single enemy the same way with the same combo. And dont get me started on the platforming, its way too lame. So why is everybody liking it so much anyway?!? I cant believe it got a 9.3 from IGN. I wouldnt give it more than an 8.

If you compare it to Heavenly Sword, you'll notice its waaaaay better in every aspect. Nariko looks great and so are the graphics. The sound in the background is very nice and creates the right vibe for the game The story is awesome, with some amazing acting. The enemy AI changes as you play.. I've noticed that the enemies get harder if you kill more of them. The combo's (specially the arial ones) look great because of the scenematic effect it uses. The counter animations, the special moves, its all way better. Who's with me on this?

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#2 Flame_Blade88
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I'd take NGS over HS anyday.
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#3 chewy130
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hs isnt even out. i bet it;ll suck anyways
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#4 RotaryRX7
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I'd take NGS over HS anyday.Flame_Blade88

Agree.

The controls in NGS are smooth and perfect. HS feels sluggish and lame, not to mention there's no block, and she only does like 4 different moves, it's annoying to play.

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#6 Flame_Blade88
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I'd take NGS over HS anyday.RotaryRX7

Agree.

The controls in NGS are smooth and perfect. HS feels sluggish and lame, not to mention there's no block, and she only does like 4 different moves, it's annoying to play.

Not to mention I'd rather JUMP and slice anemies heads off and look awesome in doing it.

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#7 Squall_Griver
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I think half the people who say HS sucked is because they button mashed :(
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#8 abudjasim
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I'd take NGS over HS anyday.RotaryRX7

Agree.

The controls in NGS are smooth and perfect. HS feels sluggish and lame, not to mention there's no block, and she only does like 4 different moves, it's annoying to play.

She has way more moves than you think. Try learning the regular combo's/ arial combo's/ combo's after countering. And theres no block?!? Gimme a break.

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#9 vegetattack15
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I don't think NGS blows, but I think Heavenly Sword will be a much better game. So, to the earlier post, I must be a moron, because I have a different opinion.
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#10 clarkportmanken
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Personally i don't like either of them but thats just my opinion just not my type of game but i will say that they are different games so i don't know why people are trying to compare the two.

people should stop being so easily offended because they end up bashing games for no reason lol.

if you like the game get it if you don't no ones making you buy it. everyone has a right to express there opinions but you must also respect other peoples opinions as well

theres no absolute fun game that everyone will like its all subjective.

also just because people don't like the combat system doesn't mean they are button mashers. its just a game designed for fun don't take frivolous things so seriously

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#11 batman_owns
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ngs
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#12 ginglejangle
Member since 2007 • 3171 Posts

both games rule.

and your negative comments on ninja gaiden are false.

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#13 bunchofpixels
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma has nice graphics. If I have any complaint it would be the background graphics, definately not the character models. The controls and camera are perfect.

Heavenly Sword doesnt look like its as excellent, but definately AAA potential.

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#14 watdahello
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I'd take NGS over HS anyday.RotaryRX7

Agree.

The controls in NGS are smooth and perfect. HS feels sluggish and lame, not to mention there's no block, and she only does like 4 different moves, it's annoying to play.

dude!!!!! THERE IS A BLOCK ON HS!!!!!! the BLOCK is AUTOMATIC!!!!!! if u don attck the enemies NARIKO blocks their attcks!!!!!!

gosh~some ppl still dont know that??

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#15 azzezino
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I like both. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a great game and I fell in love with Nariko once upon a demo.....
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#16 Flavante
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Both are good. I played the Heavenly Sword demo and found it quite fun. But it doesn't go no where near the greatness of Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Plusto think that you are comparing a 3 year old game with a next gen game is nonsense. Wait till Ninja Gaiden 2 comes out, then we can compare the 2 titles on the same level.
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#17 donnygorgas
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I really like NGS. I haven't played Heavenly Sword except the demo so I can't really pass judgment on the game yet. I do think it will be fun.
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#18 Vyse_Legends
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You know what has never made sense to me about these threads? That they all compare a game "that is not out" vs. a "game that is out". And if you are comparing the "demo" toa "completed game" why? And if you can't see what I am getting at I am saying that once the game comes out compare it but don't compare a 5 minute "demo" to a 10-15 "completed game".

Oh and Ninja Gaiden doesnt blow it's awesome. Me I can't wait for Heavenly Sword.

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#19 jdang307
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I can't comment on HS, since I haven't played it yet (it looks good though) but I agree with the OP about NGS, lucky I only rent games, and NGS I returned right away, it was so boring to me. You guys obviously liked it, but boring to me. And I was excited about it too.
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#20 Redfingers
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I dislike NGS, and I'm preferring HS' combo system. We'll have to see how it comes out when they're both released.

I agree that NG was horribly, horribly overrated, though.

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#21 KurupSoldr
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I am lost how you compare an actual released game to a Demo of a game, NGS is awesome game and i think HS will be too they both offer omething the othe doesnt so
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#22 barom
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NGS is cool though I agree the story is bad it's as good as a hack and slash game can be imo (people complain about camera but I dont really know how they can improve that). I checked the HS demo a couple of times after people were saying how you should learn to counter and aerial combos and stuff like that, in the end countering was quite fun but the aerial combos pissed me off.. what the heck hold L1 and press Triangle and then shake controller and then hold R1 and press a few buttons. That's just too confusing to me, they're not even clear when I was suppose to to that (while in air or while on the ground?). I became tired after spending 20 min trying to figure it out (yes it was tiring). Though HS felt kinda good it's not near were NGS is. I guess for me it's a lot about the controls.
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#23 kenshinhimura16
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I sold my PS3 just when I got NGS so I havent played it much. And HS is not even out yet so I cant be fair in making a judgement. So I will have to wait till the 80 gig arrives home to give an opinion on NGS and wait to HS to compare them
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#24 Lividrecca
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NGS wasn't that good. The combat was nice however the camera limited my gameplay experience. NGS is too much, wait -> block -> attack and the attacks are OK nothing fancy nothing special nothing awesome looking.

Heavenly Sword plays better imo. Way better graphics better lead character and way better story and no annoying enemies like the ghost fishies in NGS in the last 2 chapters which were completely lame.

NGS = 6 Heavenly Sword = 8 atleast, ill be guessing the full game is about a 9+

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#25 davedouble16
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Heavenly Sword
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#26 Redfingers
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NGS is cool though I agree the story is bad it's as good as a hack and slash game can be imo (people complain about camera but I dont really know how they can improve that). I checked the HS demo a couple of times after people were saying how you should learn to counter and aerial combos and stuff like that, in the end countering was quite fun but the aerial combos pissed me off.. what the heck hold L1 and press Triangle and then shake controller and then hold R1 and press a few buttons. That's just too confusing to me, they're not even clear when I was suppose to to that (while in air or while on the ground?). I became tired after spending 20 min trying to figure it out (yes it was tiring). Though HS felt kinda good it's not near were NGS is. I guess for me it's a lot about the controls.barom

The camera in Heavenly Sword and God of War1/2 are fixed, and yet they cause 0 issues.

I resolve that the camera in NG remain fixed while the dodge button is relocated to the right analog, and Tecmo sets up cinematic camera angles that resolve the "Ninja ass" issues and give you a good view of the combat. It should be fairly mobile, keep up to pace with the action, and not throw you into corners like the camera now does.

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#27 bboycookie2
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i say NGS is better for one your a F&#$(ing NINJA!!!!! And i love slicing heads off
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#28 treelog187
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TC never played Ninja Gaiden FTW!

Seriously I can agree with you on the story and thats about it, which im sure you heard someone else say it and thats how you came to your conclusion. I was really hyped for HS until the demo. Played it once and thought it was awful. Played it ten more times to make sure I was right and found it to be OK once I learned everything the demo has to offer. Still though, Ninja Gaiden outclasses HS on almost every aspect: Graphics, framerate, animations, AI, camera, battle system. The only advantage I gathered from the HS demo was facial animations.So all that leaves to the imagination is that HS might (and should) have a better story and level design. Keep in mind that in this stage of developement all the aspects that I mentioned as being subpar to Ninja Gaiden wont undergo any major changes before release. Hope you enjoy HS, but its gonna be a weekend rental for me.:)

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#29 kevy619
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Ninja Gaiden is awesome, no comment on Heavenly Sword...
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#30 FatBoyNotSlim
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[QUOTE="Flame_Blade88"]I'd take NGS over HS anyday.RotaryRX7

Agree.

The controls in NGS are smooth and perfect. HS feels sluggish and lame, not to mention there's no block, and she only does like 4 different moves, it's annoying to play.

You block by not attacking and being in the correct stance, and there's WAY more than 4 moves, but I bet you never even played it.

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#31 snipe2004
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is it terrible if i like both games?? i think HS will be awesome and has AAA potential
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#32 v61k
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the gameplay in sigma is amazing.

the main issue i had with HS demo was the framerate.
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#33 treelog187
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^Absolutely not. If you enjoy both games thats great. Its the TCs Ninja Gaiden blows...has poor graphics...shallow combat type comments that flushed his credibility down the toilet, especially when NG has proved over the years to be one of the greatest action titles out there. I'm sure you can find a similar quote in any review of any version. So far I find most aspects of NGS better, but thats not to say HS wont be great. They're really too different to compare and the TC was foolish enough to compare the wrong aspects. I guess thats what happens when you talk trash about a game you never even played TC.

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#34 sgallag_play
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Heavenly Sword better and its not a cheap Port and it looks better
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#35 treelog187
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My last post was for snipe

and lol & sgallag for showing off his amazing ignorance.

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#36 junk56
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ive had a lot of fun playing both. stop naysaying either of them because both of them are awesome hack and slash games. NGS needs a LOT more skill and dedication but heavenly sword is just so much fun to play and nariko looks so damn awesome no matter what moves she pulls off.
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#37 Quadrifoglio
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I don't like NGS either. The controls feel so slippery, and the graphics are crap! I can understand why people like it though.

I'd give it a 6.6.

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#38 TOTAL_DEFENSE_0
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gameplay wise, i saw Ninja Gaiden Sigma (or Black or the original for that matter) blows God of War and Heavenly Sword out of the water. Story/character/voice acting wise, HS and GoW destroy NGS. However, i like Ninja Gaiden more just cuz its so damn fun.

My vote goes to NGS.

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#39 AFK4Lifez
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Even though this debate is illogical because HS has not even been released yet. Comparing what i've seen in the demo to what I've seen in NGS.

I find that NGS is a much better game. HS seemed very shallow and boring in the demo, there wasn't much to gawk at except the good visuals; although, I'm not sure you can call that gawking since i noticed a severe hit in the frame rate. (Especially at the beginning.)

Although I will just have to wait to see how the final game of Heavenly Sword ends up, at the moment Ninja Gaiden Sigma wins by a longshot.

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#40 Imallvol7
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i like NGS and xbox fans really liked it back in the day, but i didn't like it that much.
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#41 Denji
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My opinion, NGS kills HS. I think this game was mostly hype more than anything. The controls are TERRIBLE, the combat alone is a chore and every button is out of the way. No block or jump buttons. NGS is tight, smooth and plays perfectly and my hands are fine. I don't have to constantly switch my hands around the entire controler just to implement some stradegy just cause the buttons are literally set up so you can't do multiple things at once (like you could in any other action game). How can I evade and attack lightning quick? YOU CAN'T. You can't do a thing with this game, and the demo doesn't even give you an entire level. Thumbs ALL THE WAY DOWN for HS. I mean who heard of an action game that's susposed to be fast paced, on par with the likes of NGS and GOW, who's only ability to actually block is not press anything at all...??!! Sorry, this isn't the neutral block option in a Tekken game or Soul Calibur (cause only that type of option works in a 1 ON 1 FIGHTING GAME).
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#42 Illmaticnyj
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HS isnt so hot, it doesnt compare to NGS or even DMC and GoW
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#43 snipe2004
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My last post was for snipe

and lol & sgallag for showing off his amazing ignorance.

treelog187

my post was sarcastic but i do love NGS its a great game and thats what im currently playing right now. im going to get HS on day one i think itll be an awesome game

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#44 odin2019
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Based on what I've played of the two games I like NGS alot more.

If you ask me HS will be lucky to out sell Devil May Cry 4. I think Devil May Cry 4 will be the better action adventure game.

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#45 ColoradoKindBud
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"The combat system has no depth at all, you can basically finish off every single enemy the same way with the same combo."

This comment proves that you've either not played NG at all, or you played it for about 5 minutes because anyone who has played through the game knows that there isn't a shred of truth in that statement. I'm guessing you played the demo & think that makes you an expert on the game.

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#46 StrayMBlasTER
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the demo to HS was dissapointing i think, the first time i played ninja it was awsome. lighting fast, overwhelming, and near impossible greatness, HS felt felt like a prettier watter-downed GoW( in which i would still take over this) nothing new or exiciting i found.

NGS wins!!!

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#48 biggamerhk
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ok, why did u even make this thread?? hevaenly sword hasnt even come out yet!! a little early . .
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#49 Luxen90
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Im playing NGS right now trying to beat the game. Gameplay wise I honestly like Heavenly sword better(also to me it seems HS has a bit more style). Now with graphics NGS just looks like they just added wax to a old car to make it shine. NGS isnt crap.
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#50 odin2019
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how about we compare the length of the two games. I know HS takes about 12-15 hours to bet the game but how many hours does Sigma take to beat? If I had to beat I would say Sigma is the longer game but I could be wrong. Anyway how long is Sigma?