No more Backwards Compatability ever

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/16/tretton-would-have-liked-backwards-compatibility-in-ps3/

What a disgrace!!!

Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

PlayStation 3 plays PlayStation 3 games.

Who knew :|

Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

LtColJaxson

no it didnt. When they 1st deleted the EE chip, tretton stated it didnt reduce cost of the PS3. They want people to buy PS3 games.

I don't care. I'm still gonna buy a ps3 when the 40gig gets replaced with the 80gig.:)laser-pointer

Me too, which includes DS3

I already have a PS2 anyways

sony most likely will be adding ps2 games to the psn store so it might not end up being a big deal. but im glad i already have the original 60gig with the emotion enginedewey_cocks

thats a rip off because PS2 is still in business and u can find 90% of old PS2 games at Gamestop.

Imagine Gamestop Price for MGS 2= $5.99 PSN Price for MGS 2= $14.99

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Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

PSP107

no it didnt. When they 1st deleted the EE chip, tretton stated it didnt reduce cost of the PS3. They want people to buy PS3 games.

Um, yeah thats the whole idea. Why put out a system just for ppl to continue buying games for the prior PS2. They took out BC to push software sales. I'm glad to have my 60GB converted to a 300GB PS3 but I don't understand why ppl get mad at sony for losing exclusives titles and not bringing out more games when you continue to buy ps2 software over ps3 software. If u want to play ps2 games keep your ps2, but if you want to get more exclusives and better ps3 title you're going to have to support the system. point blank. and i agree, Get Over It bruh. Business 101 aka economics aka supply and demand. stop the supply of bc equals more demand of ps3 software and hardware.

PlayStation 3 plays PlayStation 3 games.

Who knew :|

hazelnutman

[QUOTE="dewey_cocks"]sony most likely will be adding ps2 games to the psn store so it might not end up being a big deal. but im glad i already have the original 60gig with the emotion enginePSP107

thats a rip off because PS2 is still in business and u can find 90% of old PS2 games at Gamestop.

Imagine Gamestop Price for MGS 2= $5.99 PSN Price for MGS 2= $14.99

And this is one more reason why they don't have to support BC since you can buy PS2 for cheap and used games for cheap.

there was absolutly no reason for sony to completaly remove bc, ppl who wanted it gladely pay the $100 more, and the only reason ppl bought PS2 games to play on PS3 was because there wasnt that many PS3 games yet, that has since changed, and weekly PS3 software sales are twice as much as PS2s, and there is over 10 times more PS2s out there.kb8618

lucky me i bought a 60gig at launch :)

lucky me i bought a 60gig at launch :)

Kaine666_2

and the only reason ppl bought PS2 games to play on PS3 was because there wasnt that many PS3 games yet, kb8618

Game set and match, PS3 was often viewed as poorly ported titles so not many early adopters didnt buy PS3 software and i didnt blame them. So sony foolishy wanted future PS3 owners to buy PS3 games only with the 40 GB. Thats the only reason i hear that sony removed BC

I have over 100 PS2 games. Everybody collects something and for me its playstation games. I also have around 70 PS1 games but luckily they still work.

Why would Sony need to push ppl to buy PS3 software. The reason somebody buys a PS3 is to play PS3 games. Bad PS3 software sales because bad PS3 software. Sony is the company that made BC popular so now they are taking it away? That's ridiculous.

The only new PS2 games coming out now are ports, they just continue to support it so they can say that it had a 10 year lifespan. I wouldn't care cuz my PS2 slim still works and probably always will if I need it to but in the future regular TV's aren't going to be around anymore just HDTV's. PS2 on an HDTV looks like garbage. PS3 upscaling makes them look decent and it's nice to have one system to play all my games. It just seems like Sony has forgotten where they came from.

Now I have to pray to GOD that my 60GB lasts forever...

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Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

PSP107

no it didnt. When they 1st deleted the EE chip, tretton stated it didnt reduce cost of the PS3. They want people to buy PS3 games.

Then they need to make actual Playstation games instead of the westernized crap they've been pumping out.

Get over it!TrevCubsOr21

Yea, I mean seriously. Why do people care? I personally bought my PS3 to play PS3 games, not to play PS2 games... I have a PS2 for that... Plus its 2 years into the products lifecycle, GIVE IT UP ALREADY.

The 60 GB had been out for over a year, why? So that those who still wish to play PS2 games can do so, the PS3 80 GB version has been out for almost two years and you can still purchase it and it has almost perfect backwards compatibility.

Those who care or cared for PS2 B/C had plenty of time to own B/C system and in fact still have.

Those who don't care for it already have PS2 console or decided to do a least a little research in last two years.

Sony gave plenty of time, it's up to consumers. There really is no excuse or complains.

I'm personally glad B/C had been cut out, it's time to continue focusing on PlayStation 3 and it's future.

sony most likely will be adding ps2 games to the psn store so it might not end up being a big deal. but im glad i already have the original 60gig with the emotion enginedewey_cocks

Unless the games are completely reworked so as to run naively on the hardware, that would be impossible. (PS1 games are emulated).

Of course that's another drawback... now Sony will almost certainly never introduce a service for downloading classic PS2 titles.

[QUOTE="dewey_cocks"]sony most likely will be adding ps2 games to the psn store so it might not end up being a big deal. but im glad i already have the original 60gig with the emotion engineThePlothole

Unless the games are completely reworked so as to run naively on the hardware, that would be impossible. (PS1 games are emulated).

Of course that's another drawback... now Sony will almost certainly never introduce a service for downloading classic PS2 titles.

Does it really matter for B/C? If you have a PS2 just use that for your PS2 gaming needs. I have gamecube games and the WII has B/C and I barely use it.

Whatever happened to those days when B/C didn't matter?

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="dewey_cocks"]sony most likely will be adding ps2 games to the psn store so it might not end up being a big deal. but im glad i already have the original 60gig with the emotion engineCosmoKing7717

Unless the games are completely reworked so as to run naively on the hardware, that would be impossible. (PS1 games are emulated).

Of course that's another drawback... now Sony will almost certainly never introduce a service for downloading classic PS2 titles.

It would presumably require more reworking, since at least every hard drive equipped 360 is backwards compatible.

Does it really matter for B/C? If you have a PS2 just use that for your PS2 gaming needs. I have gamecube games and the WII has B/C and I barely use it.

Whatever happened to those days when B/C didn't matter?

pro_gamer12345

But the PS2 can and eventually will break. Plus having it play on the PS3 is both convenient and cost-effective (*unlimited* memory cards).

The same thing that happened to the days of the typewriter. Technology today is supposed to be about ever greater convenience.

Come on people its gone, ****ing on Gamespot wont bring it back. OO7OO7

Spoken true.

Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

LtColJaxson

exactly, IMO i think if u want to play old games that badly guess get a ps2 or if u still have yours, but dont get me wrong its awesome that you can play it on the ps3, but it does make it cheaper,, thank god i have the launch 60GB lol

You know, after reading yet another thread asking why their PS3 can't play PS2 games, I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the people buying the system have no idea that it's NOT backwards compatible. And I have to wonder if this move will result in Sony's support lines being hammered with calls from people thinking their new console is broken.

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Oh well...

If people still want to play PS2, then they can buy a PS2 for cheap. But obviously by taking out B/C, it makes the PS3 less expensive...

JoKeR_421

exactly, IMO i think if u want to play old games that badly guess get a ps2 or if u still have yours, but dont get me wrong its awesome that you can play it on the ps3, but it does make it cheaper,, thank god i have the launch 60GB lol

Since 80GB there is no emotion chip in the PS3, all is software emulation and the software is already there. Putting the same piece of software in the 40GB and upcoming 80GB costs nothing.

The only reason of removing BC is to force people to buy new PS3 games rather than having a cheap Blu-ray player w/ thousands of cheap PS2 games which are still very good for many people and casual gamers.

Since 80GB there is no emotion chip in the PS3, all is software emulation and the software is already there. Putting the same piece of software in the 40GB and upcoming 80GB costs nothing.

The only reason of removing BC is to force people to buy new PS3 games rather than having a cheap Blu-ray player w/ thousands of cheap PS2 games which are still very good for many people and casual gamers.

megazone23

This is partially incorrect. The 80GB model, while does not have the Emotion Engine (PS2 CPU) as you mention, still has the Graphics Synthesizer (PS2 GPU) integrated into it's chipset. So it is NOT all software emulation. It still uses the GS hardware while emulating the EE to give backwards compatibility. The 40GB model lacks both chips.