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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157441 personally I think they do have a point where its time to look forward to the new generation of games mainly ps3's and considering the fact that ps2's are still selling well, they could just play ps2 games on that instead of the ps3, but its also screws over certain groups of consumers (mainly europe) and if they do eventually do it here and in japan then those people also, if they were gonna do this, they should have done it for all systems including the launch ones. any thoughts?mmirza23I like how sony has backed away from every bullet point they've touted as why they are better than 360. First the whole all games will be 1080p unlike 360, then free unified online network...now backing away from BC. Keep it up sony and the ps3 will end up like the saturn.
Dude why the hell do people complain NA and Asia have a 98% backwards compatibility and Euro will have less what 96/95%? last time I checked Sony kept sending firmware updates increasing the backwards compatibility and they stated the same for Euro consoles
Poeple that should worry are the "other" consoles owner who have aprox of 30% backwards compatibility
Way to spin the news lol..Dude why the hell do people complain NA and Asia have a 98% backwards compatibility and Euro will have less what 96/95%? last time I checked Sony kept sending firmware updates increasing the backwards compatibility and they stated the same for Euro consoles
Poeple that should worry are the "other" consoles owner who have aprox of 30% backwards compatibility
Charlie2688
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157441 personally I think they do have a point where its time to look forward to the new generation of games mainly ps3's and considering the fact that ps2's are still selling well, they could just play ps2 games on that instead of the ps3, but its also screws over certain groups of consumers (mainly europe) and if they do eventually do it here and in japan then those people also, if they were gonna do this, they should have done it for all systems including the launch ones. any thoughts?mmirza23european ps3 can play ps2 and ps1 games. iv pre-ordered my euro 1. i live in UK
First of all there IS backward compatibility (i don't see why the subject). Second of all we've got to wait till it's released and see how big the problem really is. I agree it's an issue but a really big one only if games such as MGS, God Of War, GTA, etc don't work. We HAVE to wait and see.....rickspin
lol well yeah thats why I had a question mark in the subject, not sure as to how good its gonna be, as our's is.
[QUOTE="Charlie2688"]Way to spin the news lol.. ok, so tell us how many games will not be playable in Europe? don't know? then how do you know he is wrong?Dude why the hell do people complain NA and Asia have a 98% backwards compatibility and Euro will have less what 96/95%? last time I checked Sony kept sending firmware updates increasing the backwards compatibility and they stated the same for Euro consoles
Poeple that should worry are the "other" consoles owner who have aprox of 30% backwards compatibility
Cellien
Right now I own a NA PS3 and I love it, but when I heard this I was shocked. BC was one of the best selling features of the PS3 and a BIG reason why I got one. BC also helps to ensure Playstation brand loyalty.you cannot compare the prices from different countries. Standard currency conversions don't apply.
And while a list of supported european games for PS2 isn't available yet, if the software emulation is anything like the 360s, it can't be too good. They say its for cost reduction purposes, yet Europeans pay a few hundred more per PS3 than both USA and Japan anyway. There has been no announced price change in Europe either. I don't know why they did this.... but I am glad I already bought my NA PS3, hopefully they wont make a change to the hardware over here too. ajefferism
[QUOTE="Cellien"][QUOTE="Charlie2688"]Way to spin the news lol.. ok, so tell us how many games will not be playable in Europe? don't know? then how do you know he is wrong? You obviously don't know what it is to spin the news.. Means, he is turning bad news (getting less for your money with the PS3 now even tho its the same price and less compatibility with PS2 games) into good news that Sony is on top of things. Let me ask you this.. would you rather a PS3 that the N. Americans have or the European PS3?Dude why the hell do people complain NA and Asia have a 98% backwards compatibility and Euro will have less what 96/95%? last time I checked Sony kept sending firmware updates increasing the backwards compatibility and they stated the same for Euro consoles
Poeple that should worry are the "other" consoles owner who have aprox of 30% backwards compatibility
eclipsed4utoo
[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="Cellien"][QUOTE="Charlie2688"]Way to spin the news lol.. ok, so tell us how many games will not be playable in Europe? don't know? then how do you know he is wrong? You obviously don't know what it is to spin the news.. Means, he is turning bad news (getting less for your money with the PS3 now even tho its the same price and less compatibility with PS2 games) into good news that Sony is on top of things. Let me ask you this.. would you rather a PS3 that the N. Americans have or the European PS3? considering that the Euro PS3's could have the 65nm CELL processor in it, I would choose that one after a recent report showed the huge amount of power that the PS3 consumes. To me, the BC issue doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I know that Sony is going to look at the big franchises to make sure they work. IBM even stated last year that Sony's software emulation was covering most of the games in one fell swoop. So in my opinion, all this hoopla is going to be for nothing. but that's just my opinion. If I lived in Europe, I would be first in-line to buy a PS3...mainly because of their 30 launch titles.Dude why the hell do people complain NA and Asia have a 98% backwards compatibility and Euro will have less what 96/95%? last time I checked Sony kept sending firmware updates increasing the backwards compatibility and they stated the same for Euro consoles
Poeple that should worry are the "other" consoles owner who have aprox of 30% backwards compatibility
Cellien
[QUOTE="mmirza23"]http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157441 personally I think they do have a point where its time to look forward to the new generation of games mainly ps3's and considering the fact that ps2's are still selling well, they could just play ps2 games on that instead of the ps3, but its also screws over certain groups of consumers (mainly europe) and if they do eventually do it here and in japan then those people also, if they were gonna do this, they should have done it for all systems including the launch ones. any thoughts?Master__ShakeI like how sony has backed away from every bullet point they've touted as why they are better than 360. First the whole all games will be 1080p unlike 360, then free unified online network...now backing away from BC. Keep it up sony and the ps3 will end up like the saturn. all games will eventually more into 1080P , atleast the games that woudl benefit from it, the developers need more time to do this, its not sony fualt. Sony has given them the tool that can output next gen game,s tis up to the developers to know how to do it. also about backwards compatability, i dotn really care if it cant play any playstation one games, hell i dotn care to much about ps2 games. Its obvios the Ps3 will eb able to play the PS2 games that matter, does it really need to be able to play bass fishing?
The press release doesn't state that Sony is abandoning BC OR even that they are going all software OR that they are telling people to "just buy a PS2". This seems more like Sony just modulating expectations after everyone criticized them for promising "total backwards compatibility" when it was really "only" 98%. More likely Sony will still have excellent BC but there may be some inevitable glitches that crop up with the adoption of a new emulation method.
It's funny that I've been watching the media and forum criticisms of Sony saying they suck for promising the world and not delivering. Over and over again Sony is ragged on and told to be "less arrogant" and "make fewer promises they can't deliver." Now that Sony actually makes a press release that lowers peoples expectations again everyone pounces like starved lions on a sick elephant. It seems Sony can't do anything right in the eyes of the world.
I think everyone should take a deep breath, have some patience and see how things ACTUALLY TURN OUT before b*tching about everything. If the BC is crap we'll have plenty of time to crucify Sony later on.
I seem to recall the same thing happened with the anti-aliasing glitch for the NA systems. Everyone was whining about it, saying so much crap about how it was unfixable and how Sony messed up big time. That got fixed right? So how about we learn from that and wait for objective data before we start spreading crap around like drug-snorting bipolar monkeys.
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