Earlier I've read previews that say MGS4 looked ready to ship and presume it's only to do the last polish the game was delayed. Now this at CES 2008. http://www.ps3center.net/story-1533-MGS-4-Has-Frame-Rate-Issues-On-PS3.html
[QUOTE="darkfame"]Earlier I've read previews that say MGS4 looked ready to ship and presume it's only to do the last polish the game was delayed. Now this at CES 2008. http://www.ps3center.net/story-1533-MGS-4-Has-Frame-Rate-Issues-On-PS3.html[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, well it is still a demo. But if they still want to get this game out by March, they have some work to due. I really would hate to see another delay. But then again I want the game running top notch.
I agree 30 fps isn't bad, but you'll notice if it often drops from 60 to 30.. it will seem less smooth. I never expected to read this as I've seen every footage released of MGS4 and never noticed anything. I hope the reports are a bit too negative compared to the actual framerate.
30 fps isn't bad; especially considering MGS3 runs for the most part at 30 fps. Resistance also runs at 30 fps. Of course I'd prefer the game to stay at a consistent 60, but as long as it doesn't drop below 30 I'll be happy.
dont think there anything to worry about guys think its just rumours and the mg seriers has neever let me down so far im sure it will b full of surprises
Heck Falo "Yea The green guy that looks exactly like the dude from Doom, the original" made a living off of 30fps. 30fps is not bad if it dont miss. The problem in some other games, seems to be something else. And ill have more on it in a few months. Its not the frames so much as people think, in some of these games. Trying to figure out why some frames seem to repeat out of no where. Meaning the same frame plays out twice, or even more times in a row, in weird areas. And it tends to drag a area of a backround or something. Oddley this has nothing to do with slowdown, just odd code. And why on some games made specifically by Sony, this seems to not be a problem. So 30fps is not a problem. Epically if thats what they were gonna run any ways. 60 on other areas. The only problem I can see, Is this nut who makes this game. Wont release it if their is one pixel out of place. And yea that can be good in some ways. But hes kinda over obsessed when it comes to that.
Yea didn't they say that it was the old demo but they got more time with it now? Anyways if the gamestop release date is true they have some time on their hands.
Doesn't sound like that big of a problem especially considering it is an old build. If it doesn't dip below 30 I don't see a problem. The FPS fluctuating between 60-30 is not that big of a deal. Either way in the end I am sure MGS4 will be a technically sound game.
Anyone that thinks 30 fps is bad is a graphics whore. Of course a demo isn't going to be perfect. At least reserve judgement until the game is out, that way we can avoid having fanboys going 'LOLZ MGS4 has teh BAD FRAMERATES'.
Anyone that thinks 30 fps is bad is a graphics whore. Of course a demo isn't going to be perfect. At least reserve judgement until the game is out, that way we can avoid having fanboys going 'LOLZ MGS4 has teh BAD FRAMERATES'.Silent-Hal
Inconsistent framerates is what they were refering to, I doubt the final product will be like that.
Anyone that thinks 30 fps is bad is a graphics whore. Of course a demo isn't going to be perfect. At least reserve judgement until the game is out, that way we can avoid having fanboys going 'LOLZ MGS4 has teh BAD FRAMERATES'.Silent-Hal
I think the concern is the fluctuation between 60-30fps which can be noticable. If it was a steady 30fps, you are right, it wouldn't be bad at all.
Awesome :D I have to say though that the game is not due out till June-July so Kojima has another couple of months to polish MGS4 to the sheen. MGS4 will be a breathtaking game to play and apparantly the end is supposed to be so EPIC that gamers will talk about it for a looong time, I heard it in a PSM3 mag which had an interview with Kojima Productions.
This is how I feel about MGS4 which is no doubt the BIGGEST game of the year.
Also I woudn't worry about the frames-per-second, knowing Kojima the game will play really smoothly and they still have time and I believe they want to bump it up to 60fps before release, although 30fps is also great.
They could just cap the framerate at 30 per second and no one would notice. Also, I wonder how they know the exact framerate, I doubt the developers would show the debug menu during the demo.
They could just cap the framerate at 30 per second and no one would notice. Also, I wonder how they know the exact framerate, I doubt the developers would show the debug menu during the demo.BenderUnit22
You can tell if something is jumping between 60 and 30.
I could care less because it is not like the game is a run and gun type of game so if the framerate is 30 who cares... haha unless you get the game and try to play the whole thing in first person shooter mode.
its a good and bad thing when you doing nothing sneaking running around shooting bad guys its 60fps when you get into heavy crap bombs going off lots of guys it goes to 60 fps it does jump back and forth
I could care less because it is not like the game is a run and gun type of game so if the framerate is 30 who cares... haha unless you get the game and try to play the whole thing in first person shooter mode.baller72
Good point. I don't think anyone loves FPS' that much to ruin the game, maybe for a dare or something!
[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Anyone that thinks 30 fps is bad is a graphics whore. Of course a demo isn't going to be perfect. At least reserve judgement until the game is out, that way we can avoid having fanboys going 'LOLZ MGS4 has teh BAD FRAMERATES'.ryank285
I think the concern is the fluctuation between 60-30fps which can be noticable. If it was a steady 30fps, you are right, it wouldn't be bad at all.
Where are these comments when EA releases their games.... Every time they have 30fps they get blasted. OK more stuff going on at once etc, but still.....
Bah, that's not a bad thing at all. It's kind of expected with high action situations, especially in the middle of a very lively battlefield with constant fighting. When the frame rate drops to "lagatron" levels and gives us people with motion sickness a problem, then it's a concern.
[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Anyone that thinks 30 fps is bad is a graphics whore. Of course a demo isn't going to be perfect. At least reserve judgement until the game is out, that way we can avoid having fanboys going 'LOLZ MGS4 has teh BAD FRAMERATES'.svenskamerikan
I think the concern is the fluctuation between 60-30fps which can be noticable. If it was a steady 30fps, you are right, it wouldn't be bad at all.
Where are these comments when EA releases their games.... Every time they have 30fps they get blasted. OK more stuff going on at once etc, but still.....
Thing is that when EA got blasted for games running at 30 fps, it's because the games in question were multiplatform and the 360 versions all ran at 60 fps. People complained to EA because the PS3 users were gettingan "inferior" product compared to their 360 brethren. It's not quite the same situation here.
[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]They could just cap the framerate at 30 per second and no one would notice. Also, I wonder how they know the exact framerate, I doubt the developers would show the debug menu during the demo.moshakirby
You can tell if something is jumping between 60 and 30.
No you can't. It would have to fluctuate from 60 to 25 before becoming noticeable. Besides, like BenderUnit22 said, they wouldn't run the debug menu during the demo, so who ever said it fluctuates between 60 and 30, just pulled numbers out of their ass.
The game hasn't reached a stage of full optimization yet. That's what these last few months of development are going to be used for, to either make it run as solidly as it can @ 60fps, or make 30fps look as good as possible. Either way, 30 or 60 I don't care, it's if they go 60 and it constantly dips to 30 that I will start to complain, I want to play a game, not a slideshow.
The game hasn't reached a stage of full optimization yet. That's what these last few months of development are going to be used for, to either make it run as solidly as it can @ 60fps, or make 30fps look as good as possible. Either way, 30 or 60 I don't care, it's if they go 60 and it constantly dips to 30 that I will start to complain, I want to play a game, not a slideshow.fntsycloud
60 to 30 wouldn't even be noticable. It would have to dip well below 30 frames before it resembled a slideshow.
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