paying for playstation network

who here would be willing to pay for the playstation network like microsoft charges for xbox live(60 dollars a year..5 dollars a month)if it meant that we would recieve demo's like our microsoft counterparts do...would it not motivate sony to hurry and catch up on the online front?i for one would pay 5 dollars a month...after all...I have live and I have a ps3 and by no means is this a system comparison...I realize live is much older then psn but even sony must realize that it costs money and time to refine an online community...pass some of the burden over to the customer..only make sure its worth every penny...after all...its just the price of one game

Paying != better.doolies

[QUOTE="doolies"]Paying != better.rogerjak

In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstPablo620

In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstPablo620

[QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstUzburacuz9

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

I think we should never have to pay for PSN or Xbox live because we already pay for the game, pay for the console and pay the internet company. i think that paying even more than that is stupid, but thats just my opinion.DannyGT

[QUOTE="Uzburacuz9"][QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstcreekfan_basic

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

nothing from a free network ?

doesn't Resistance offer up to 40 players online ? surely that's an impressive feat for a service you'r not paying for, i mean the most i can think of on a 360 game is 16 players

i really don't see what the deal is with live, the only thing i like is the integrated friends list, the blade interface feels clunky & not particularly interested in downloading stuff from the store, as long as gaming online comes first then thats all i care about

Please 5 bones a month, I got enough bills as it is, hell for an extra 5 bones I can have Netfix which will deliver me unlimited DVD and BluRays. What the hell will a so called better PSN deliver me, nothing I can play online as it is, I don't need to hand over 60 dollars a year just so I can have tournaments that I won't enter and points that I won't care about. In short I'd rather give my 5 dollars to NetFix.pimperjones

[QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="doolies"]Paying != better.doolies

[QUOTE="creekfan_basic"]

[QUOTE="Uzburacuz9"][QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firsth4yabusa

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

nothing from a free network ?

doesn't Resistance offer up to 40 players online ? surely that's an impressive feat for a service you'r not paying for, i mean the most i can think of on a 360 game is 16 players

i really don't see what the deal is with live, the only thing i like is the integrated friends list, the blade interface feels clunky & not particularly interested in downloading stuff from the store, as long as gaming online comes first then thats all i care about

who here would be willing to pay for the playstation network like microsoft charges for xbox live(60 dollars a year..5 dollars a month)if it meant that we would recieve demo's like our microsoft counterparts do...would it not motivate sony to hurry and catch up on the online front?i for one would pay 5 dollars a month...after all...I have live and I have a ps3 and by no means is this a system comparison...I realize live is much older then psn but even sony must realize that it costs money and time to refine an online community...pass some of the burden over to the customer..only make sure its worth every penny...after all...its just the price of one game

xps600

you guys spend $600 for a console and think that $5 a month is too expensive for online play.  sound like a bunch of fanboys to me.

[QUOTE="h4yabusa"][QUOTE="creekfan_basic"]

[QUOTE="Uzburacuz9"][QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstRaptorVenom

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

nothing from a free network ?

doesn't Resistance offer up to 40 players online ? surely that's an impressive feat for a service you'r not paying for, i mean the most i can think of on a 360 game is 16 players

i really don't see what the deal is with live, the only thing i like is the integrated friends list, the blade interface feels clunky & not particularly interested in downloading stuff from the store, as long as gaming online comes first then thats all i care about

I don't have to pay anything, and the network is significantly more stable than pretty much every other network that I have ever had the pleasure of using.

Seems fine enough by me, even better now that the Playstation Store is actually starting to get updates.

you guys spend $600 for a console and think that $5 a month is too expensive for online play.  sound like a bunch of fanboys to me.

nystud

*sigh*

Some of us are happy getting access to all of the features for free, as opposed to having what we can do determined by what we pay.

$5 a month isn't really all that expensive, imo, but when the network is already free, and offers what most subscription-based services do, then there isn't really much of a point to start charging monthly fees.

$50 a year is not expensive. What about the legions of WoW players who have recurring payments or buy gamecards?

[QUOTE="doolies"]Paying != better.rogerjak

I agree, I don't think we should be charged to play Online, I think we should be charged for downloading full games online like what Sony is doing now. Sony will fix PSN up and will add more demos and games and soon they will have more features.

[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"][QUOTE="h4yabusa"][QUOTE="creekfan_basic"]

[QUOTE="Uzburacuz9"][QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstkenshinhimura16

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

nothing from a free network ?

doesn't Resistance offer up to 40 players online ? surely that's an impressive feat for a service you'r not paying for, i mean the most i can think of on a 360 game is 16 players

i really don't see what the deal is with live, the only thing i like is the integrated friends list, the blade interface feels clunky & not particularly interested in downloading stuff from the store, as long as gaming online comes first then thats all i care about

[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="RaptorVenom"][QUOTE="h4yabusa"][QUOTE="creekfan_basic"]

[QUOTE="Uzburacuz9"][QUOTE="Pablo620"]In time my friend. Eventually the PSN will get all the demos and features and stuff that XBL has. Sony is occupied with the rest of the world launch firstRaptorVenom

keep on dreaming.....you get what you pay for....the free PSN network will never offer as much content as live....remeber all the promises with the PS2 on line? what makes you think that is suddenly going to change with no revenue to back up upgrades, etc....they are losing their shirt as it is on the console itself so don't plan on much for the PSN network.....and guess what, I have both, and PSN is just an after thought that isn't truly integrated into the PS3 experince like live is with the 360. The ps3 is a damn fine piece of hardware...but I expect little to nothing from a free network and don't even get me started on their crappy interface and dog slow performance.

nothing from a free network ?

doesn't Resistance offer up to 40 players online ? surely that's an impressive feat for a service you'r not paying for, i mean the most i can think of on a 360 game is 16 players

i really don't see what the deal is with live, the only thing i like is the integrated friends list, the blade interface feels clunky & not particularly interested in downloading stuff from the store, as long as gaming online comes first then thats all i care about

ONLINE PLAY SHOULD ALWAYS BE FREE. Anyone who pays has to be someone who doesn't care who's taking money outta their wallets. I used to have XBL, and I even experienced lag on Halo 2; when I got my PS3, there was practically no lag at all in Resistance. Trust me, paying doesn't really help you out. It's just an excuse to ask for money for a few minor features that don't even have to do with online play. Yeah, you can get msgs and so on in XBL, but those are hardly worth mentioning and are really just a novelty. I assume that it's gratifying that it's there (I assume because I don't have XBL anymore), but do you ever really use it? The same goes for World of Warcraft, which asks much more than XBL demands. Yes, it's to keep servers up, but paying 20-25$ CAD each month is absurd...yes, it's one of the most fun games I've ever played, and I wish other ppl who usually don't play games would play WoW too to let them see how much fun a game can really be, but it's not worth it if money is slowly sapping out of your wallet. In short, PSN is the epitomy of what online play should actually be: free.

the obvious is that I'm a little impatient...I realize sony will counter with some great updates...but I refuse to believe that without some sort of motivation...in this case being dollars...that they will be quick to catch up to the competitors...all I really want is demos....I enjoy a taste of whats to come before it gets here...

ps3 network name...pIayb3yond.....the L is an I

who here would be willing to pay for the playstation network like microsoft charges for xbox live(60 dollars a year..5 dollars a month)if it meant that we would recieve demo's like our microsoft counterparts do...would it not motivate sony to hurry and catch up on the online front?i for one would pay 5 dollars a month...after all...I have live and I have a ps3 and by no means is this a system comparison...I realize live is much older then psn but even sony must realize that it costs money and time to refine an online community...pass some of the burden over to the customer..only make sure its worth every penny...after all...its just the price of one game

xps600

How is Live $60.00 a year? I get my subs on Ebay for $30.00 and the regular price is $49.99

Your question is unintentionally filled with Microsoft rhetoric.

First off, how much should be charged for an online system?

Microsoft has famously lost nearly 1 billion dollars a year for 4-5 years on XBox sum total.

To be profitable they should have charged every live user $1000 a year.

Second: We have nearly 10 years of free online gaming in Shooting games and even MMO's on the PC.
It's not like this appeared magically out of the air. Live is attempting to charge for something we have all had for free for many years.

Lastly: If you wish to overlook facts #1 and #2 then you should agree that Microsoft should try to make money in other ways than just ONLINE. Like selling GAMES and services. Which if you agree with that point then Sony is doing the right thing, right?

Basically, it sounds as if you believe that the PSN will not evolve and improve.  That is not true.  It is the pipeline for money which Sony will hardly ignore.


UntoldDreams

MMOs on the PC cost alot more than $50.00 a year.

the obvious is that I'm a little impatient...I realize sony will counter with some great updates...but I refuse to believe that without some sort of motivation...in this case being dollars...that they will be quick to catch up to the competitors...all I really want is demos....I enjoy a taste of whats to come before it gets here...

ps3 network name...pIayb3yond.....the L is an I

xps600

I'm not willing to pay to play any game other than MMORPGs. Online multiplayer is free for PCs many years now, i don't see the reason to pay for something when others offer it for free. Demos should be free too as developers advertise their games that way. The only thing they should/could charge for is full movies, TV episodes, downloadable content, downloadable games etc. If they charge resonably i would buy extra episodes for games i like (not horse armour lol). I would even welcome such a move because i can't wait 3-4 years to play a new Final Fantasy . . .calandbolg

[QUOTE="xps600"]

the obvious is that I'm a little impatient...I realize sony will counter with some great updates...but I refuse to believe that without some sort of motivation...in this case being dollars...that they will be quick to catch up to the competitors...all I really want is demos....I enjoy a taste of whats to come before it gets here...

ps3 network name...pIayb3yond.....the L is an I

Pablo620

By the time that happens the PS3 would be dead. Blu ray is not replacing anything anytime soon.

Here's the bottom line. You shouldn't pay to play Online and the fact is PSN just came out and will get better. PSN could get the features that Live has and still be free therefore we shouldn't only really have to pay to download games and movies if they put that on, Online and that's it. To play online should be free and it's good Sony is doing that.G-Legend