Play station 3 worries

It seems to me that Sony's fanbase (aimed at teenagers usually) don't actually have that much cash to spend, most of the people I know who buy ps games buy them second hand or discounted to say nothing of pirate copies down the market or off the internet. And since Blueray is a totally new technology it's going to take a while for the piracy to filter down to a grass roots level. For more on the playstation 3 visit me at: web design company

What I'm trying to say is that I beleive a sizable portion of Sony's sales come from people who buy the machine for quality, cheap software. And since the cheapest software always comes with the widest market share I think this might alter in the next generation due to the fact the PS3 is pretty much a luxury item. Sony's whole marketing strategy is usually aimed at the "street" except when it comes to this new machine which clearly isn't.

Now, Sony has said that it intends the PS3 to last for a lot longer than the last generation (8 years or so) so I can understand their battle plan. Market to the prosumer first and then years later the machine will become cheaper and that market will grow. But isn't eight years an awfully long time in this industry and isn't $500 bucks a bit much. I hope Sony know something we don't otherwise they are giving ample opportunity for Microsoft and Nintendo to snatch a large part of the market back.

Maybe...

But still 3mln people buy this "Playstation 3" even for 600$...

So...It's simple...you don't have money...you don't buy it !

From what I have heard regarding the cost of the PS3, it costs about $800 to make each unit, so you have to understand you and me as consumers are getting about $300 off the price that it should have cost. My best guess is that the PS3 would have been selling for about $900 or more if they wanted to make money, so in a sense we are getting quite a break here. I still will wait to get one to see if all the bugs and problems are fixed before buying one though, I never rush out to buy something unless I know it works the way its supposed to, but thats just me. To conclude, I think its best to wait a little longer just to see if they do in fact reduce the price and produce more exciting games, not the crap they have been throwing at us since the PS3 launch.JRMNJ

If they were selling it at 900 they wouldn't be making money they'd be out of business. Cost to manufacture them and No one would buy one at that price. They are taking losses to get blu-ray out there to recoup the losses in future years. Main problem with that if blu-ray fails teh PS3 fails. 

From what I have heard regarding the cost of the PS3, it costs about $800 to make each unit, so you have to understand you and me as consumers are getting about $300 off the price that it should have cost. My best guess is that the PS3 would have been selling for about $900 or more if they wanted to make money, so in a sense we are getting quite a break here. I still will wait to get one to see if all the bugs and problems are fixed before buying one though, I never rush out to buy something unless I know it works the way its supposed to, but thats just me. To conclude, I think its best to wait a little longer just to see if they do in fact reduce the price and produce more exciting games, not the crap they have been throwing at us since the PS3 launch.JRMNJ

That makes sense, companies usually lose money on their consoles and make the real money (as opposed to fake money) off of the games. You have to realize (TC) that consoles are not computers, the hardware is very stagnant so you can't charge a very hefty price or else everyone would be playing on a currently owned whatever gen system or a computer. IT is always better (just like with a new OS, especially windows) to wait until it matures to make the purchase. That way you know you have more choices and are enabling yourself to make a much more sound decision. I think it was kinda smart on sonys behalf to use the blu-ray drive for gaming purposes, but they kinda screwed themselves because of their own limitations they have with their console hardware (RAM, video and cpu power are some). With the blu-ray drive you may not see higher texture resolution and other astheticly pleasing visuals, but more like longer games, bigger levels and such. I do think it's cool how they used the hard drive to load content from a game (don't remember which one) in leiu of the blu-ray drive. Would be cool to see this trend catch on, if again, the hardware can support it properly. As to your question about the price tag of the PS3, how low would you expect it to be considering they used next gen hardware for the game medium??? Think of how much the 360 would cost if it came with the HD-DVD drive in place of the DVD drive. Also, it dpepends  on someone's perspective as to if it is worth the cost or if it even costs too much. I own a 360 right now and I am pleased with the games that are coming out during the summer and shortly after. If you wait a little longer for the PS3 I'm sure you will feel the same way.   

Hi does anybody here think that the playstation 3, if it does indeed sell at $500 is asking a bit much? It seems to me that they are gambling their the money on the fact that they expect to sell the machine as a blue ray drive thus capturing a peice of the hardcore video hardware market as well. Now I know there are a lot of rich people who will pick the machine up but is the top end of the market where Sony's fanbase is? I don't think it is.

It seems to me that Sony's fanbase (aimed at teenagers usually) don't actually have that much cash to spend, most of the people I know who buy ps games buy them second hand or discounted to say nothing of pirate copies down the market or off the internet. And since Blueray is a totally new technology it's going to take a while for the piracy to filter down to a grass roots level. For more on the playstation 3 visit me at: web design company

What I'm trying to say is that I beleive a sizable portion of Sony's sales come from people who buy the machine for quality, cheap software. And since the cheapest software always comes with the widest market share I think this might alter in the next generation due to the fact the PS3 is pretty much a luxury item. Sony's whole marketing strategy is usually aimed at the "street" except when it comes to this new machine which clearly isn't.

Now, Sony has said that it intends the PS3 to last for a lot longer than the last generation (8 years or so) so I can understand their battle plan. Market to the prosumer first and then years later the machine will become cheaper and that market will grow. But isn't eight years an awfully long time in this industry and isn't $500 bucks a bit much. I hope Sony know something we don't otherwise they are giving ample opportunity for Microsoft and Nintendo to snatch a large part of the market back.

charlesmartinn

[QUOTE="JRMNJ"]From what I have heard regarding the cost of the PS3, it costs about $800 to make each unit, so you have to understand you and me as consumers are getting about $300 off the price that it should have cost. My best guess is that the PS3 would have been selling for about $900 or more if they wanted to make money, so in a sense we are getting quite a break here. I still will wait to get one to see if all the bugs and problems are fixed before buying one though, I never rush out to buy something unless I know it works the way its supposed to, but thats just me. To conclude, I think its best to wait a little longer just to see if they do in fact reduce the price and produce more exciting games, not the crap they have been throwing at us since the PS3 launch.firebreathing

That makes sense, companies usually lose money on their consoles and make the real money (as opposed to fake money) off of the games. You have to realize (TC) that consoles are not computers, the hardware is very stagnant so you can't charge a very hefty price or else everyone would be playing on a currently owned whatever gen system or a computer. IT is always better (just like with a new OS, especially windows) to wait until it matures to make the purchase. That way you know you have more choices and are enabling yourself to make a much more sound decision. I think it was kinda smart on sonys behalf to use the blu-ray drive for gaming purposes, but they kinda screwed themselves because of their own limitations they have with their console hardware (RAM, video and cpu power are some). With the blu-ray drive you may not see higher texture resolution and other astheticly pleasing visuals, but more like longer games, bigger levels and such. I do think it's cool how they used the hard drive to load content from a game (don't remember which one) in leiu of the blu-ray drive. Would be cool to see this trend catch on, if again, the hardware can support it properly. As to your question about the price tag of the PS3, how low would you expect it to be considering they used next gen hardware for the game medium??? Think of how much the 360 would cost if it came with the HD-DVD drive in place of the DVD drive. Also, it dpepends on someone's perspective as to if it is worth the cost or if it even costs too much. I own a 360 right now and I am pleased with the games that are coming out during the summer and shortly after. If you wait a little longer for the PS3 I'm sure you will feel the same way.

Hi does anybody here think that the playstation 3, if it does indeed sell at $500 is asking a bit much? It seems to me that they are gambling their the money on the fact that they expect to sell the machine as a blue ray drive thus capturing a peice of the hardcore video hardware market as well. Now I know there are a lot of rich people who will pick the machine up but is the top end of the market where Sony's fanbase is? I don't think it is.

It seems to me that Sony's fanbase (aimed at teenagers usually) don't actually have that much cash to spend, most of the people I know who buy ps games buy them second hand or discounted to say nothing of pirate copies down the market or off the internet. And since Blueray is a totally new technology it's going to take a while for the piracy to filter down to a grass roots level. For more on the playstation 3 visit me at: web design company

What I'm trying to say is that I beleive a sizable portion of Sony's sales come from people who buy the machine for quality, cheap software. And since the cheapest software always comes with the widest market share I think this might alter in the next generation due to the fact the PS3 is pretty much a luxury item. Sony's whole marketing strategy is usually aimed at the "street" except when it comes to this new machine which clearly isn't.

Now, Sony has said that it intends the PS3 to last for a lot longer than the last generation (8 years or so) so I can understand their battle plan. Market to the prosumer first and then years later the machine will become cheaper and that market will grow. But isn't eight years an awfully long time in this industry and isn't $500 bucks a bit much. I hope Sony know something we don't otherwise they are giving ample opportunity for Microsoft and Nintendo to snatch a large part of the market back.

charlesmartinn

I'm not rich and i have one and the fan base is at any price point

a price doesnt stop me from buying what i like and if that stops you, then obviously you are not that big of a fan and should just move on

Maybe...

But still 3mln people buy this "Playstation 3" even for 600$...

So...It's simple...you don't have money...you don't buy it !

 

jelopek

Agreed, Can't afford it, don't buy it, but dont hate....  just for the fact of the price

1) I'm not rich. I'm 17 and I dont have a job. I'm no more priviledged than anyone else here. When the PS3 was first rumored, I started saving for it. I bought a PS3 about a month ago with MY own money. So, there really shouldnt be many excuses.

@JRMNJ You said "I never rush out to buy something unless I know it works the way its supposed to." Why dont you compare the 360 forum to the PS3 forum and tell me: How many reports of 360s not working can you find as apposed PS3s not working? The 360 help/fix whatever stickied thread has over 2000 posts alone (admittedly not all are "omg, three rings of death! what do I do?" but still, thats gotta mean something).

I guess it all depends on how you look at it.  It's not like they're giving the 360 away or anything, & if everyone can afford the 360, then they can definitely afford a PS3.  Yeah, the Wii is dirt cheap, but you get what you pay for. 

I think that what you get for the $ with the PS3 is really great, but it won't appeal to a lot of people who haven't made the jump to Hi-Def yet.  But for anyone that already has, you won't hear any of them complaining about the awesome Blu-Ray player you get in the PS3, that's for sure.

The thing is, people say "Oh don't get the PS3, get a 360 and Wii instead!" Which would cost more than if you bought just a pS3.....so I'm not seeing what's the issue here. Granted, you would own 2 consoles, but you'd have to be able to buy games for both.

And with the release of 360 Elite, that narrows the field even more. When Sony starts cranking out the killer apps, more people will take the plunge.

[QUOTE="charlesmartinn"]Hi does anybody here think that the playstation 3, if it does indeed sell at $500 is asking a bit much? It seems to me that they are gambling their the money on the fact that they expect to sell the machine as a blue ray drive thus capturing a peice of the hardcore video hardware market as well. Now I know there are a lot of rich people who will pick the machine up but is the top end of the market where Sony's fanbase is? I don't think it is.

It seems to me that Sony's fanbase (aimed at teenagers usually) don't actually have that much cash to spend, most of the people I know who buy ps games buy them second hand or discounted to say nothing of pirate copies down the market or off the internet. And since Blueray is a totally new technology it's going to take a while for the piracy to filter down to a grass roots level. For more on the playstation 3 visit me at: web design company

What I'm trying to say is that I beleive a sizable portion of Sony's sales come from people who buy the machine for quality, cheap software. And since the cheapest software always comes with the widest market share I think this might alter in the next generation due to the fact the PS3 is pretty much a luxury item. Sony's whole marketing strategy is usually aimed at the "street" except when it comes to this new machine which clearly isn't.

Now, Sony has said that it intends the PS3 to last for a lot longer than the last generation (8 years or so) so I can understand their battle plan. Market to the prosumer first and then years later the machine will become cheaper and that market will grow. But isn't eight years an awfully long time in this industry and isn't $500 bucks a bit much. I hope Sony know something we don't otherwise they are giving ample opportunity for Microsoft and Nintendo to snatch a large part of the market back.

dstryr13

I'm not rich and i have one and the fan base is at any price point

a price doesnt stop me from buying what i like and if that stops you, then obviously you are not that big of a fan and should just move on

[QUOTE="dstryr13"][QUOTE="charlesmartinn"]Hi does anybody here think that the playstation 3, if it does indeed sell at $500 is asking a bit much? It seems to me that they are gambling their the money on the fact that they expect to sell the machine as a blue ray drive thus capturing a peice of the hardcore video hardware market as well. Now I know there are a lot of rich people who will pick the machine up but is the top end of the market where Sony's fanbase is? I don't think it is.

It seems to me that Sony's fanbase (aimed at teenagers usually) don't actually have that much cash to spend, most of the people I know who buy ps games buy them second hand or discounted to say nothing of pirate copies down the market or off the internet. And since Blueray is a totally new technology it's going to take a while for the piracy to filter down to a grass roots level. For more on the playstation 3 visit me at: web design company

What I'm trying to say is that I beleive a sizable portion of Sony's sales come from people who buy the machine for quality, cheap software. And since the cheapest software always comes with the widest market share I think this might alter in the next generation due to the fact the PS3 is pretty much a luxury item. Sony's whole marketing strategy is usually aimed at the "street" except when it comes to this new machine which clearly isn't.

Now, Sony has said that it intends the PS3 to last for a lot longer than the last generation (8 years or so) so I can understand their battle plan. Market to the prosumer first and then years later the machine will become cheaper and that market will grow. But isn't eight years an awfully long time in this industry and isn't $500 bucks a bit much. I hope Sony know something we don't otherwise they are giving ample opportunity for Microsoft and Nintendo to snatch a large part of the market back.

ricd1999

I'm not rich and i have one and the fan base is at any price point

a price doesnt stop me from buying what i like and if that stops you, then obviously you are not that big of a fan and should just move on

thank you :D

Yea...it might be expensive...but it's worth every penny. Im broke as hell and i know my parents ain't gonna get it for me so im doing what ever i can do earn some money here and there. So far i have $400 still need about $300 to go. So i know for a fact that if you want one...you would save up the money to get one that simple. Yea it might take a year...But you'll get one sooner or later. thats what i think.bizzy_bone16

Nicely Put, Keep saving.. I worked o/t for a few days, but its like anything in life, if its worth having, then you'll do what you gotta, no matter what... 

All I can say with threads like this is. I can afford the PS3, but I aint willing to buy it for $600. I won't be getting one until it drops in price by at least $100 off the current price.l-_-l

Thats all up to you when you want to buy it. However, the fact is that it gets old hearing people complain about the price and how they can't afford it or don't want to spend that money. We don't need to hear why YOU think the ps3 is overpriced because most people don't really care what you think about the price. Personally I have one and for me it was worth every penny I spent for it.