PS3 40GIG: Missing Gigs

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#1 Poopster3000
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So I got my PS3 a couple of days ago. All I really have is an installation file of GTA:IV and a gig of music. It says I only have 27gigs out of 37gigs.

Anything wrong?
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#2 Elann2008
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The system takes up 10 gigs, initially.
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#3 T-Machine99
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Yeah you don't get exactly 40GB. As said above the system takes some memory up leaving you with around 35GB .
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#4 squidgy101
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yea mines the same

dont worry

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#5 LilSlugger1
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Oh man good thing someone posted this question because I was wondering why I had only 37 gigs myself!
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#6 jimm895
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It's the same way every OS works, even a PC's HDD uses some space for the OS. So this is perfectly normal.
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#7 jt4mtb
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Well, to be accurate some of that missing space is just due to a difference in measurement systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_drive#Capacity_measurements

"The disk manufacturer used the SI definition of "giga", 109 to arrive at 30 GB; however, because the utilities provided by Windows, Mac and some Linux distributions define a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes (230 bytes, often referred to as a gibibyte, or GiB), the operating system reports capacity of the disk drive as (only) 28.0 GB."

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#8 wwedx
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Well, to be accurate some of that missing space is just due to a difference in measurement systems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_drive#Capacity_measurements

"The disk manufacturer used the SI definition of "giga", 109 to arrive at 30 GB; however, because the utilities provided by Windows, Mac and some Linux distributions define a gigabyte as 1,073,741,824 bytes (230 bytes, often referred to as a gibibyte, or GiB), the operating system reports capacity of the disk drive as (only) 28.0 GB."in english hes saying the harddrives keeps some memory for the operating system

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#9 kenshinhimura16
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Its because of a diference with the number they say the HDD has, and the real number it actually has due to a measuring difference, since 1 gig for the number you see equals 1000MB while the actual number is a bit bigger.

Alas, my 80 comes with only 74 gigs.

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#10 jt4mtb
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in english hes saying the harddrives keeps some memory for the operating systemwwedx

Actually, no. None of what I said as anything to do with the OS keeping memory. When a HDD manufacturer sizes a HDD, they label it with SI units ( 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes); an operating system uses the definition 1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes. It's a difference of how it measures it. It's like converting currency. While $1 is $1 in Austrailia, that same dollar is only worth $0.94 in the US (http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?from=AUD&to=USD&amt=1&t=2y ).

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#11 RedWizard01
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Ok, Sony can't seem to give me a straight answer on this, but according to the forums here, I think I have one. To be clear though, you lose 10 gigs to the OS of the PS 3?

I have an 80 gig model, that starts saying max space 74 gigs, and max available 64. So in total I lose 16 gigs, making it effectively a 60 gig unit. This sounds like an increadible rip off, but I want to see if others have this same issue.

-Ryan

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#12 mgools
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Keep in mind 1000MB = 1GB as far as the HD makers are concerned. Most Operating Systems however use 1024MB = 1GB. That might account for some of the differences.
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#13 shroom76
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tha gta4 install is a few gigs. and a gig of music.

plus the ps3 os is 3 gigs. with nothing on it the 40 has 37 gigs. dont worry about it.

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#14 -Y2J-
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yeh, the 40gb ps3 has 36gigs with 3gb taken on OS, its the same with all hardrives. on the 360 20gb you only get 12gb due to os and bc emulators
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#15 Linadain
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its not that your missing gigs and the OS is not taking the gigs either its that when company's make the hard disk its roughly 40 GB rounded to 40 bc some HDD say like 120 when you buy it but some times its actually 117, 114, 118 etc. its how its been done also go and see on your thumb drives i have a 4 GB one and it says 3.91 and my wifes has a 1 GB and hers says 978 MBs my 500 GB pc HDD has total 485 GB and so on its not the OS its the HDD it self and some comps for PCs not sure about PS3 put a 5-10 gb non viewable partition with recovery data.
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#16 SBDTANGO
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It's the same way every OS works, even a PC's HDD uses some space for the OS. So this is perfectly normal.jimm895

yup. i have a "320" gb hd on my laptop but when i got it it displayed 302. same with my 80gb ps3. its max space available is only 74gb, which is still plenty of room

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#17 wheezal
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sounds like Binary versus Decimal to me. In Binary, 1 MB is 1024 bytes...whereas in Decimal 1 MB is 1000 bytes. As you go all the way up to GB and more, those little differences end up becomming pronounced.

So a 40 GB drive is actually 30-ish GB, however, if you look at the actual byte count, you see you do indeed have 40,000,000,000 bytes on the drive.

then of course the OS and such take stuff up....

well, most seems to have been expalined here already. but..yeah.