PS3 doesn't play games at 1080p?

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#1 FPS1337
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Hey guys I just recently got a PS3. It's the old 80gb, I've updated and all that, but for some reason when I played infamous it was at 720p not 1080p, and I have a 1080p tv. I checked the back it says that it plays at native 720p. This is odd, because all of my xbox 360 games are played at 1080p, I don't think it's the game's native resolution, it's upscaled I think. I was wondering if the PS3 does this too, and I've heard some people just take the 720p and 1080i resolution and it upscales to 1080p, but some games go down to 480p. As of now I have 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p supported and it's on automatic. The only game that plays on my PS3 at 1080p is Metal Gear Solid 4, and I have infamous and God of War 3 that play at 720p.

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#2 DJ_Lae
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PS3 doesn't have the same performance free 1080p upscaling that the 360 does - though whether this affects you ultimately comes down to what TV you have and what it's capable of. You're right, it caused some particular issues with older TVs where a lot of games were forced to run at 480p - I believe this was with 720p TVs that couldn't take the 1080i signal from some older games, so they were stuck with 480p. Shouldn't really affect the image quality of the games, though - there isn't really any difference between the console upscaling a 720p signal to 1080p or your TV taking a direct 720p image and upcaling it to the panel itself...although I suppose it's possible that might introduce a bit of input lag. I haven't noticed any myself, though.
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#3 FPS1337
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Oh too bad, it shouldn't make a big difference. If I took of 720p and 1080i, do you think it will upscale it to 1080p?
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Upscaling to 1080p is worse than playing in 720p.. That's what 360 does I'm pretty sure. There are only a few games that play in native 1080p.
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#5 DJ_Lae
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Oh too bad, it shouldn't make a big difference. If I took of 720p and 1080i, do you think it will upscale it to 1080p?FPS1337
Not unless the game supports it - what you'd likely end up with is the game running at 480p.
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#6 FPS1337
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[QUOTE="-Rinder-"]Upscaling to 1080p is worse than playing in 720p.. That's what 360 does I'm pretty sure. There are only a few games that play in native 1080p.

I'm pretty sure there's no possible way upscaling's worse. It just upscales the resolution, but it won't make a huge difference I guess.
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[QUOTE="-Rinder-"]Upscaling to 1080p is worse than playing in 720p.. That's what 360 does I'm pretty sure. There are only a few games that play in native 1080p.FPS1337
I'm pretty sure there's no possible way upscaling's worse. It just upscales the resolution, but it won't make a huge difference I guess.

No, it can cause image distortion and things on screen may look funny. Basically your creating more pixels than there already was.

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#8 bezza2011
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it's nothing to do with the ps3 can't do 1080p, it comes down to the developers of the game and what they decide to put it in, due to not everyone has a 1080p tv, alot of developers make the games in a lower form instead, upscaling just stretches the image and doesn't enhance the image, so until all hdtv's become standard in 1080p no matter wot this is how it's going to be for awhile.

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it's nothing to do with the ps3 can't do 1080p, it comes down to the developers of the game and what they decide to put it in, due to not everyone has a 1080p tv, alot of developers make the games in a lower form instead, upscaling just stretches the image and doesn't enhance the image, so until all hdtv's become standard in 1080p no matter wot this is how it's going to be for awhile.

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Erm, no. Neither console does 1080p gaming because they're from 2006 and not powerful enough. Don't worry TC, xbox360 doesn't do 1080p either.
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I just played Mortal Kombat in native 1080P 60 fps.
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#11 Videodogg
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Try Wipeout, it is full 1080p and very sharp looking. But most PS3 games are native 720p, but most 1080p televisions, like mine will just upscale it to 1080p. No, you dont get a distorted image, every thing is fine. Stop worrying. If you had one of those older HDTV's that only supported 1080i, then you would have problems with many games downscaling to 480p.

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[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

it's nothing to do with the ps3 can't do 1080p, it comes down to the developers of the game and what they decide to put it in, due to not everyone has a 1080p tv, alot of developers make the games in a lower form instead, upscaling just stretches the image and doesn't enhance the image, so until all hdtv's become standard in 1080p no matter wot this is how it's going to be for awhile.

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Erm, no. Neither console does 1080p gaming because they're from 2006 and not powerful enough. Don't worry TC, xbox360 doesn't do 1080p either.

well thats completly wrong isn't it due to wipeout being 1080p, my whole system of ps3 can put out at 1080p, if you were so bothered and was actually to read up or just look at the back of a game box it tells you what the game plays in. it is the dev's and it is not the ps3 because it was made in 2006, hdtv's have been around for years its only the last few that they have been cheap enough for the average consumer to buy it.

ps3 can handle 1080p, it was designed to, with a 10year future plan. please next time when you say it, just make sure. because the few have just told you, the 360 is frew the component and only scales it up to 1080p. ps3 can be designed to that level and play, just some or most dev's don't. please get your facts right first.

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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="bezza2011"]

it's nothing to do with the ps3 can't do 1080p, it comes down to the developers of the game and what they decide to put it in, due to not everyone has a 1080p tv, alot of developers make the games in a lower form instead, upscaling just stretches the image and doesn't enhance the image, so until all hdtv's become standard in 1080p no matter wot this is how it's going to be for awhile.

bezza2011

Erm, no. Neither console does 1080p gaming because they're from 2006 and not powerful enough. Don't worry TC, xbox360 doesn't do 1080p either.

well thats completly wrong isn't it due to wipeout being 1080p, my whole system of ps3 can put out at 1080p, if you were so bothered and was actually to read up or just look at the back of a game box it tells you what the game plays in. it is the dev's and it is not the ps3 because it was made in 2006, hdtv's have been around for years its only the last few that they have been cheap enough for the average consumer to buy it.

ps3 can handle 1080p, it was designed to, with a 10year future plan. please next time when you say it, just make sure. because the few have just told you, the 360 is frew the component and only scales it up to 1080p. ps3 can be designed to that level and play, just some or most dev's don't. please get your facts right first.

Do you honestly believe all of that? kraken2109 is right. It has absolutely nothing to do with the availability of HDTVs. Let's take the example you used, Wipeout HD. I can play that on a 1080p tv, 720p tv, or even SDTV all at their maximum resolutions.. It can play the game in any of those resolutions with out a problem, and when you play it on a 1080p TV you actually are getting the full benefits of your full HD screen. Now, take for example, inFamous. Even if you play it on a modern 1080p screen, you're only going to get a 720p resolution stretched out on your screen. That's not good. The display won't be nearly as sharp as it could be.

Why is this? Because running a game at 1080p requires significantly more power than 720p, power that a PS3 simply doesn't have to spare when running a sandbox game like infamous. Just because the PS3 has the ability to output 1080p doesn't mean that it has the power to maintain a good frame rate while doing so in all games. Chances are, the computer you are using can output at 1920x1080 resolution if you connected a 1080p monitor to it. This won't be an issue for everyday use, but unless you have a powerful graphics card, you'll run into issues when gaming. If you were to play GTA4 on your computer with a 1080 screen, you'd be able to play it at 1080p, but you'd have terrible frame rates and the game will be VERY choppy. As a result, you'd have to lower the resolution to 720p to increase your frame rate. The same concept applies to the PS3. In fact, while running GTA4, the PS3 runs at 640p native in order to have a good frame rate.

Whether you want to admit it or not, the PS3's hardware is 5 years old, and that severely limits how it can play modern games. Current gen consoles are far from being true HD consoles, since most major games are run at 720p or less. Just because the PS3 will be supported for 10 years doesn't mean it's not going to age. Just last year, the PS2 had its 10th birthday. Nobody last year would've considered PS2 graphics to be good, the PS3 is going to be the same 5 years from now, and in fact it's already showing its age. That's why it's time for the PS4.

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Ok here's the skinny 360 and PS3 both have approximately enough power to run games in native 720p 360 has a chip that upscales this image to 1080p, PS3 does it thru software but takes a performance hit for doing so. In some games on PS3 they don't upscale because not enough performance to spare so it just runs at 720p. Many modern TV's have automatic upscaling hardware, if you feed them a 720p picture, they will take that picture and output 1080p. Upscaling sometimes looks worse than the native format, especially on bigger TV's.
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It looks bad when it upscales anyways, the 1080p native games look great though.
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#16 dk00111
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[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]Ok here's the skinny 360 and PS3 both have approximately enough power to run games in native 720p 360 has a chip that upscales this image to 1080p, PS3 does it thru software but takes a performance hit for doing so. In some games on PS3 they don't upscale because not enough performance to spare so it just runs at 720p. Many modern TV's have automatic upscaling hardware, if you feed them a 720p picture, they will take that picture and output 1080p. Upscaling sometimes looks worse than the native format, especially on bigger TV's.

This. A game that runs at 720p will actually look worse on a 1080p TV than a 720p TV. Now as far as running a 720p game on a 1080p screen, the image is going to be upscaled no matter what. The difference is that with an Xbox, the Xbox does the upscaling while with the PS3 the upscaling is left for the TV. Which one looks better depends on whether or not your TV is better at upscaling than an Xbox 360.
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#17 FPS1337
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Ya it shouldn't matter because my receiver upscales it to 1080p, it's weird though because for my wii which is at 720x480p it upscales it to 1920x1080p and says that resolution on the TV, for Wii, but for my PS3 it says it's at 1280x720 on the TV.
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no it doesn't, suprised? hahaha

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[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Erm, no. Neither console does 1080p gaming because they're from 2006 and not powerful enough. Don't worry TC, xbox360 doesn't do 1080p either.dk00111

well thats completly wrong isn't it due to wipeout being 1080p, my whole system of ps3 can put out at 1080p, if you were so bothered and was actually to read up or just look at the back of a game box it tells you what the game plays in. it is the dev's and it is not the ps3 because it was made in 2006, hdtv's have been around for years its only the last few that they have been cheap enough for the average consumer to buy it.

ps3 can handle 1080p, it was designed to, with a 10year future plan. please next time when you say it, just make sure. because the few have just told you, the 360 is frew the component and only scales it up to 1080p. ps3 can be designed to that level and play, just some or most dev's don't. please get your facts right first.

Do you honestly believe all of that? kraken2109 is right. It has absolutely nothing to do with the availability of HDTVs. Let's take the example you used, Wipeout HD. I can play that on a 1080p tv, 720p tv, or even SDTV all at their maximum resolutions.. It can play the game in any of those resolutions with out a problem, and when you play it on a 1080p TV you actually are getting the full benefits of your full HD screen. Now, take for example, inFamous. Even if you play it on a modern 1080p screen, you're only going to get a 720p resolution stretched out on your screen. That's not good. The display won't be nearly as sharp as it could be.

Why is this? Because running a game at 1080p requires significantly more power than 720p, power that a PS3 simply doesn't have to spare when running a sandbox game like infamous. Just because the PS3 has the ability to output 1080p doesn't mean that it has the power to maintain a good frame rate while doing so in all games. Chances are, the computer you are using can output at 1920x1080 resolution if you connected a 1080p monitor to it. This won't be an issue for everyday use, but unless you have a powerful graphics card, you'll run into issues when gaming. If you were to play GTA4 on your computer with a 1080 screen, you'd be able to play it at 1080p, but you'd have terrible frame rates and the game will be VERY choppy. As a result, you'd have to lower the resolution to 720p to increase your frame rate. The same concept applies to the PS3. In fact, while running GTA4, the PS3 runs at 640p native in order to have a good frame rate.

Whether you want to admit it or not, the PS3's hardware is 5 years old, and that severely limits how it can play modern games. Current gen consoles are far from being true HD consoles, since most major games are run at 720p or less. Just because the PS3 will be supported for 10 years doesn't mean it's not going to age. Just last year, the PS2 had its 10th birthday. Nobody last year would've considered PS2 graphics to be good, the PS3 is going to be the same 5 years from now, and in fact it's already showing its age. That's why it's time for the PS4.

I knew this site had fanboys, but i thought they stayed in system wars. Some people need to learn the limits of 5 year old hardware.
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Some games will play natively in 1080p but for most you'll have to upscale from 720p. I popped Bayonetta in the other day and noticed the native resolution was 1080p at 60fps whereas Enslaved: Odyssey to the West displays 720p at 30fps.

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It does that, yeh