PS3 new BC direction a good thing. =)

I am glad about the hardware changes in the PS3 for the European Market. I hope that the same changes will be on a global scale soon.

Like anyone who understands technology, its quite expensive to put a PS1 and PS2 chip in the PS3 just to run Backwards compatiblity. This was probably one of the reasons the price was higher than usual. Id say it was about a 40-50 USD increase just for the engineering to run that old hardware on the motherboard efficiently all while running the Cell processor, RSX, etc. Its a waste of space, money, and energy.

So with that in mind is 499 USD (20g) too much for a PS1 (49.99) PLUS a PS2 (129.99) inside of a PS3? Yes it is! Your true spendings for the PS3 would be much lower if you cut out all the other junk . Id say the price will drop by the end of the year for sure if they continue this trend.

I understand why Sony chose this alternate route and its because they are always thinking ahead.
Imagine the PS4 (if there ever will be) with 4 different processors running different eras of games! that would be so expensive and big! This move is obviously directed towards lower the PS3s price and size so more people can buy one. Cutting costs on this system will score more cash for Sony, and allow more gamers and casuals to buy this system and a reasonable price.

I love that about the 360 and im glad Sony took notice on the 360 for all the things they did right. You can play most of your games in higher definition because of software emulation and still keep the price down on the game machine. Its a great idea and should be welcomed with open arms, not hate.


abodaghee

I agree too that not including the old hardware and just have backwards compatability through emulation is the way too go. I love having BC so as long as everything works 100% i'm happy.

EDIT: quick note, I can't recall the link but I know I read somewhere that sony was going too do Backwards compatabilty through emulation from the beginning but that it was not going to be ready in time or somthing like that so Sony just put in the ps2 hardware for now.

"Someone who understands technology"? The EE+GS chip costs only about $30: http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919&m=11&y=2006 Yes, that does contribute to the price, but it's also the CHEAPEST component next to the Bluetooth module (about $5) and the motherboard mounting rack ($22).mjarantilla

"BIZ: Jack Tretton recently said the PS3 would be difficult to cost reduce, and yet a Japanese exec followed that by telling reporters that Sony would consider a price drop. What are the odds that we'll see a lower price on the PS3 this year?

PH: Well, I'm not sure about the context in which Jack made that comment... but the PS3 technology, as with any of our platforms, starts off life at a high price and then we engineer cost out of it.And that process is an investment that you make to combine chips into a single chip or to reduce components or combine components and redesign things, and that investment is part of our planned R&D effort to reduce cost. At the appropriate time and when we can afford to, the business model of the industry is to pass those savings onto the consumer, but we're a long way away from doing that yet."

you can see the interview here

"BIZ: Jack Tretton recently said the PS3 would be difficult to cost reduce, and yet a Japanese exec followed that by telling reporters that Sony would consider a price drop. What are the odds that we'll see a lower price on the PS3 this year?

PH: Well, I'm not sure about the context in which Jack made that comment... but the PS3 technology, as with any of our platforms, starts off life at a high price and then we engineer cost out of it.And that process is an investment that you make to combine chips into a single chip or to reduce components or combine components and redesign things, and that investment is part of our planned R&D effort to reduce cost. At the appropriate time and when we can afford to, the business model of the industry is to pass those savings onto the consumer, but we're a long way away from doing that yet."

you can see the interview here

[QUOTE="abodaghee"]I am glad about the hardware changes in the PS3 for the European Market. I hope that the same changes will be on a global scale soon.

Like anyone who understands technology, its quite expensive to put a PS1 and PS2 chip in the PS3 just to run Backwards compatiblity. This was probably one of the reasons the price was higher than usual. Id say it was about a 40-50 USD increase just for the engineering to run that old hardware on the motherboard efficiently all while running the Cell processor, RSX, etc. Its a waste of space, money, and energy.

So with that in mind is 499 USD (20g) too much for a PS1 (49.99) PLUS a PS2 (129.99) inside of a PS3? Yes it is! Your true spendings for the PS3 would be much lower if you cut out all the other junk . Id say the price will drop by the end of the year for sure if they continue this trend.

I understand why Sony chose this alternate route and its because they are always thinking ahead.
Imagine the PS4 (if there ever will be) with 4 different processors running different eras of games! that would be so expensive and big! This move is obviously directed towards lower the PS3s price and size so more people can buy one. Cutting costs on this system will score more cash for Sony, and allow more gamers and casuals to buy this system and a reasonable price.

I love that about the 360 and im glad Sony took notice on the 360 for all the things they did right. You can play most of your games in higher definition because of software emulation and still keep the price down on the game machine. Its a great idea and should be welcomed with open arms, not hate.


mjarantilla

"BIZ: Jack Tretton recently said the PS3 would be difficult to cost reduce, and yet a Japanese exec followed that by telling reporters that Sony would consider a price drop. What are the odds that we'll see a lower price on the PS3 this year?

PH: Well, I'm not sure about the context in which Jack made that comment... but the PS3 technology, as with any of our platforms, starts off life at a high price and then we engineer cost out of it.And that process is an investment that you make to combine chips into a single chip or to reduce components or combine components and redesign things, and that investment is part of our planned R&D effort to reduce cost. At the appropriate time and when we can afford to, the business model of the industry is to pass those savings onto the consumer, but we're a long way away from doing that yet."

you can see the interview here

I am glad about the hardware changes in the PS3 for the European Market. I hope that the same changes will be on a global scale soon.

Like anyone who understands technology, its quite expensive to put a PS1 and PS2 chip in the PS3 just to run Backwards compatiblity. This was probably one of the reasons the price was higher than usual. Id say it was about a 40-50 USD increase just for the engineering to run that old hardware on the motherboard efficiently all while running the Cell processor, RSX, etc. Its a waste of space, money, and energy.

So with that in mind is 499 USD (20g) too much for a PS1 (49.99) PLUS a PS2 (129.99) inside of a PS3? Yes it is! Your true spendings for the PS3 would be much lower if you cut out all the other junk . Id say the price will drop by the end of the year for sure if they continue this trend.

I understand why Sony chose this alternate route and its because they are always thinking ahead.
Imagine the PS4 (if there ever will be) with 4 different processors running different eras of games! that would be so expensive and big! This move is obviously directed towards lower the PS3s price and size so more people can buy one. Cutting costs on this system will score more cash for Sony, and allow more gamers and casuals to buy this system and a reasonable price.

I love that about the 360 and im glad Sony took notice on the 360 for all the things they did right. You can play most of your games in higher definition because of software emulation and still keep the price down on the game machine. Its a great idea and should be welcomed with open arms, not hate.


abodaghee

huh? dude u make no sense at all. we arent payin 50 for PS1 hardware nor 130 for PS2! WTF kinda argument is that? u think the emotion engine alone is worth 130? cuz last time i checked it was shipped in a PS2 and came with a controller for that price! and yo how is it better? europeans are gonna end up paying much more for PS3 (at least $200 to $300 USD more) and your whole argument was that having the full BC is why the price is high, and now they're makin it half-ass and its MORE now? doesnt make sense. dont make up BS n post it...

I am glad about the hardware changes in the PS3 for the European Market. I hope that the same changes will be on a global scale soon.

Like anyone who understands technology, its quite expensive to put a PS1 and PS2 chip in the PS3 just to run Backwards compatiblity. This was probably one of the reasons the price was higher than usual. Id say it was about a 40-50 USD increase just for the engineering to run that old hardware on the motherboard efficiently all while running the Cell processor, RSX, etc. Its a waste of space, money, and energy.

So with that in mind is 499 USD (20g) too much for a PS1 (49.99) PLUS a PS2 (129.99) inside of a PS3? Yes it is! Your true spendings for the PS3 would be much lower if you cut out all the other junk . Id say the price will drop by the end of the year for sure if they continue this trend.

I understand why Sony chose this alternate route and its because they are always thinking ahead.
Imagine the PS4 (if there ever will be) with 4 different processors running different eras of games! that would be so expensive and big! This move is obviously directed towards lower the PS3s price and size so more people can buy one. Cutting costs on this system will score more cash for Sony, and allow more gamers and casuals to buy this system and a reasonable price.

I love that about the 360 and im glad Sony took notice on the 360 for all the things they did right. You can play most of your games in higher definition because of software emulation and still keep the price down on the game machine. Its a great idea and should be welcomed with open arms, not hate.



abodaghee

It makes sense.  If they do that they can lower their production costs.  If they lower the amount of money they use to make each console, and sell it for the same price they make more of a profit.  Then farther down the line they can give the consumers a price drop.  These alteration in the hardware are always happening.  Like changing the cell from 95nn to 65nn(not sure if I got the sizes right or letters) reducing size, heat, and cost of production.  They can then pass it on to the consumer.EMERlCa6969

I know, it does make sesne to save money on costs and pass it down to the consumer, but I was just saying that the fact its backwards compatible isnt the reason for such a major price tag, as the chips used in the PS3 arent that expensive and they definitely dont cost like 129.99 for the PS2. Im just sayin that, thats not the reason why the prices are high, cuz the european market will end up paying more USD.

ps2 games will probably completely stop selling now nobody can play them on ps3s in europealex1889