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A lot of threads have been circling about asking whether or not people can play their PS3 through their monitor.
With this thread I aim to answer these questions so that the short attention-spanned people you can't use the search feature can stop posting so many damned threads.
This thread will pretty much just be a Q&A to meet the demmands of the users with the short attention span.


Can I play on my PS3 using my PC monitor?
I have mentioned about HDMI to VGA adaptors at the end.

If you have a widescreen monitor with a DVI port then you can.
For Just Playing Games
Simply get hold of a HDMI/DVI cable and stick the ends into the corresponding holes of your monitor and PS3.
When you turn on your PS3 hold the PS button down to make your PS3 automatically detect output settings, that's it!
You can pretty much skip to the bottom of the guide about sound now.
If you are not using a widescreen monitor (not reccomended) I have wrote about the problems at the end.

Playing Blu-Ray movies

If you want to play Blu-Ray movies y
ou need a monitor with a HDCP(High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) compliant DVI port. This is not needed for games but you will be needing it for blu-ray.
If you are unsure if you have one or not then google (Yes, I know this requires not only
effort, but also searching ) the brand and model name of your monitor (e.g Samsung SM205bw). Look around at the specifications on various sites, press 'CTRL + F' then type in HDCP.

Important Notes
It has come to my attention that it is quite possible you need HDCP to play 1080p games and watch 1080p movies. It is also quite possible that you can watch Blu-Ray movies at 720p without HDCP.
My advice is just to get a HDCP monitor and save yourself of any restrictions.

*Please don't go looking at non-widescreen monitors then complain about not being able to find a monitor with a HDCP compliant DVI port.*



This is a DVI port, you cannot tell by looking at it if it is HDCP compliant


I have a monitor with a HDCP compliant DVI port, now what?
Now you simply need to find a HDMI/DVI cable, these are really easy to find and extremley cheap, just head on over to amazon, don't bother forking out extra cash for a 'higher-quality' cable, it's all digital so no quality should be lost anyway, at most all you should be getting is some magnetic shielding.Hook up your PS3 and monitor, head to the display settings on your PS3 and detect the optimal settings, it should go all the way up to 1080p with most monitors, though it will be 'shrank' down to the native resolution of the monitor.
Someone mentioned that it would be better to get a HDMI/HDMI cable with a HDMI/DVI adapter, this way if you decide to get a HDTV and start playing on that you still have a perfectly good HDMI cable. It's a good point, something I never considered, so if you're monitor is just a temporary solution, a HDMI/HDMI cable + HDMI/DVI adapter should probably be your preffered choice.

Does it look better than SDTV?
Yes,you will have at least 720p (1280*720) upscaled (stretched) to your native resolution.Your monitor will most probably accept 1080p(1920*1080) input signal and will downscale (shrink) it to your native resolution.
In short yes it will look awesome.


What about sound?
Some of you may know that DVI does not carry sound like HDMI does.
To achieve sound the two cheapest options are to play it through your desktop speakers, or play it through speakers built into your monitor. Now I've never owned a monitor with built-in speakers, but I'm going to assume it has a cable that plugs into your PC and so the same method applies.

You will be using the component cables for this method (the red white and yellow ones, you know, like the PS2 had).
You will be needing some extra hardware for this method and they are as follows:

RCA/3.5mm mini-jack adaptor

I don't know what electronics shops are big in america and as most users here I believe are american the best I can do is tell you to look around. Do a google search for a "phono rca male stereo adaptor"
You want one looking like the one above, it has two female RCA inputs, and one stereo 3.5m male output (the input/output part of that sentance isn't necessary but I didn't know how to structure the sentance otherwise).

Plug the red and white parts of you component cable into red and white parts of the adaptor.
Now you need a...

3.5mm mini-jack coupler

Again, I dont know where you guys shop but doing a google search for "Stereo Coupler" should suffice.
Stick the male (pointy) part of both the adaptor and your speakers into the coupler, select the relevant options under audio settings and you should have sound through your desktop speakers.

I reccomend using gold plated adaptors if you can get them, this reduces the amount of quality lost through all these various connections.

This method will only achieve stereo sound.


How do I achieve Surround Sound?
The only way your going to be getting full surround sound is via optical or HDMI, now the safest option for you is to take a look at the Logitech Digital series of speakers.
These are a line of 5.1 surround sound speakers, with a bunch of stuff you don't know about but basically they sound great and have optical input so you can plug them into your PS3.
At current I think there are 3 tiers of these speakers;

The Z-5400, the cheapest option.
These have less power than their brothers but are still feature-tastic and possibly one of the best buys in audio @ ~£130

The Z-5450, the middle ground
The same as the Z-5400 but with wireless rear speakers.

The Z-5500, top end
More power, more features, more money.


Any reccomendations for monitors?
I currently use a Samsung SM205BW, the SM206BW are an improved version of this and about the same price, a great feature called "MagicColour" so my reccomendation goes to those.


What are the negatives of using a monitor over a HDTV?

In my opinion, there is only one negative.
Because the screen ratio of HD resolutions is 16:9, and widescreen monitors at current have a screen ratio of 16:10 you will find that the picture you see will be squashed a little, as the picture on a monitor simply isn't wide enough.
This means the images you see will be slightly taller and out of proportion to what was designed, the difference is so slight though, that I'm not going to show you any comparison pictures, if someone wants to make them I'll stick them up here.

Not 720p, or 1080p, it's somewhere inbetween.
If you have or are going to buy a widescreen monitor it's probably going to be 1680*1050, or 1920*1200.
Basically your screen is going to be stretched or shrank one way or another, this shouldn't be something that should bother you, it's like changing the resolution on your down a bit, you'll notice that things may look a little stretched. This is because LCD monitors can only output one resolution which is their native resolution and images are stretched to fit.


Can I play through a VGA port on my monitor?
It's not impossible to play on your mointor through the VGA port, but it is very costly.
There are a couple of devices knocking around the internet that say they will convert HDMI to VGA and ouput full 1080p.
These device are extremley expensive ($150/£150) and it's probably going to be a better option simply to buy a new monitor. These devices were made for people who have bought an expensive TV or Projector in the past that was promising HD resolutions, these cost quite a lot but not all of them came with HDMI interfaces so these kind of devices are the only real option for them.
I don't know anyone who has bought one of these devices so I can't comment on their flaws, I can only guess at an increased latency.

HDfury (america),
Generic HDMI/VGA converter (UK)

Problems with non-widescreen monitors

If you are going to use the converter option above and you have a monitor that IS NOT widescreen (1280*1024) then it should be noted that your image will look VERY distorted.
This is because the 16:9 screen ratio of the signal input is being squashed into a 4:3 sceren ratio which makes everything look out of proportion and generally taller.
The images below show you what I mean.


The input signal - what it should look like


What it will look like when stretched on your monitor

I think that's it, I reckon I've covered everything, any feedback is more than welcome, spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes are greatly appreciated. Especially notify me on anythign I've missed out or is wrong, basically just feedback throw it all at me I dont mind. Hopefully this thread will become a refrence for people trying to achieve PS3 on their PC monitor.
I know I was a bit rude to the people who basically need this, my excuse is that I typed this in Opera, where CTRL + SPACE causes the page to refresh.

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#2 brownwhale
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can I find the cable you said about at a radio shack or wall mart?
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#4 hazelnutman
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needs a stickie now
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#5 LtColJaxson
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Yeah, should have a sticky.

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#6 boostud
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If you want one even cheaper than what you'll find on amazon, try this out

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2

I have one for our laptop to hook it up to the TV. You will get the package in 2-3 days and its top notch quality. Don't waste your money on expensive ones. Like this guy said, its digital. 0's and 1's. You can't lose quality in digital.

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#7 psyum
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wow great dude :D nice job ;)

sticky !! sticky!!! sticky!!!

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#8 gowthamspa
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This is so helpful. It should be made into sticky.
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#9 thebestMGer
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Bump. Deserves a sticky.
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#10 Samulies
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So does this make it possible to have both my PS3 and PC using the same speakers?
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#11 Terami
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So does this make it possible to have both my PS3 and PC using the same speakers?Samulies
Yes. I have the Z5500 speakers he mentioned and it is possible to have 5 separate connections. ...Only one optical though. :/

These speakers are well worth the money spent as they can compete with some home theatre systems, performance wise.

To the OP, great idea... As it's been said, this needs a sticky/help thread.

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#12 Silverdragon17
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I'm currently using a dell soundbar attached to my dell 22" monitor. (1080P). They work find as regular speakers at $35 (as cheap as $9 or so online). It looks like it's time for me to upgrade now.

The new dell monitors come with hdmi ports so they work really well with the PS3. I'm currently using a dvi to hdmi cable for the moment. Is a hdmi cable any better or worth buying instead of an hdmi to dvi cable?

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Can I play on my PS3 using my PC monitor?
I have mentioned about HDMI to VGA adaptors at the end.

If you have a widescreen monitor with a DVI port then you can.
For Just Playing Games
Simply get hold of a HDMI/DVI cable and stick the ends into the corresponding holes of your monitor and PS3.
When you turn on your PS3 hold the PS button down to make your PS3 automatically detect output settings, that's it!
You can pretty much skip to the bottom of the guide about sound now.
If you are not using a widescreen monitor (not reccomended) I have wrote about the problems at the end.

Are you sure you only need hdcp support to play bluray movies and not for gaming?

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Can I play on my PS3 using my PC monitor?
I have mentioned about HDMI to VGA adaptors at the end.

If you have a widescreen monitor with a DVI port then you can.
For Just Playing Games
Simply get hold of a HDMI/DVI cable and stick the ends into the corresponding holes of your monitor and PS3.
When you turn on your PS3 hold the PS button down to make your PS3 automatically detect output settings, that's it!
You can pretty much skip to the bottom of the guide about sound now.
If you are not using a widescreen monitor (not reccomended) I have wrote about the problems at the end.

Are you sure you only need hdcp support to play bluray movies and not for gaming?

melvinvth


Not 100%, I was told by someone and I was under the impression he had first hand experince.
I should probably note that in the post, I'd hate someone to waste $200 on a new monitor!! Thanks :P
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#15 Dayblade
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So is it confimed yet that you have to have the HDCP monitor or does just resetting the PS3 (powerbutton "input cycle" beep) actually work for those monitors that are not HDCP compliant (Samsung 19" 940BW)? Thanks again guys. Dayblade
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#16 JAMullins
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If I use the DVI connection with a DVI female to VGA Male connector

DVI female to VGA Male

on the back on my monitor with the XCM 1080P VGA box will it make it look better then using just a straight vga connection from my monitor with the vga box?

http://xcm.cc/xcm_1080p_vga_box.htm

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#17 HotKillaz
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Great, thank you! But do you know any places where I can find that:

Gold 3.5mm Stereo Jack Coupler


Because I do not want to use my credit card on Maplin. (Link)

I've tried Google, eBay, no luck.
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wow great dude :D nice job ;)

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STICKY!!!!!!! awesome thread.

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#19 moshakirby
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Great, thank you! But do you know any places where I can find that:

Gold 3.5mm Stereo Jack Coupler


Because I do not want to use my credit card on Maplin. (Link)

I've tried Google, eBay, no luck.HotKillaz


I think I got mine from amazon.
Quite a lot pops up (that isn't Maplin) for "3.5mm coupler" unless you don't want to use a credit card at all in which case I can't see any major electronics stores (Dixons etc) selling couplers, though you can try asking as they may have something behind counter.
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#20 HotKillaz
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[QUOTE="HotKillaz"]Great, thank you! But do you know any places where I can find that:

Gold 3.5mm Stereo Jack Coupler


Because I do not want to use my credit card on Maplin. (Link)

I've tried Google, eBay, no luck.moshakirby


I think I got mine from amazon.
Quite a lot pops up (that isn't Maplin) for "3.5mm coupler" unless you don't want to use a credit card at all in which case I can't see any major electronics stores (Dixons etc) selling couplers, though you can try asking as they may have something behind counter.



I found lots of couplers, but not gold plated. :o
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i found a website with HDMI cables for about $15 a piece and since you said the quality is always the same its a good buy just google cyberxlink they also got some really good routers and eithernet cords and usb
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#22 HotKillaz
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i found a website with HDMI cables for about $15 a piece and since you said the quality is always the same its a good buy just google cyberxlink they also got some really good routers and eithernet cords and usbjeremiah06

I bought this.

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#23 Scroll-Lock
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Great thread. I'm currently using the VGA for my 360 and already have a sound solution and I've got my pc on the DVI.

I've seen this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HQ-AVSWITCH-10-Port-DVI-Switch/dp/B000GTLFS6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1210548724&sr=1-4

Should do the job fine right?

Oh and I've got Samsung 223bw that looks near identical to the thread starter!

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#24 Scroll-Lock
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Slight problem. When I run in 720p the edges of the image are cut off but when I go into 1080p it seems fine but the monitor keeps telling me that it isn't the optimal settting.

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#25 HotKillaz
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You are great, moshakirby! I followed your guide step-by-step and today (since two weeks) I am finally running my PS3 with sound + video on my monitor! I love you! GTAIV looks great! :D

I bought the following:

6FT GOLD HDMI TO DVI-D (Ebay)
Mini Jack 3.5mm Male to 2x RCA Phono Female Adaptor
3.5mm Stereo Coupler Jack to Jack (Female-Female)

It works JUST GREAT!! THANK YOU AGAIN!
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#26 HotKillaz
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Here's a few images (Sorry for the blurry quality):

http://i31.tinypic.com/e9gc21.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/294p35v.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/zu13sk.jpg

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#27 ginraisama
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i vote this thread for a sticky!! :|
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#28 iDIVIDEBYZER0
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I have an old Dell 2005fpw that cant do 1080p anyways, its not HDCP. Do you still need HDCP for 720p GAMES? I have no plans on watching movies.
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#29 drmillah11
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Hey guys, Found this trend from a google search and its very helpfull so thank you to the op.

I hope you dont mind if i ask one or 2 quick questions?

I have this moniter http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5123

It has a dvi input but it says its for audio?? will this input work? also will the image be highly distorted?

Now i think i have this understood but i just want to conferm, The hdmi/dvi cable goes from the ps3 to the moniter - we now have video.

Then the other AV cable that comes with the ps3 you plug that into the back and use the 2 sound cables from it and use an exturnal sound sorce for them? is that all yea?

Thanks guys

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#30 akshayroyden
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Awesome info....:D

Thank you

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Hey guys, Found this trend from a google search and its very helpfull so thank you to the op.

I hope you dont mind if i ask one or 2 quick questions?

I have this moniter http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5123

It has a dvi input but it says its for audio?? will this input work? also will the image be highly distorted?

Now i think i have this understood but i just want to conferm, The hdmi/dvi cable goes from the ps3 to the moniter - we now have video.

Then the other AV cable that comes with the ps3 you plug that into the back and use the 2 sound cables from it and use an exturnal sound sorce for them? is that all yea?

Thanks guys

drmillah11


That monitor will work great. Just get a HDMI/DVI cable and your set (for video at least). The image wont be highly distorted at all.

And yes use the AV cable into an external sound source, or you can use optical if you have the hardware.
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[QUOTE="drmillah11"]

Hey guys, Found this trend from a google search and its very helpfull so thank you to the op.

I hope you dont mind if i ask one or 2 quick questions?

I have this moniter http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-5123

It has a dvi input but it says its for audio?? will this input work? also will the image be highly distorted?

Now i think i have this understood but i just want to conferm, The hdmi/dvi cable goes from the ps3 to the moniter - we now have video.

Then the other AV cable that comes with the ps3 you plug that into the back and use the 2 sound cables from it and use an exturnal sound sorce for them? is that all yea?

Thanks guys

moshakirby18



That monitor will work great. Just get a HDMI/DVI cable and your set (for video at least). The image wont be highly distorted at all.

And yes use the AV cable into an external sound source, or you can use optical if you have the hardware.

Thats fantastic. I will have no problem sorting the sound as 'sound' is the area i am most known to with computers etc and i have a mixer which all the inputs go into nicely. I ordered on of them dvi to hdim cables a minute ago and it should be here in the next few days!

It will be much better than playing the ps3 on a 14inch crt ****tv thats about 10 years old haha

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Hey i brought a HDMI > DVI-D but when i conenct it to my monitor HP w19E i get a input not supported wtf??
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#34 p4ddym
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Could somone answer this question for me...

I have a HDMI to DVI cable and when i plugged it into my monitor it didnt work. My monitor is no HDCP compliant but

moshakirby has written that you only need HDCP when playing bluray movies. I am pretty sure that is not true. Any help?

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#35 lilzero1337
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Yeah i found out mine isnt HDCP either, so can anyone help me and p4ddym?
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#36 moshakirby18
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I can't edit my thread...wait it's not my thraed because I was banned (for ridiculous reasons of sarcasm not translating propperly across the net).

Anyway, you NEED a HDCP compliant monitor.
Mods, please edit my original post,
also, please do not ban this account because "moshakirby18" is the same as "moshakirby".

THANKS!
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#37 topraman517
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Fantastic guide. Thank you very much!
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#38 HotKillaz
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Yes, unfortunately you are going to need a HDCP compliant monitor. Please note that your monitor is most likely to be HDCP compliant if it is 20" or higher and was manufactured in 2007~2008.

If you don't know your monitor model number, you are going to have to use Belarc Advisor which will find the exact model number of your monitor without any problems.
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bump sticky please.
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#40 Airsoul
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Great, nice advice.
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#42 HotKillaz
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I'd recommend a sticky of this thread!
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#43 zeon877
Member since 2007 • 25 Posts
does a S2409W 24 inch full hd widescreen flat panerl monitor need a desktop to use the screen for playstation 3 or any other other parts?
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#44 RiotAbandonment
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I'm so glad I found this topic but I was wondering if there's another part I can add here.

Once the RCA Adapter and the Stereo Phono are connected I wanted to use my USB Headset for sound.

1) Can I get sound if I just plug it in to my PS3 after I've followed all of the steps or.

2) Do I need to get a male jack to usb connector in order to ensure I receive sound through my headset?

3) Or hook up a USB Speaker into the PS3 and then allow my headset as an input and output device and get the sound that way?

If someone can answer this it would really make things clear for me.

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#45 Sailor_Enlil
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What are the negatives of using a monitor over a HDTV?
In my opinion, there is only one negative.
Because the screen ratio of HD resolutions is 16:9, and widescreen monitors at current have a screen ratio of 16:10 you will find that the picture you see will be squashed a little, as the picture on a monitor simply isn't wide enough.
This means the images you see will be slightly taller and out of proportion to what was designed, the difference is so slight though, that I'm not going to show you any comparison pictures, if someone wants to make them I'll stick them up here.

Not 720p, or 1080p, it's somewhere inbetween.
If you have or are going to buy a widescreen monitor it's probably going to be 1680*1050, or 1920*1200.
Basically your screen is going to be stretched or shrank one way or another, this shouldn't be something that should bother you, it's like changing the resolution on your down a bit, you'll notice that things may look a little stretched. This is because LCD monitors can only output one resolution which is their native resolution and images are stretched to fit.

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I had that problem at first with my Acer P241w Widescreen LCD Monitor (which is actually 16:10 / 1920x1200), until I saw an option in the monitor's OSD Menu under Input Source - the "Wide Mode" option, which has a choice of Full, Aspect, and 1:1. The default setting of Full will stretch the video to the monitor's full resolution, thus 16:9 video becomes a little tall, while 4:3 video (eg from a DVD or .avi file, or from PS1/PS2 games) becomes "fat" (as some applicance stores tend to show on widescreen TV's). Changing this setting to Aspect does what the term implies: maintain Aspect Ratio, so 16:9 is maintained at 16:9, but with either a black stripe on the bottom (which usually happens in my case), or two thinner black stripes, one above and one below the video, similar effect to the letterboxed 16:9 video in a 4:3 display, while 4:3 video is maintained but with vertical black stripes on either side of the video. 1:1 basically maintains the video's resolution and will not blow it up to fit the display (so I don't use it especially for DVD movies).

So basically, if you're going to use a monitor, check if this option is available.

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#46 djDeeG1rl
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thanks a lot for the instructions! but anyhow i still dont get the audio from my ps3. i'm using speakers that are hooked up to a subwoofer, does that create a problem? and also, aside from not getting the audio, by following the audio set-up does that mean everytime i need audio for my pc, i would need to unplug the green speaker jack from the coupler and plug it back to my cpu? please help! thanks!