PS3 PES2008 - You've really let me down!

I honestly feel like crying. Today is the reason why i bought my PS3 in the first place. I have always been a playstation fan, so I decided to go for PS3 over the other consoles. Today sees the release of PES2008. Oh dear.

First of all I know im gonna get absolutely slated here for daring to speak the truth, but here goes.

I read in a couple of reviews that PES has frame rate issues but thought that they cant be too bad as IGN has given it a 9.2, boy was i wrong. Its not too bad during open play, but if you want to enjoy a replay of that amazing goal you just scored...tough, you can't. Replays are terrible. The slow down is unbelievable and it takes any pride away from the goal you have just scored to see it destroyed in this way.

Online - doesn't work. Tried to play online this morning and it was a complete waste of time. All the players just stand around for literally 2 mins, then they go 1000mph round the screen, and its a goal! What a joke! Meanwhile some of my other friends are having a great time playing each other on the console that shall not be named.

Now im normally the one defending PS3, but im running out of excuses. And before you ask yes i have installed the game and turned off all those features in the XMB to try and improve the frame rate. Now i know what a lot of you guys are gonna say; lazy developers take time to learn the cell and get the best out of it. Well wake up!!!! Its been a year now, im not sure how long I can put up with mediocrity. I thought they would have had it sorted by now.

A disappointed PS3 owner

reply is not that important since the i always press start for any reply. and they said that they will fix the online.

so stop complaining. if u don't like ur ps3 just F convert to any other conesole

i was just like you mate .. believe me ..buy fifa this tima they´re on the top.. i´m a trully dissapointed ex - PES fan FIFA really owned pes this time..a footbal fan speaking here..helysandoval

PES has some issue but it's still better than Fifa.....

hey... fifa sucks. (period)

i have got PES for my pc... why would i ever buy a game for a console that is already on the pc? exclusivity is what makes me buy games... well, that and Rock Band :P

i was just like you mate .. believe me ..buy fifa this tima they´re on the top.. i´m a trully dissapointed PES fan FIFA really owned pes this time..a footbal fan speaking here..helysandoval

I have to agree.. i've beena pro fan since 98 (iss pro) but this year i played both and decided to go with fifa seriously you should all give it a shot and play around with the camera its a great game. Pro is still very good though.. maybe next year i'll go pro again.

guys seriously...relax and play a while before you judge it. ive been playing every pes since pes2, and everytime theres a new version out its the same thing "teh controlss suxxors!" "its soooo hard", in a few weeks when youre used it it you wont even kno the differences exist anymore.

after every version you always attempt to play exactly the same way as the version before. learn to play the game before you guys make judgements.

after two games a friend and i were putting up 4-3, 3-1 scores quite often. however i do agree there is slowdown when you do replays, but think about this, have you ever heard about patches before?! soon enough we will definately be able to upload those patches to our ps3s fixing any issues. matter of fact, heres a link right here with a patch on the way http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/news-6754.html. online play? patch is gonna fix that. honestly quit your whining like a baby and give yourself the chance to enjoy a great game. owned. so sick of these threads already.

guys seriously...relax and play a while before you judge it. ive been playing every pes since pes2, and everytime theres a new version out its the same thing "teh controlss suxxors!" "its soooo hard", in a few weeks when youre used it it you wont even kno the differences exist anymore.

after every version you always attempt to play exactly the same way as the version before. learn to play the game before you guys make judgements.

after two games a friend and i were putting up 4-3, 3-1 scores quite often. however i do agree there is slowdown when you do replays, but think about this, have you ever heard about patches before?! soon enough we will definately be able to upload those patches to our ps3s fixing any issues. matter of fact, heres a link right here with a patch on the way http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/news-6754.html. online play? patch is gonna fix that. honestly quit your whining like a baby and give yourself the chance to enjoy a great game. owned. so sick of these threads already.

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The fact that you said "owned" at the end of your thread means that your opinion is not valid. And in response to your comments, im not talking about the tweaks in the gameplay. I too have been buying pro evo every year since i had ISS on the SNES, this topic is not about that. I appreciate the subtle changes and i know they take to get used to, that what makes the game different every year, stupid.

What im talking about here is the performance of the game. It blows. I have been playing this game for 3 hours now, and at least once every couple of minutes I am drawn to the fact that the game slows down.I really like this new PES, it plays really well, but i cannot immerse myself in the game like you can in previous PES games becauase the fundamentalframe rate issuesdraw your attention all the time. FACT

As for online, i have no doubts they will fix it, it just would have been nice to buy a game that was finished when i bought it.

guys seriously...relax and play a while before you judge it. ive been playing every pes since pes2, and everytime theres a new version out its the same thing "teh controlss suxxors!" "its soooo hard", in a few weeks when youre used it it you wont even kno the differences exist anymore.

after every version you always attempt to play exactly the same way as the version before. learn to play the game before you guys make judgements.

after two games a friend and i were putting up 4-3, 3-1 scores quite often. however i do agree there is slowdown when you do replays, but think about this, have you ever heard about patches before?! soon enough we will definately be able to upload those patches to our ps3s fixing any issues. matter of fact, heres a link right here with a patch on the way http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/news-6754.html. online play? patch is gonna fix that. honestly quit your whining like a baby and give yourself the chance to enjoy a great game. owned. so sick of these threads already.

hattyporter

Well said. I've posted this several times but anyway here I go again: WHAT'S THE POINT IN BUYING PES2008 AND EXPECTING IT TO PLAY LIKE PES6? You all ways want the next version to be harder. If it wasn't then why would you bother buying it.

I've seen the gameplay footage on a couple of sites and to be honest I think people are over-reacting about the frame rate issues.

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guys seriously...relax and play a while before you judge it. ive been playing every pes since pes2, and everytime theres a new version out its the same thing "teh controlss suxxors!" "its soooo hard", in a few weeks when youre used it it you wont even kno the differences exist anymore.

after every version you always attempt to play exactly the same way as the version before. learn to play the game before you guys make judgements.

after two games a friend and i were putting up 4-3, 3-1 scores quite often. however i do agree there is slowdown when you do replays, but think about this, have you ever heard about patches before?! soon enough we will definately be able to upload those patches to our ps3s fixing any issues. matter of fact, heres a link right here with a patch on the way http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/news-6754.html. online play? patch is gonna fix that. honestly quit your whining like a baby and give yourself the chance to enjoy a great game. owned. so sick of these threads already.

Liams

Well said. I've posted this several times but anyway here I go again: WHAT'S THE POINT IN BUYING PES2008 AND EXPECTING IT TO PLAY LIKE PES6? You all ways want the next version to be harder. If it wasn't then why would you bother buying it.

I've seen the gameplay footage on a couple of sites and to be honest I think people are over-reacting about the frame rate issues.

We are not talking about the gameplay tweaks!!!!!

ok, point granted that we are not talking about gameplay tweaks. but i did address your points specifically in my post, regarding both the framerate issues, and online. framerate issues/slowdown ive only encountered on the replays, not during ingame play. and i think i can safely assume its the same for you based on your first post,

"Replays are terrible. The slow down is unbelievable and it takes any pride away from the goal you have just scored to see it destroyed in this way."

from my personal experience so far, the slowdown only happens every once in a while, but ive found out that if i save the highlights and then reload them to watchthere arent any framerate issues at all anymore. i hope this helps when you want to watch that well earned goal you scored against your mate.

btw, you didnt have to take it to a personal level by calling me stupid. everyone knows that this forum has been flooded with the same posts "frameratezzz!"but in hindsight i can see how you would get angry at my first post i probably should have been more delicate withmy response.

I just got a bit miffed that my point appeared to have been dismissed. No problem.

The replay thing is really annoying though, because it does take the realism completely out of the game, and you cannot get a smooth replay from a good angle without it juddering. I honestly think that they could have ironed this out, i mean its not like this game is a graphical marvel like heavenly sword, this should have been possible to do with no slow down at all, and thats what im most annoyed about.

And don't get me wrong people, this game is still definitely worth a purchase, im having fun playing it, despite its issues. It is a fine update to PES6, im just hacked off that us PS3 owners seems to have gotten the raw deal, AGAIN.

I'm not disapponted because the slow downs are only replay.... in-game is perfect! I love PES

Well its fine for me, maybe it only works best on a HDTV?Game_Lover500

Its nothing to do with the display. And you will be having exactly the same issues as you have exactly the same hardware as the rest of us, you just choose to ignore it.

Umm no, I would admit it if there were any issues, only on the replays for me, has anyone downloaded that thing you can install? I did and it got worse so I deleted itGame_Lover500

so if you install it becomes worse? however I scanned my face with the cam.... wow

I´m a big fan of the PES series, been playing them since International Super Star Soccer for SNES, but after all I´ve read here I´m not quite sure about getting this one. You see, where I live games cost over a hundred bucks, and that´s a whole lotta cash around here. So I was wondering if anyone here who has bought it could tell me if this framerate issue is such a major deal or not, I mean if you can still enjoy the game anyways. PES is (or WAS??) actually one of my main reasons for getting a Ps3 (along with metal gear, DMC, Assassin´s creed, etc), so it would really suck big time if this game turned out bad.

Konami is working on a patch...

It's due 30th - 5th of November, not sure wether that's only for the online lag issue.

So don't give up, PES2008 is a rushed game, even the dev said thats all he could do given the limited time frame.

PES2009 will be a hell lot better, as the general idea's and such have allready started.

Check out CVG site there's a nice interview over there.

reply is not that important since the i always press start for any reply. and they said that they will fix the online.

so stop complaining. if u don't like ur ps3 just F convert to any other conesole

rm_fc

Sure, it's nice that they are going to fix the online, but when you pay over 60 goddamn dollars for a game, you expect it to work!

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reply is not that important since the i always press start for any reply. and they said that they will fix the online.

so stop complaining. if u don't like ur ps3 just F convert to any other conesole

Quadrifoglio

Sure, it's nice that they are going to fix the online, but when you pay over 60 goddamn dollars for a game, you expect it to work!

Well its random how you notice it

In-game match is fine..... if they fix online the game is really good! Remember that this is the First PES on ps3

Yeah gregdrapes if some of your friends have a 360 have you played pro evo 2008 on it? And whats it like? does it have any framerate issues also? Because this is literally my favourite game and if it works perfectly on the 360 I think imight sell up and buy one. I'm THAT annoyed.smidsy85

They say they have no framerate issues at all, and judging by the 360 reviews they are right, its just PS3.

I believe Konami has issued an apology to PES08 players on PS3 and promises an update patch coming.

Maybe someone can go online and search it a little bit. Too lazy here.

God damnit!!!!!!!! I have been so looking forward to this game,... is it really true about the framerate issue???!!!!

I am online on PS3,.. but not for my 360,.... I refuse to pay for an online subscription,.....

I still may buy it on 360,.. if it really is that bad on PS3,..... oh I'm confused!!!!!!:roll:

Yeah I tried installing it and there was no difference. If you have a 360 get it for that apparently its only the replays that suffer on that.smidsy85

Neither the 360 or PS3 should have to suffer from Framerate issues, this is lousy programming!

frame rate slowdowns and online issues are both on 360 and ps3...... however offline is a drug! I'm loving it