PSP Develper support (VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE)

I was going through the release dates of all the consoles and it confirmed what i think alot of us already know, the psp is getting much less developer support than the other consoles. The psp has about 50% less games coming out then the DS, 360, PC, WII and PS3. Why is this?

It cant be because of the PSP sales as it been selling great across the board?

Im also aware of Hacking etc. but the other systems are hacked too especially the PC and DS.

Its starting to concern me . What does everyone else think about this issue?

well i think that the psp well have a great library of games in the near future

the psp is just resting ... for now

well if you call it resting and judging from the game releas dates the psp may be resting for a couple of years :|

Yes, you right but PSP will still be around for 2 years and with the release of GOW and Crisis Core, the PSP will become great and be better then ever..its beeen resting for too lng,PSP time is now!! Theres still DEVIL MAY CRY,KINGDOM HEARTS and even more to come..

A couple of things....

1) Sony just dropped the price of the developer kit in February, so that should lead to more development in the future

2) A couple of new games (GOW, CC) have shown how good the PSP can be

3) Sales have spiked recently

All of these things have happened too recently to make an impact in the current gaming cycle, but should lead to a lot more development in the future.

well if you call it resting and judging from the game releas dates the psp may be resting for a couple of years :|

cyprusxx

Yeah if by resting he means dirtnap, I agree.

I think piracy could actually be a factor here. Yes, the pc also has a ton of piracy, but I would say piracy on the psp is SO much easier than the PC that it is almost funny. On the PC you generally have to work out a solution game by game. Some games only require emulation, others you need to hide drive emulation software during play, and others you need to use a cracked exe - and others require even more work. Furthermore, just because you get a pirated game running doesn't mean you are out of the woods.

While with the psp, you do one thing, and you are done. And after doing that one thing, it actually becomes more convenient to play pirated games.

Yes, the DS also has piracy issues, but I'm pretty sure that in all situations you have to physically buy extra hardware to achieve such things. And in doing so, it becomes less convenient.

Of course the PS2 and other previous systems also experienced piracy, but since they did not have updateable firmwares, most solutions were a lot less elegant than the current piracy situation on the psp. (At leasts as far as I can remember)

With all of that said, I'm sure there is another big factor in this discussion. I would think the psp is simply not that great at returning the investment a developers puts into it. According to pspupdates.com it generally costs twice as much to develop a psp game in comparison to a DS game(250k vs 500k). And of course, the DS has a larger user base, so it tends to yield a higher profit from a cheaper game. So, who would spend $1 to make $2, when they can spend 50 cents to make $10.

So I'm afraid the sorry fact is that most people in the handheld market want portable games, instead of games that try to deliver a console like experience.

if some developers are stingy and dont want to make a high value game like GOW and FF7 then why dont they make some really good 2D games like locroco lumines. i mean 2d games look alot better on psp instead of DScyprusxx

I agree!!!

I think the main issue is piracy....not hinting anything here but if you google psp games....its amazing to see how many sites offer games for free via megaupload....what does that tell you?

1. Smart people will try and find ways to get them instead of paying for them (unless your super rich but unfortunately we are not all well off also with the rise of inflation rates, petrol prices, housing does not help)

2. Developers are smart and when they know about this they will be like F*** this why am i sticking around if there is no future - no one buying games = we get peanuts and we will be outta job soon so they look for other job opportunities.

Either sony needs to step up their game and make better security, which they do via firmware, but there is always some smart ass out there that thinks they can hack it and they make a firmware which bypasses protection :)

Its a never ending battle really.

piracy only hit PSP so far because its the easiest and smallest.

yes ps2 has more pirated games but you need a modship to be able to play those games but in PSP case, you download custom firmware and viola, everything is possible.

if its security would be just alittle higher, it would sell better both in games and machine because more games would come

1. Smart people will try and find ways to get them instead of paying for them (unless your super rich but unfortunately we are not all well off also with the rise of inflation rates, petrol prices, housing does not help)

No that's dishonest and stupid people. In you're version of smart people I guess bankrobbers are geniuses because they get free money.

2. Developers are smart and when they know about this they will be like F*** this why am i sticking around if there is no future - no one buying games = we get peanuts and we will be outta job soon so they look for other job opportunities.

Now this I agree with. They are smart for not wanting to work for peanuts.

lionheart1981oz

Sorry my response is in your quote.

The PSP will, one day, be great again :)Brighty22

The PSP is still great man. It's just gonna get better within the future. Unless Sony comes out with a new sort of handheld which I highly doubt.

The PSP will, one day, be great again :)Brighty22

The PSP is still great man. It's just gonna get better within the future. Unless Sony comes out with a new sort of handheld which I highly doubt.

The PSP will, one day, be great again :)Brighty22

No that's dishonest and stupid people. In you're version of smart people I guess bankrobbers are geniuses because they get free money.

No - not really, its called being smart, saving money whatever you want to call it (putting moral ethics aside) - if you wanna do the right thing its your choice of free will.

No one is forcing you to do it. Besides if they are not selling it and using it for personal use its not hurting anyone so who cares?

Yeh i guess you can call Bank Robbers geniuses but i dont support their actions as it can involve someones life.

This on the other hand is harmless and dosent involve another persons life, maybe it has but i dunno i never heard cases of it.

Lets be frank here, most people on these boards (even the mods) prolly have pirated games - they just dont want to admit it which is fine cause people will start giving them a hard time.

I got nothing against you, if you wanna do the right thing and buy games and support the industry, by all means be my guest but you and I know not many people will agree to this especially when they see the opportunity handed to them like a seafood platter.

Such a dishonest world we live in, not many people like you and i guess its good that you stand out of the crowd and try and make a difference - even if its a small difference.

Its like someone giving you $1000 for not turning up to work for a day, you can either work or not work, choice is yours?

I'll let you decide that for yourself.

No that's dishonest and stupid people. In you're version of smart people I guess bankrobbers are geniuses because they get free money.

No - not really, its called being smart, saving money whatever you want to call it (putting moral ethics aside) - if you wanna do the right thing its your choice of free will.

No one is forcing you to do it. Besides if they are not selling it and using it for personal use its not hurting anyone so who cares?

Yeh i guess you can call Bank Robbers geniuses but i dont support their actions as it can involve someones life.

This on the other hand is harmless and dosent involve another persons life, maybe it has but i dunno i never heard cases of it.

Lets be frank here, most people on these boards (even the mods) prolly have pirated games - they just dont want to admit it which is fine cause people will start giving them a hard time.

I got nothing against you, if you wanna do the right thing and buy games and support the industry, by all means be my guest but you and I know not many people will agree to this especially when they see the opportunity handed to them like a seafood platter.

Such a dishonest world we live in, not many people like you and i guess its good that you stand out of the crowd and try and make a difference - even if its a small difference.

Its like someone giving you $1000 for not turning up to work for a day, you can either work or not work, choice is yours?

I'll let you decide that for yourself.

lionheart1981oz

No that's dishonest and stupid people. In you're version of smart people I guess bankrobbers are geniuses because they get free money.

No - not really, its called being smart, saving money whatever you want to call it (putting moral ethics aside) - if you wanna do the right thing its your choice of free will.

No one is forcing you to do it. Besides if they are not selling it and using it for personal use its not hurting anyone so who cares?

Yeh i guess you can call Bank Robbers geniuses but i dont support their actions as it can involve someones life.

This on the other hand is harmless and dosent involve another persons life, maybe it has but i dunno i never heard cases of it.

Lets be frank here, most people on these boards (even the mods) prolly have pirated games - they just dont want to admit it which is fine cause people will start giving them a hard time.

I got nothing against you, if you wanna do the right thing and buy games and support the industry, by all means be my guest but you and I know not many people will agree to this especially when they see the opportunity handed to them like a seafood platter.

Such a dishonest world we live in, not many people like you and i guess its good that you stand out of the crowd and try and make a difference - even if its a small difference.

Its like someone giving you $1000 for not turning up to work for a day, you can either work or not work, choice is yours?

I'll let you decide that for yourself.

lionheart1981oz

but how do you explain the fact that the DS can easily and safely be hacked but continues to get double the support than the PSP. Obviosly there are other factors but we need to C just how bad the PSP piracy is compared to the other systems. maybe i should make a pole

I agree. I think developers should plan to make more games for the PSP.

But good news here - http://www.n4g.com/dev/News-155654.aspx. That's great :)

First of all its true the psp is on the verge of dying but its still fighting and even dead i will love the PSP:). By the way what are pirated games so that way i know if i have.

First of all its true the psp is on the verge of dying but its still fighting and even dead i will love the PSP:). By the way what are pirated games so that way i know if i have.

dragonballM8

What makes you think the psp is on the verge of dying is it the developer support. Also a pirated game is when you download or burn a game instead of buying it

If you buy UMDs its hard to tell if its pirated, i dont think you can but correct me if im wrong.

Most the pirated psp games you download em and play em off the memory stick - thats how it works.

But you need special stuff for it and I wont explain it here cause it aint allowed.

Google is your friend ;)

If you buy UMDs its hard to tell if its pirated, i dont think you can but correct me if im wrong.

Most the pirated psp games you download em and play em off the memory stick - thats how it works.

But you need special stuff for it and I wont explain it here cause it aint allowed.

Google is your friend ;)

lionheart1981oz

If piracy is affecting Game developer support then you probably shouldt be promoting it if we do hack systems lets keep t to ourself because the less people that know about it the better

I just picked up the PSP and it's become one of my favorite systems. It's a fantastic device!

I hope developers support it because there are some quality titles that really show its power.

I agree. I think developers should plan to make more games for the PSP.

But good news here - http://www.n4g.com/dev/News-155654.aspx. That's great :)

GaMeR_Willz

I've always loved Ubisoft. :)

I don't think piracy is why developers support on the PSP is fading. Just look at Japan how crazy they are over Monster Hunter. If they could pirate Monster Hunter then why would it even be on the top of the software sales list? I mean I could do stuff on my PSP that is evil as some people call it but when I see a good game & a fair priced game I buy it even if I can go the other way.

I think Sony is the one at fault here they concentrated too much on the PS3 & left the PSP for dead. Even in the 1st year of the PSP there was few games in between releases, without ports of games & multiplatform games there could have been no more than 50 games released in it's 1st year. Maybe they just given up on the system.

But the problem is not about the piracy. IT IS THE DEVELOPERS themselves. Most of these developers are just ripping ideas and putting them on the PSP system hoping to make big bucks out of it. If the game is truely amazing and worth the value, I think people will definately buy it.

Games that don't last will never earn alot. Now the developers are so cunning until I do not even know what games are reccomended to buy. I bought hellgate london and was definately disappointed that I bought it.. I hope starcraft 2 don't fail me now though... for PSP, Monster hunter tops the chart as it is fun and long especially with your friends. My friend got it in UMD although he did like what you said pirating but he found that it was worth it and bought it instead.

I am still hoping that they will one day make a magic the gathering card game action battle on psp :)

But the problem is not about the piracy. IT IS THE DEVELOPERS themselves. Most of these developers are just ripping ideas and putting them on the PSP system hoping to make big bucks out of it. If the game is truely amazing and worth the value, I think people will definately buy it.

Games that don't last will never earn alot. Now the developers are so cunning until I do not even know what games are reccomended to buy. I bought hellgate london and was definately disappointed that I bought it.. I hope starcraft 2 don't fail me now though... for PSP, Monster hunter tops the chart as it is fun and long especially with your friends. My friend got it in UMD although he did like what you said pirating but he found that it was worth it and bought it instead.

I am still hoping that they will one day make a magic the gathering card game action battle on psp :)

monkit

This is one of the things I wanted to point out, a lot of developers are just throwing pieces of sh*t on UMDs and expecting to make big bucks out of these. That's why i put a lot of time on choosing the games I'll buy, but even so i got burned.

When I heard Burnout Dominator was coming I was like yeah another burnout game. Then I bought it and said what is this piece of sh**. Dominator is not that bad but it really pissed me off having all of this new crappy modes. I haven't bought much games ever since just the ones I've rented and liked them.

I think that along with piracy this is another big issue, I think we both consumers and developers have been greedy and that's what's killing the PSP IMO

But hopefully with the kind of sales the PSP is having in japan, $ony will have to step up and make some great games themselves, along with Ubisoft I hope

Most people mod their consoles. By modding them they get access to ilegal games.

A mod PSP adds lot of extra stuff too, so its hard to resist actually. In my case, I have still not modded it but mostly because I use the connectivity with my PS3.

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