PSP2 will have 3G?!

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#1 deathbeat60
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http://psp.ign.com/articles/114/1145577p1.html

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#2 Ventara
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Glad to see Sony putting more effort into online gaming. I always felt ad-hoc should be secondary to online gaming, as it`s a lot harder to find a gaming partner that way. I`m hoping we`ll get something similar, though it may cost us something like what PSN+ is (maybe it`ll be a part of PSN+), though I`m hoping it would be free.

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#3 jfrancis04
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Awesome awesome news.

I'm anxious to see who provides the 3G in the U.S. and if there's a fee for it.

Starting to think I might be able to cancel my 3DS pre-order.

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#4 jordonj
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The bad news, as I see it, you will have to buy a data plan with a cellular provider in order to use 3G (and isn't everything going 4G anyways). Still, sounds like the PSP2 is changing with the times.
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Phew, at least it'll have an awesome screen. I hope the web browser is pretty decent as well.

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#6 blazinpuertoroc
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This is japan though, why the hell would they be using outdated 3G? And 4G is becoming widespread this year, why not that?

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#7 CaptainAhab13
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Sounds awesome, but I don't want to have to pay for a 3G network just to play video games on my PSP2. >.>

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#8 Avenged_Plague
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if it does have 3G/4G, i'm sure it will have wi-fi as well

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The bad news, as I see it, you will have to buy a data plan with a cellular provider in order to use 3G (and isn't everything going 4G anyways). Still, sounds like the PSP2 is changing with the times.jordonj
not necessarily. the kindle, for example, has 3G without a cell provider data plan. i can't think of anything else off the top of my head though. the thing is though if they don't require a monthly data plan then you are going to be subsidizing your 'free' data connection with more expensive downloads.
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#10 jj42883
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if it does have 3G/4G, i'm sure it will have wi-fi as well

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i doubt it will have 4G, and it has to have wifi. wifi is still faster than 3G and there are a lot of people that may not be in a 3G coverage area or even if they are in a coverage area, might want to play/download while inside a building or somewhere with a bad 3G signal.
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#11 OmegaAK47
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I like the idea, but if there is a monthly bill in voled then IDK. I already pay for my phone 3G, It seems unlikely I would us this more than my phone. I am a poor college student. :shock:

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[QUOTE="jordonj"]The bad news, as I see it, you will have to buy a data plan with a cellular provider in order to use 3G (and isn't everything going 4G anyways). Still, sounds like the PSP2 is changing with the times.jj42883
not necessarily. the kindle, for example, has 3G without a cell provider data plan. i can't think of anything else off the top of my head though. the thing is though if they don't require a monthly data plan then you are going to be subsidizing your 'free' data connection with more expensive downloads.

The difference is the kindle does not use much data. Ebooks are tiny compared to online gaming.
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#14 jj42883
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[QUOTE="jj42883"][QUOTE="jordonj"]The bad news, as I see it, you will have to buy a data plan with a cellular provider in order to use 3G (and isn't everything going 4G anyways). Still, sounds like the PSP2 is changing with the times.hooch1
not necessarily. the kindle, for example, has 3G without a cell provider data plan. i can't think of anything else off the top of my head though. the thing is though if they don't require a monthly data plan then you are going to be subsidizing your 'free' data connection with more expensive downloads.

The difference is the kindle does not use much data. Ebooks are tiny compared to online gaming.

well i was just pointing out the precident, so it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. and yes the data usage on a PSP2 would be much higher than a kindle. but i just don't see anyone buying a PSP2 if they have to pay an extra $20/month for a data plan.
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Phew, at least it'll have an awesome screen. I hope the web browser is pretty decent as well.

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If the rumored 1GB is true, then the Web Browser should be top notch.
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Awesome. Online gaming go go.
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#17 blacknight06
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Did I read it wrong or does it say that it has an OLED touch screen?:o

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#18 Ventara
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Did I read it wrong or does it say that it has an OLED touch screen?:o

blacknight06

Although it`s still a rumor, that`s what it says. Not really a big fan of touch screen gaming, but it should make navigating menus and the web browser a breeze if it`s true.

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#19 Granpire
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I remember this rumour from about last year. Sony and a few other companies had met with a certain Japanese 3G provider to discuss "the possibility of 3G in certain upcoming handheld gaming systems". That's all the company said about their meetings with Sony, but I wouldn't be surprised if the company mentioned in the article is the same as the one mentioned in the new article. :) If I could just track it down, it might be a way to further confirm these rumours.
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[QUOTE="jordonj"]The bad news, as I see it, you will have to buy a data plan with a cellular provider in order to use 3G (and isn't everything going 4G anyways). Still, sounds like the PSP2 is changing with the times.jj42883
not necessarily. the kindle, for example, has 3G without a cell provider data plan. i can't think of anything else off the top of my head though. the thing is though if they don't require a monthly data plan then you are going to be subsidizing your 'free' data connection with more expensive downloads.

Exactly what the above poster says that the kindle has 3G without a service provider and japan already has similar things in mind. They will use the 3G without providers similar to having a wifi hotspot everywhere. The only thing i cant understand is how theyre going to do this in europe and in the US. We dont have open 3G networks here like they do in japan, and if we do, will it be able to service a game connection?

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Seeing how they still included wifi, my guess is that 3G will be optional but not free in the US, and having more optional isnt always a bad thing. If u cant afford the data fee just use wifi, if you can, u get psn connectivity on the go, which makes perfect sense with a portable system. i hated only being able to play multi player psp games if my friends were in the same room or i was playin one of the few true online games, AND was near a wifi spot, which was really only at my house.

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With all the those PS3-port demos they had today I wonder how many PS3 games are going to get ported over to PS3.

This system actually sounds intriguing. The screen is probably a little bit too small for good online FPS games though-- like Bad Company 2, MAG, CoD, etc.

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#23 marcl18123
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With all the those PS3-port demos they had today I wonder how many PS3 games are going to get ported over to PS3.

This system actually sounds intriguing. The screen is probably a little bit too small for good online FPS games though-- like Bad Company 2, MAG, CoD, etc.

GojiMaster

considering how much closer you will be to the screen it shouldn't be to bad compared to playing a fps on a console. Unless your used to playing 2 feet away on a 55" tv :)

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#24 LoserMike
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This is japan though, why the hell would they be using outdated 3G? And 4G is becoming widespread this year, why not that?

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Cause 4G kills battery life. The 4g phones released for Sprint have terrible battery life. It only lasts 7 hours if 4G is on and remember this just browsing the web and talking on the phone. Playing games would be even worse.
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My theory regarding 3G.. It probably needs to be free to succeed. Now, Amazon do this with the Kindle, but the files it downloads are usually kilobytes and rarely any bigger. So, my theory is that accessing content such as the store, online gaming, maybe the web browser, will be free, because generally these things are low usage. Sony will make a deal with a network in each country, like Amazon did with the Kindle. Downloading larger content such as games and videos will have a surcharge included in the price, which goes directly to the network provider. This will effectively mean that 3G appears to be free, but we actually pay for large downloads in the total price of paid downloads. Alternatively they'll do the silly thing and require that we have a monthly contract. I don't think this will happen; this is a game console first and foremost, not a phone, and Sony know who their target audience are. There would still be Wifi, but they are advertising 3G as an integral part of the experience, so it may well be 'free'.

With all the those PS3-port demos they had today I wonder how many PS3 games are going to get ported over to PS3.

This system actually sounds intriguing. The screen is probably a little bit too small for good online FPS games though-- like Bad Company 2, MAG, CoD, etc.

GojiMaster
Even the PSP screen was large enough for gaming; this thing is 5 inches, only 2 inches smaller than the Samsung Galaxy Tab, and much larger than the largest smartphone screens. Honestly, you'll be surprised when you see how big the screen is; the bezel (border) around the screen is very small (could change however), so it's going to dominate the face of the device.
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#26 feryl06
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can't wait to see this thing homebrewed. :) or with skype. :)

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i know it is stupid question but that 3G means that i might use the psp 2 as phone ?
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#28 Mr_BillGates
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Question: If I have an AT&T 3g service for my iPhone, is it possible to use that service on other devices such as PSP2?

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#29 FamilyGuyFan507
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Not to mention numerous articles have already pointed out that 4G does NOT exist.

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#30 mariokart64fan
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us pays for 3g , , which is bad cause now well have to pay a cell phone company lol im not ill stick to wifi

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My theory regarding 3G.. It probably needs to be free to succeed. Now, Amazon do this with the Kindle, but the files it downloads are usually kilobytes and rarely any bigger. So, my theory is that accessing content such as the store, online gaming, maybe the web browser, will be free, because generally these things are low usage. Sony will make a deal with a network in each country, like Amazon did with the Kindle. Downloading larger content such as games and videos will have a surcharge included in the price, which goes directly to the network provider. This will effectively mean that 3G appears to be free, but we actually pay for large downloads in the total price of paid downloads. cjek
The problem with that solution is, how much would they have to tack on to the price to cover 3G cost of all the user? Considering some user wont even buy games or DLC online. And what about demos? are they not gonna have them, or make they wifi only, and if they plump up the price of online content, what about the wifi only users.
The only way i see the 3G being "free" is with ridiculously overpriced PSN store content and a severe data limit cap.

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[QUOTE="cjek"]My theory regarding 3G.. It probably needs to be free to succeed. Now, Amazon do this with the Kindle, but the files it downloads are usually kilobytes and rarely any bigger. So, my theory is that accessing content such as the store, online gaming, maybe the web browser, will be free, because generally these things are low usage. Sony will make a deal with a network in each country, like Amazon did with the Kindle. Downloading larger content such as games and videos will have a surcharge included in the price, which goes directly to the network provider. This will effectively mean that 3G appears to be free, but we actually pay for large downloads in the total price of paid downloads. marcl18123

The problem with that solution is, how much would they have to tack on to the price to cover 3G cost of all the user? Considering some user wont even buy games or DLC online. And what about demos? are they not gonna have them, or make they wifi only, and if they plump up the price of online content, what about the wifi only users.
The only way i see the 3G being "free" is with ridiculously overpriced PSN store content and a severe data limit cap.

The 3G model of the console is expected to cost more, so that's covering the 3G radio module (which costs barely anything), and also helps to cover Sony's deals with network providers. They could put a few £'s on the cost of purchasing games to cover the cost of downloading such vast amounts of data.

Alternatively, downloading large files could be limited to Wi-Fi or USB transfer, and 3G would be for general PSN activity, smaller DLC, and web activity, which personally I'd be happy with, because downloading a game over 3G would be a nightmare. It's not reliable or fast enough in reality, especially in such a densely populated country like the UK.