PSVR-Glasses and other questions

Okay...so Sony's pricing this thing really aggressively, to the point where I think I'm willing to just give it a shot even though I don't know if it works for me, so I've got piles of questions maybe people can help with...

-I understand it works with glasses...is that annoying? And if I'm nearsighted, is there a chance I could use this WITHOUT glasses? I mean it's sticking a screen right on my face, so I sort of feel like doesn't that mean I could just see it without my glasses like I read my iPad from a foot away or half a foot away or whatever?

-It doesn't come with headphones? Does that mean you need a wired pair of over the ear headphones to use with it?

-It uses the camera for tracking I guess, so even though you can move around, I assume you have to sort of have the camera a certain distance and aimed at you, and have to face it?

-Do you need the "move" controllers? I bought some YEARS ago on PS3 and hated them, sold them almost immediately. They didn't really work at all...in fact they worked way worse for me than the Wii's controllers, and I hated those too. Frankly I'd rather just play games with the regular controller, I think... Plus that adds $100-200 or whatever more to the cost!

-Can you use PSVR to play ANY PS4 game even if it's not supported? Like can you use it to just display a virtual TV basically, so that even though it's flat, it can be used as a TV of sorts? (I might just have my PS4 Pro situated somewhere without a TV if that's the case, just always use it with PSVR)

-Do you have to buy new special versions of Skyrim and Fallout 4 to have them be VR versions, and if so are they the full games, just made to explicitly support PSVR?

-Because of it's backwards compatibility, I'm standardizing on Xbox One X, so anyone heard if it's going to support VR, like if I could just be playing Skyrim and Fallout 4 in VR over there?

Just ordered the Skyrim bundle. Hope it's good. I haven't heard a complaint from anyone that owns one so far, so that's a good sign. More games seem to be adopting it also. Soon live events/movies will be a thing which will be cool too.

Yeah, I saw that bundle...must be the new version + a game I'd actually play + I guess all the accessories for $350? Okay....you guys finally got me lol (Maybe)

@wolfpup7:

@wolfpup7: Yeah, it's everything and it's the newer psvr headset. I've never played Skyrim but it has great reviews. Looks like a fun VR type of game. I think you also get the demo disc with that bundle. And fyi, you can download a ton of games and apps for free on PSN store.

@wolfpup7: Skyrim was also built just for the psvr... It's not a crappy port... Hence why it's $60 I guess.

Thanks guys! It's out of stock, but I placed an order...guess I've got a little time to change my mind.

I *think* this is going to be one of those things where I get it, mess with it, and go "eeeeew" like I did with the Move controllers to begin with, but....

(And I wish Sony would just use AA batteries! One of the many things I hated about Move to begin with was having to find a way to charge them/use them plugged in/etc.)

Ugh, I always do this, get excited about some gimmicky thing, buy it, then end up having to sell it lol Oh well, I am super curious and this is by far the most affordable REAL VR has ever been, $350 for the COMPLETE package + a real game! (Well...plus $400 for the PS4 Pro, but even WITH that it's not much more than HTC Vive by itself, and I need the Pro anyway.)

Just had another thought...can the camera/tracking actually work in a real-world environment, chairs, bedroom, living room, not some pristine environment dedicated to just VR?

Kinnect 2.0 doesn't work at ALL basically. Literally one game demo I couldn't get past the title screen, it wouldn't recognize the movement it was supposed to. Move didn't really work either (on a Playstation 3). Wii's camera-in-the-controller more or less works, but it's doing less.

This might not even work in my setup...in which case I should cancel it and "make due" with a nice 4K + HDR set lol

@wolfpup7: If you live in the states, I just saw Walmart has it in stock for $349(Skyrim bundle)... That was this morning though. Good luck and let us know how you like it.

As long as there are no reflective surfaces / blinking LEDs getting in the way, or light shining on the headset, it should track just fine. Make sure there's nothing directly in the way of the headset and the camera. If you put it where your TV normally is, then that shouldn't be an issue.

PlayStation Move's are not needed for all games, but required for some. Having your hands in VR is a widely more immersive experience than using a gamepad, however as you know, these are Moves we're talking about. So tracking won't be perfect, but still worth it I'd say.

Keep in mind that playing games in a virtual theater is best served for racing games, or games without much text / UI elements. It's difficult to play an RPG on a virtual screen with the resolution of current VR headsets. It'll be leagues better in 5 years, but for now, I personally would stick to using it for racing games and such.

If by chance, you happen to have a VR-ready PC, I would actually suggest going that route. If not, PSVR is still great.

And yes, Xbox One X will support VR, likely to happen in 2018. It's unknown what headset/s will be available. But my guess is one or more of the Windows Mixed Reality headsets and maybe Rift also gets supported.

@wolfpup7: I've asked others and they said the Pro isn't needed. I hope they're right. Also, I doubt you'd play a game longer than those move controllers batteries last, so it's just a matter of plugging them in after a session. I hate having to buy AAs. So this doesn't bother me.

@wolfpup7: As long as the camera can see the move controllers and headset, you're fine. If you duck down behind your couch you're out of luck lol. Also, I had/have the PS3 eye camera and it sucks balls compared to the PS4 one.

Do you play like in 8hr stints or something, the move controllers batteries are awesome.

Weeeeell, Amazon's going to ship it soon... I'm still torn on whether I should cancel. If this catches on, surely the next gen systems (or even Xbox One X) will do a better job with it... Like I guess it's only 1/2 1080p, and then only on the Pro.... ARGH. I don't know.

So you cant read either?

Like @joshrmeyer said, you don't need a pro.

Because you don't know how to use google...

http://bfy.tw/FAL3

@GTR12: Dude, I know you don't literally *need* a Pro. I wouldn't use it without a Pro. There's a huge upgrade in games that support it. The thing has literally 2x the GPU, and VR needs all the power it can get.

I wouldn't play PS4 games now without a Pro regardless, but I really, REALLY wouldn't try to do PSVR.

Again, keep making up trash and believe what you want, with no credible evidence.

https://www.roadtovr.com/playstation-vr-psvr-on-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-review-comparison/

The only big improvement is loading times.

@GTR12: No it is not. Your claim doesn't even make sense.

And you're on an actual review site, yet linking to some random fly-by-night site, and to an article written before the hardware was even released. SERIOUSLY? EDIT: And then it doesn't even agree with your claim.

Just check ACTUAL reviews about it running on actual hardware. VR needs a lot of power, and the Pro in at least games that are supported gives higher frame rates/smoother tracking, higher resolutions, etc. How could it not? It literally has 2x the GPU.

LOL GS an actual review site, good one.

Believe whatever you want, and the PSVR comes with a mini PC that attaches to the PS4, but you wouldn't know that since you don't even have one.

Seriously? We've got a PS4 Pro conspiracy theorist now?!?

UGH.

Well anyway I ended up cancelling the order. I just can't make up my mind. The price is awesome compared to what it launched at, and I legitimately want to try it, but using it with my glasses sounds like a pain, camera based controls NEVER work for me, and I hated "3D", so I just don't know... I've been trying to picture where I'd even set stuff up. I'm thinking like sit in a chair, have the PS4 Pro near, plut the move controllers, regular controller, headset into it, then run the camera far enough away. Wouldn't have to have anything to do with a TV. I wish I knew if there was going to be some better VR solution for Xbox One X, or for that matter if like Playstation 5 would have a better VR solution.

Wait for the PS6 Pro, supposedly that has 1080p 60fps.

The amount of mis-information on this thread is horrible.

Yes you can use glasses and it’s very comfortable

The move controls work amazing well in VR.

You can place the camera anywhere you want, the PS4 doesn’t even have to be hooked up to the TV to use the PSVR.

No there is not a mini-PC box that goes between the PSVR and the tv, it’s simply a interface box that allows video processing to the television.

The games are fun and the VR experience is fantastic and is very much on par to every other VR headset out there.

I have a Oculus Rift and a strong PC and I can tell you PSVR holds its own in many respects.

I would recommend however that you use a PS4 Pro for the better experience.