"Region-free" is not completely true...

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#1 portej
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I bought my PS3 in Japan. Not too long ago, I tried to play a US Version PS2 game - GoW2, and... BAM! It does not work...

US version PS3 games work on my PS3 though... oh well...

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#2 Dude543211
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I bought my PS3 in Japan. Not too long ago, I tried to play a US Version PS2 game - GoW2, and... BAM! It does not work...

US version PS3 games work on my PS3 though... oh well...

portej

 

we all knew that! you just failed to research, and/ or jumped to conclusions!  

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#3 ex-paranoia
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I bought my PS3 in Japan. Not too long ago, I tried to play a US Version PS2 game - GoW2, and... BAM! It does not work...

US version PS3 games work on my PS3 though... oh well...

portej

It is region-free for Playstation 3 titles ONLY.

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#4 Thomas-Crown
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It has been state it like million times: Only PS3 games are region free.
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#5 gayguy
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It has been state it like million times: Only PS3 games are region free. Thomas-Crown

 

so TRUE!

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#6 portej
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Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.
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#7 Crazy87
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Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

 

cause the code is in the game not the console 

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Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej
The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.
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#9 portej
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[QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.timmotool
The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

I'm afraid I do not follow, why would Sony need to remake every PS2/PSX game? Yes, the games are made with a specific region-code, but if the PS3 was completely region free, it would not matter what the region-code is and it would be able to read the games...

The problem lies within the hardware, not the games themselves...

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#10 junk56
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the only reason why ps3 is "region free" for ps3 games is cause ALL ps3 games no matter where they are made do not have a region code assigned to them. There's no hardware that can run PAL and NTSC games both and unfortunately both PS1 and PS2 games had those regions on them. PS3 games don't have a region therefore the problem is in the games not the PS3.
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#11 portej
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the only reason why ps3 is "region free" for ps3 games is cause ALL ps3 games no matter where they are made do not have a region code assigned to them. There's no hardware that can run PAL and NTSC games both and unfortunately both PS1 and PS2 games had those regions on them. PS3 games don't have a region therefore the problem is in the games not the PS3.junk56

I know someone who had "hardware" that could run PAL and NTSC games (for his PS2)... Granted, it would void the warranty, but it had already expired so....

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#12 Sgt_Hale
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I bought my PS3 in Japan. Not too long ago, I tried to play a US Version PS2 game - GoW2, and... BAM! It does not work...

US version PS3 games work on my PS3 though... oh well...

portej

Duuuh, they said that all BLU RAY games are region free. PS2 games are still on dvd's! We've known this since last Sept.

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#13 Sgt_Hale
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[QUOTE="timmotool"][QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

I'm afraid I do not follow, why would Sony need to remake every PS2/PSX game? Yes, the games are made with a specific region-code, but if the PS3 was completely region free, it would not matter what the region-code is and it would be able to read the games...

The problem lies within the hardware, not the games themselves...

*Sigh* You need to go do a little research. The PS3 is not region free, the games are. The coding for the region is in the formats. There is no region coding for blu ray games, but there is on blu ray movie discs. There is region coding in ALL dvd's whether it's movies or games.

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#15 timmotool
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[QUOTE="timmotool"][QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

I'm afraid I do not follow, why would Sony need to remake every PS2/PSX game? Yes, the games are made with a specific region-code, but if the PS3 was completely region free, it would not matter what the region-code is and it would be able to read the games...

The problem lies within the hardware, not the games themselves...

The PS3 basically has a PS2 and PSX built inside it. The ship that it uses is one from your region, so you can play your regions games. Now Sony could have put something in it so that it could play Region Coded games, but that would bring about legal issues(and we no how sony handles those ONOES NO RUMBLE!) and it would also bring manufacturing cost up. Think of it as you buying a modchip for your PS2 its cost about 50 or so dollars but you can play RC games now. Now picture Sony putting that chip in the PS2 so its already in their when you buy it. The PS2 would cost more money! Same goes for the PS3, to have that extra hardware in their would up the price for the PS3 which at this point we really dont need. The fact that it plays all PS2 games in the first place and doesnt use emulators like "some" consoles out their is awesome in its self! For now just sit tight, their will one day be a modchip or a homebrew app that will let you play those awesome Japanese RPG's!
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#16 squirrelgrrrl84
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bring production costs up? yeah, not so much. all they would have to do is make the drive region 0 or whatever the universal region is. pretty painless, and costs absolutely nothing. as far as the lawsuit issue is concerned, i don't really know the legality of the issue, or if sony would get in trouble or not. i imagine it would cause some problems for sony. but i guess it's important to recognize that there's no technical hurdle, as region encoding is only there to divide the market in the first place.
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#17 Otaku_Punk
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The problem is with how both the software authentication and region codes are stored on those media. With PS1 and PS2 games the region coding information and the authentication information (to check its not pirated) are stored together, so removing one removes the other. All hardware is physically capable of playing all regions games, its just that games not from its own region fail the region code test at boot. I know piracy of PS1 and PS2 games is negligable now, but remember Sony is still trying to make money out of Ps1 games via the PSN.

 Also, by making it region free you have the issue of games that were not released in certain territories due to licensing issues and local government.

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#18 tubarao1
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it´s only ps3 games. all people who bouhgt a ps3 already knew that.
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#19 The_Tombo
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quick question .. Do the xplorer dvd region free cd's for the ps2 still work for the ps3 ? .. would be very handy for me seeming as I have 50/50 access to NTSC and PAL DVD's
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Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

oh come on!! at least its better then the Xbox 360 and Wii where all titles are region locked.

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[QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.timmotool
The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

Actually my hacked ps2 plays games from every region so i don't think it would've been that hard to do that for the ps3. 

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#22 lordxymor
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[QUOTE="timmotool"][QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

I'm afraid I do not follow, why would Sony need to remake every PS2/PSX game? Yes, the games are made with a specific region-code, but if the PS3 was completely region free, it would not matter what the region-code is and it would be able to read the games...

The problem lies within the hardware, not the games themselves...

You can't bypass the region preotection code as It's illegal in some countries, US included.

It's not a hardware limitation, it's a legal limitation.  

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So you actually can, but you shouldn't.
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Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

look man i think u are on some moonshine, go home, relax and relieve your stress. Ps2 games are region coded while ps3 are programmed to be region free it's not like the ps3 can arrange the game coding, the game needs to be coded as region free alright. the ps3 is region free because in every region the ps3 can read the same game code instead of the ps3 reading game codes for a certain region. thank you and please don't waste my time anymore! darn! 

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#25 The_Tombo
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[QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.comissario

darn! 

:lol:

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#26 cooldust
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well thats not really true F.E.A.R is not region 3 i tried it on my japanese ps3 and it says theres a code error at first i thought the game was faulty but then i got marvel ua and that didint work but rfom def jam motor storm ridge racer genji all work odd i smell some region coding
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#27 comissario
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[QUOTE="timmotool"][QUOTE="portej"]Indeed... but wouldn't it be nicer if the PS3 was also region-free for PS2 and PS1 games? I fail to see why Sony couldn't do so. I seriously doubt that doing so would have significantly raised production costs.portej

The games were already made with a region code. So unless you can get sony to remake every PS2/PSx game region free, your stuck.

I'm afraid I do not follow, why would Sony need to remake every PS2/PSX game? Yes, the games are made with a specific region-code, but if the PS3 was completely region free, it would not matter what the region-code is and it would be able to read the games...

The problem lies within the hardware, not the games themselves...

 

[QUOTE="junk56"]the only reason why ps3 is "region free" for ps3 games is cause ALL ps3 games no matter where they are made do not have a region code assigned to them. There's no hardware that can run PAL and NTSC games both and unfortunately both PS1 and PS2 games had those regions on them. PS3 games don't have a region therefore the problem is in the games not the PS3.portej

I know someone who had "hardware" that could run PAL and NTSC games (for his PS2)... Granted, it would void the warranty, but it had already expired so....

[QUOTE="junk56"]the only reason why ps3 is "region free" for ps3 games is cause ALL ps3 games no matter where they are made do not have a region code assigned to them. There's no hardware that can run PAL and NTSC games both and unfortunately both PS1 and PS2 games had those regions on them. PS3 games don't have a region therefore the problem is in the games not the PS3.portej

I know someone who had "hardware" that could run PAL and NTSC games (for his PS2)... Granted, it would void the warranty, but it had already expired so....

you've got a point that you can make a Pal ps2 play NTSC ps2 but that is quite an expensive method and the way sony is approaching the way to make region free games is that they're making all the systems with one coding and all the games with 1 coding. i wasn't remembering about this fact. why would you pay like 100s of dollars just to build in region codings on a console? it's not how it works boy

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#28 Funglip
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I know exactly how you feeling dude; I own something like 20 JPN PS2 games and they couldn't be play on my PS3; now they all sit here doing nth.... I think it would be smart for Sony to make all region PS1/PS2 games work on the PS3; it not like it would hurt them or anything and I would buy a few extra games.
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#29 god_of_shawn
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Sony has done a very good job in making the PS3's games region free. Y dun u compare the Xbox360 and the Wii? Their games r not region free. Just dun whine. -.-