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#1 Enjae_Reaper
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I purchased a PS3 about 5 months ago and since the first month I haven't turned it on sense. Please let me get some reasons to use it because the graphics arn't that great as my xbox and also I feel lonely when I play it :(

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#2 garrett_duffman
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1. the ps3 is more powerful than the 360 could ever be. just look at uncharted; there is no way in hell a 360 would EVER be able to run anything close to that. 2. if you want to sell it, its your loss, nobody cares what you do with your money. if you arent playing it, then you arent playing it.
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#3 Enjae_Reaper
Member since 2012 • 25 Posts

I asked for advise not a fanboy whos a dick...Im not comparing I just wanted to know games I can buy to make me want to use my PS3

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#4 gamenerd15
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Sell it if you want.

The graphics are about the same on each console, so I do not know why you think the graphics are worse on PS3.

PS3 has most of the major games coming to the platform plus exclusive games

You have got

Twisted Metal, Starhawk, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Graces F, Sly Cooper, God of War, and the Last of Us coming out this year.

There was also a slew of content that came out last year as well

Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, Motorstorm, Socom, Infamous, and so on

If none of those franchise interest you, then why did you buy the console in the first place?

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#5 Vari3ty
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Newsflash: No one cares if you want to sell your PS3. Think your Xbox has better graphics? Then what are you wasting your time in here for? Go and sell your PS3, if thats what you want. No one in here is going to care one way or the other.

Edit: Smells like troll around here...

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#6 MethodManFTW
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If you want to sell it, do it.
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#7 Mikey132
Member since 2005 • 5180 Posts

That should be a YOU'RE in your sig.

And sell it, if you can't find a reason to play it on your own, don't.

No one cares if you play or not, it's entirely your call.

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#8 Enjae_Reaper
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Honestly I feel like its either your with PS3 or not and if you oppose then your a loser thats the vibe I get. This is why the Xbox community is better because people actually talk to you and arnt just flammers. So w.e **** u guys except for the guy who listed games and also Im just saying that PS3's graphics look a little dated now u could have reccomended me a way to fix that but no..u decide to be a dick. Cool I hope helldogs feast on your bones

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#9 MethodManFTW
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I hope helldogs feast on your bones

Enjae_Reaper

Lol. But yeah dude, if you want to sell a console, do it. Make your own decisions.. As some one who has owned both consoles for a majority of this gen, it's a waste to own both. So I'd say pick whichever one you like better and go with that.

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#10 Mikey132
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You said something about fanboys.

We don't care if you don't want to play PS3. This is a PS3 board, you expect everyone here to love X-box?

Go, go, go

We won't miss you.

Bye Bye!

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#11 Enjae_Reaper
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You said something about fanboys.

We don't care if you don't want to play PS3. This is a PS3 board, you expect everyone here to love X-box?

Go, go, go

We won't miss you.

Bye Bye!

Mikey132

I didnt expect you to love xbox just not to be ignorant.

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#12 Mikey132
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If you want people to take you seriously and recommend something don't mention how X-box is better.

Asking for game recommendations for the PS3 doesn't have anything to do with an X-box. You can leave that part out.

Also you never mentioned what kind of games you like to play, we can't read minds.

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#13 koryuk
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Just got my ps3 a few days ago and I am enjoying it so much the excluisves are amazing and it can do more than the Xbox 360 and is better value.I have both.
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#14 xGamePlayerx19
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play it for the reasons i play mine, not for the online and such, xbox is for that, play it for the awesome exclusives such as the uncharted series, infamous series, demons souls, killzone series, and theres more i think but i havent gotten to those yet. i think thats a quite good enough reason to play it.

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#15 Enjae_Reaper
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If you want people to take you seriously and recommend something don't mention how X-box is better.

Asking for game recommendations for the PS3 doesn't have anything to do with an X-box. You can leave that part out.

Also you never mentioned what kind of games you like to play, we can't read minds.

Mikey132

Your right I can accept my down falls and I apologize for my part in the wrong doing. I like all types of games is there any besides GOW that I should look at?

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#16 ShangTsung17
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I purchased a PS3 about 5 months ago and since the first month I haven't turned it on sense. Please let me get some reasons to use it because the graphics arn't that great as my xbox and also I feel lonely when I play it :(

Enjae_Reaper

i understand your dilema, soon as i get a 360 i'm selling mine as well, as much as i hate to admit it, the ps3 just doesn't compare to the 360.. if only i knew 5 years ago what i know now about the two i would've went with a 360 no question., now as far as giving a reason to keep your ps3, well if u ever get really REALLY bored on a rainy day you'll atleast have it as an option.. lol

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#17 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

You said something about fanboys.

We don't care if you don't want to play PS3. This is a PS3 board, you expect everyone here to love X-box?

Go, go, go

We won't miss you.

Bye Bye!

Enjae_Reaper

I didnt expect you to love xbox just not to be ignorant.

if you think that the xbox has better graphics than the ps3, then YOU are the ignorant one. The ps3 is more powerful than the 360. that is an indisputable FACT. look up anything you want about the technological limits of both systems, the PS3 is the stronger system.
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#18 Vari3ty
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Honestly I feel like its either your with PS3 or not and if you oppose then your a loser thats the vibe I get. This is why the Xbox community is better because people actually talk to you and arnt just flammers. So w.e **** u guys except for the guy who listed games and also Im just saying that PS3's graphics look a little dated now u could have reccomended me a way to fix that but no..u decide to be a dick. Cool I hope helldogs feast on your bones

Enjae_Reaper

You honestly don't have anything better to do with your time?

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#19 almossbb
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bro it all depends on the game you want to play. if you are into the plenty and amazing (imo) ps3 exclusives then keep it. if you are only into multiplats and online gaming then stick with the 360.

i have both so it doesnt really matter to me lol. i use my ps3 alot tho for the exclusives. any more questions feel free to ask me.

also why am i seeing some flaming up top? TC is only asking for some help on the decision. answer the question and keep it clean. this isnt system wars.

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#20 almossbb
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[QUOTE="Enjae_Reaper"]

I purchased a PS3 about 5 months ago and since the first month I haven't turned it on sense. Please let me get some reasons to use it because the graphics arn't that great as my xbox and also I feel lonely when I play it :(

ShangTsung17

i understand your dilema, soon as i get a 360 i'm selling mine as well, as much as i hate to admit it, the ps3 just doesn't compare to the 360.. if only i knew 5 years ago what i know now about the two i would've went with a 360 no question., now as far as giving a reason to keep your ps3, well if u ever get really REALLY bored on a rainy day you'll atleast have it as an option.. lol

well if you are talking about online then sure you are right. buuut i dont see how the ps3 cant compare otherwise, they are practically the same.....

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#21 ispeakfact
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22 posts. Level 3. Right. You never bought a ps3, but nice try. :) 360 got no games.
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#22 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]22 posts. Level 3. Right. You never bought a ps3, but nice try. :) 360 got no games.

You really think that? Anyone that doesn't like the ps3 is a liar? :O
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#23 Namgis
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Smells like troll around here...

Vari3ty

I thought there was something in the air.

Why would you not think about this before you bought it in the first place? Would have saved you the trouble of asking. If there was nothing that interested you in the PS3, then why did you buy it?

Sell it. Keep it. Got no games for you. Got Bluray. Toss up, don't fumble.

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#24 JoKeR_421
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I asked for advise not a fanboy whos a dick...Im not comparing I just wanted to know games I can buy to make me want to use my PS3

Enjae_Reaper

u cant come in here calling others fanboys when u go as far as to say xbox has better graphics then the ps3? really bro? u sounded more of a fanboy than any post i seen in ur thread. first of all to my experience since i own all consoles, they basically identical theres not difference in then UNLESS YOU PLAY exclusive games. and frankly most exclusive games on ps3 look way better than the other system. while the other system has its edges too. anyways, why buy a ps3 if u dont look up the background for games what it has, what it offers. i mean seriously bro, NO ONE here can convince u or give u reasons, cuz thats their reason for keeping it or buying it, what if that reason isnt enough for u? so my advice to u is do a lil research on EXCLUSIVE games that are on ps3 and see which catches ur attention and might be interested in. MOST games have demos on ps store, go there and download some and see what u like.

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#25 coasterguy65
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Probably a better way to ask in here would be "I'm thinking of selling my PS3. Why shouldn't I"?

You're new so maybe you missed the rules. You're really not supposed to bring up discussions about the Xbox in this forum or the PS3 in the Xbox forum...if you want to compare the systems that's what system wars is for.

That being said...If you don't find a use for a system then sell it. However unless you really need the money selling any current gen system is a bad idea. More than likely something will come out that you want to play at a later date on that system. It's not costing you anything for the system to just sit there and wait.

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#26 shaunchgo
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If you need us to give you reasons to "use it", you should get rid of it. There isn't anything we can say to convince you to keep it.
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#27 AmazonTreeBoa
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Honestly I feel like its either your with PS3 or not and if you oppose then your a loser thats the vibe I get. This is why the Xbox community is better because people actually talk to you and arnt just flammers. So w.e **** u guys except for the guy who listed games and also Im just saying that PS3's graphics look a little dated now u could have reccomended me a way to fix that but no..u decide to be a dick. Cool I hope helldogs feast on your bones

Enjae_Reaper
Blah blah blah. Stop crying and move along. Sell your PS3 and be done with it. Crying isn't going to help you any. Nobody cares what you do with your PS3. My guess is everybody here is looking at you the same way I am. As a troll. Your 360 comment about it having better graphics was the dead give away. First there was no need to mention the 360. Second the PS3 is the owner of the console graphics king which only reinforces my belief that you are trolling. and LOL at you "360 has a better community" comment. Even lemmings constantly complain the the 360 community is full of racist immature vulgar asshats.......come to think of it, you should fit right in. Go ahead and sell your PS3.
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#28 ddlcpc
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SON OF A GUN......

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#29 ShangTsung17
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[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

[QUOTE="Enjae_Reaper"]

I purchased a PS3 about 5 months ago and since the first month I haven't turned it on sense. Please let me get some reasons to use it because the graphics arn't that great as my xbox and also I feel lonely when I play it :(

almossbb

i understand your dilema, soon as i get a 360 i'm selling mine as well, as much as i hate to admit it, the ps3 just doesn't compare to the 360.. if only i knew 5 years ago what i know now about the two i would've went with a 360 no question., now as far as giving a reason to keep your ps3, well if u ever get really REALLY bored on a rainy day you'll atleast have it as an option.. lol

well if you are talking about online then sure you are right. buuut i dont see how the ps3 cant compare otherwise, they are practically the same.....

no, trust me i absolutely HATE online multiplayer... but thats really all the ps3 is good for, so basically i paid extra for something i'm never going to use.. the only thing the ps3 really has over the 360 is a better controller, but u can get used to the 360's controller..

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#30 Megavideogamer
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You feel lonely playing PS3. Online is free so make some on-line gaming pals. Or buy an extra controller and invite you reallife friends over to play Playstation 3.

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#31 almossbb
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[QUOTE="almossbb"]

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] i understand your dilema, soon as i get a 360 i'm selling mine as well, as much as i hate to admit it, the ps3 just doesn't compare to the 360.. if only i knew 5 years ago what i know now about the two i would've went with a 360 no question., now as far as giving a reason to keep your ps3, well if u ever get really REALLY bored on a rainy day you'll atleast have it as an option.. lol

ShangTsung17

well if you are talking about online then sure you are right. buuut i dont see how the ps3 cant compare otherwise, they are practically the same.....

no, trust me i absolutely HATE online multiplayer... but thats really all the ps3 is good for, so basically i paid extra for something i'm never going to use.. the only thing the ps3 really has over the 360 is a better controller, but u can get used to the 360's controller..

:shock:

you just contradicted all of my opinions on both consoles lmao.

online - goes to 360 since its a tad better and has better friend interaction

SP - ps3, as it has many great exclusives with great SP, and the online quality isnt as great as 360 (especially with friends)

controller - i thought the 360 has a much beter controller lol, but i use both anyway im not really picky.

you my friend are the first person i see that bought a ps3 for its online. usually people buy it for its exclusives and great SP. way i see it whatever great SP game on the 360 you can get on the ps3, and more.

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#32 Gxgear
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You barely play your 360 too, why pick PS3?

Here's a simple reason: you're not going to able to sell it for anywhere near what you paid for it.

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#33 ShangTsung17
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[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

[QUOTE="almossbb"]

well if you are talking about online then sure you are right. buuut i dont see how the ps3 cant compare otherwise, they are practically the same.....

almossbb

no, trust me i absolutely HATE online multiplayer... but thats really all the ps3 is good for, so basically i paid extra for something i'm never going to use.. the only thing the ps3 really has over the 360 is a better controller, but u can get used to the 360's controller..

:shock:

you just contradicted all of my opinions on both consoles lmao.

online - goes to 360 since its a tad better and has better friend interaction

SP - ps3, as it has many great exclusives with great SP, and the online quality isnt as great as 360 (especially with friends)

controller - i thought the 360 has a much beter controller lol, but i use both anyway im not really picky.

you my friend are the first person i see that bought a ps3 for its online. usually people buy it for its exclusives and great SP. way i see it whatever great SP game on the 360 you can get on the ps3, and more.

1. didn't u read my post? ( i HATE online multiplayer ) was mentioned so i can promise u i didn't buy it for stupid @ss dumb fvcking game ruining multidiot.

2. psn is free, so i fail to see how u can beleave the mp is better on 360 which uses pay to play.

3. you my friend are the first person i see that claims to prefer the awkward feeling bulky 360 controller, i'll admit its not that bad, there have been much worse like the sega saturn which caused severe hand cramps if ya played for over 30 minutes, but its certinly not as comfy as the ps3's controller, but to each there own...

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#35 slimdave21
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If you don't use your PS3, just sell it, it's as simple as that. I've owned all three consoles and prefer the PS3 the best. I sold my DS, PSP, Wii and 360, kept the PS3. It's all personal preference. I find the PS3 has the best selection of games that I like.
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#36 almossbb
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[QUOTE="almossbb"]

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] no, trust me i absolutely HATE online multiplayer... but thats really all the ps3 is good for, so basically i paid extra for something i'm never going to use.. the only thing the ps3 really has over the 360 is a better controller, but u can get used to the 360's controller..

ShangTsung17

:shock:

you just contradicted all of my opinions on both consoles lmao.

online - goes to 360 since its a tad better and has better friend interaction

SP - ps3, as it has many great exclusives with great SP, and the online quality isnt as great as 360 (especially with friends)

controller - i thought the 360 has a much beter controller lol, but i use both anyway im not really picky.

you my friend are the first person i see that bought a ps3 for its online. usually people buy it for its exclusives and great SP. way i see it whatever great SP game on the 360 you can get on the ps3, and more.

1. didn't u read my post? ( i HATE online multiplayer ) was mentioned so i can promise u i didn't buy it for stupid @ss dumb fvcking game ruining multidiot.

2. psn is free, so i fail to see how u can beleave the mp is better on 360 which uses pay to play.

3. you my friend are the first person i see that claims to prefer the awkward feeling bulky 360 controller, i'll admit its not that bad, there have been much worse like the sega saturn which caused severe hand cramps if ya played for over 30 minutes, but its certinly not as comfy as the ps3's controller, but to each there own...

lol dude i know YOU hate MP, but what i stated was what I think about the xbox. yes you gotta pay, but its still slightly better quality, and you gotta admit its so much easier and better for playing with friends. still i dont usually have live cause i dont like paying for it. what i dont like about the ps3 controller is how the armgrips are too small, and the R2/L2 triggers are so "mushy", not that good for shooters. my hands are fairly big so the 360 controller is more comfortable for me (yes i still agree its bulky). yes to each there own i guess.

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#37 nightshade869
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[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

If you want people to take you seriously and recommend something don't mention how X-box is better.

Asking for game recommendations for the PS3 doesn't have anything to do with an X-box. You can leave that part out.

Also you never mentioned what kind of games you like to play, we can't read minds.

Enjae_Reaper

Your right I can accept my down falls and I apologize for my part in the wrong doing. I like all types of games is there any besides GOW that I should look at?

Honestly at this point why are you thinking of selling the PS3. What games can you not play on the PS3 that are also on the 360 besides Gears 3? What other game came out last year worth looking at for the 360? I'm not trying to be a massive fanboy, but in reality you get all the same amazing multiplatform titles that look and run exactly the same plus you get tons of multiplatform games. Add some people on your PS3 friends list for the games you like. Here are reasons not to sell your PS3 for this year alone and I am only listing the exclusive titles: Twisted Metal, StarHawk, MLB 12 The Show, The Last of Us and tons more. You also get multiplat titles with more functionality like Bioshock Infinite, SSX, etc. Bioshock has Move and 3D support. SSX gets Mt. Fuji for free whereas Xbox will have to pay for it later. PSN is also free and the PS3 is the best bluray player on the market. I don't know what else to tell you. The only reason I am not selling my Xbox is b/c of Alan Wake American Nightmare and Halo 4. It just collects dust to be honest. There are a lot of reasons to own the PS3 in my opinion. Sony supports it a lot better than MS has the 360 lately unless you like stupid Kinect games.
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#38 Headpopper333
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I asked for advise not a fanboy whos a dick...Im not comparing I just wanted to know games I can buy to make me want to use my PS3

Enjae_Reaper

you're the D-BAG fanboy who needs to come on Gamespot and tell the internet your story, asking for reasons for you to keep your hardware. Get a life. Sell it because you definitely display symptoms of an XBOX LIVE moron.

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#39 nightshade869
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For past games you may have missed out on I highly recommend: Uncharted series, inFamous series, Heavy Rain, Killzone 3 for single player, split screen, and onine, Resistance 3 is an amazing game and you don't need to play the others. Valkyria Chronicles and Demon's Souls are two of my favorite experiences as well on the PS3.
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#40 nightshade869
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[QUOTE="Enjae_Reaper"]

I asked for advise not a fanboy whos a dick...Im not comparing I just wanted to know games I can buy to make me want to use my PS3

Headpopper333

you're the D-BAG fanboy who needs to come on Gamespot and tell the internet your story, asking for reasons for you to keep your hardware. Get a life. Sell it because you definitely display symptoms of an XBOX LIVE moron.

Well that was definitely a nice way of keeping someone in the PSN community. Don't post crap like this on the forums. TC I don't know what games you have, but right now I am playing Assassins Creed Revelations and Uncharted 3 online if you want to add me. My PSN ID and Xbox Live tag are Nightshade869. I'm not on Live like ever though b/c I don't have a wireless adapter.
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#41 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

Sorry TC, but it's not our job to justify your purchase to you.

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#42 Vari3ty
Member since 2009 • 11111 Posts

[QUOTE="Headpopper333"]

[QUOTE="Enjae_Reaper"]

I asked for advise not a fanboy whos a dick...Im not comparing I just wanted to know games I can buy to make me want to use my PS3

nightshade869

you're the D-BAG fanboy who needs to come on Gamespot and tell the internet your story, asking for reasons for you to keep your hardware. Get a life. Sell it because you definitely display symptoms of an XBOX LIVE moron.

Well that was definitely a nice way of keeping someone in the PSN community. Don't post crap like this on the forums. TC I don't know what games you have, but right now I am playing Assassins Creed Revelations and Uncharted 3 online if you want to add me. My PSN ID and Xbox Live tag are Nightshade869. I'm not on Live like ever though b/c I don't have a wireless adapter.

The guy clearly came in here with the sole intention of trolling, and he obviously never was a part of the PS community to begin with. If other people want to call him out for it by saying he's a d-bag, I think they're more than justified.

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#43 ShangTsung17
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almossbb- far as the 360's online community being better i wouldn't know as i'm not into mp, nor do i ever take part in it.. as for controllers, i can see your point on the grips being too small, especially if ya got bigger hands or what not.. i think what throws most on the 360 controller is the analog stick being where the keypad should be, it takes some getting used to, almost every genra of games except fighters are now using analog stick as movement and if your an old school ps gamer it can seem awkward at first, although i do understand microsofts reason for it.

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#44 KBFloYd
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yea the gui and stuff is most boring on ps3 even more than wii..360 is probably the liviest one...the installs and updates also sucks..

anyway its all about the games...if you have no idea what to play then you were too impulsive buying it..

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#45 Blake135
Member since 2008 • 3994 Posts

Not to ? I say sell it. I don't see why you want reasons NOT to sell it if your bored of the PS3 then sell it.

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#46 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="almossbb"]

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] i understand your dilema, soon as i get a 360 i'm selling mine as well, as much as i hate to admit it, the ps3 just doesn't compare to the 360.. if only i knew 5 years ago what i know now about the two i would've went with a 360 no question., now as far as giving a reason to keep your ps3, well if u ever get really REALLY bored on a rainy day you'll atleast have it as an option.. lol

ShangTsung17

well if you are talking about online then sure you are right. buuut i dont see how the ps3 cant compare otherwise, they are practically the same.....

no, trust me i absolutely HATE online multiplayer... but thats really all the ps3 is good for, so basically i paid extra for something i'm never going to use.. the only thing the ps3 really has over the 360 is a better controller, but u can get used to the 360's controller..

What are you talking about? PS3 has quite a bit more singleplayer experiences than the 360. Basicallly you are saying you hate the majority of Sony's first party games. Your loss.

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#48 almossbb
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almossbb- far as the 360's online community being better i wouldn't know as i'm not into mp, nor do i ever take part in it.. as for controllers, i can see your point on the grips being too small, especially if ya got bigger hands or what not.. i think what throws most on the 360 controller is the analog stick being where the keypad should be, it takes some getting used to, almost every genra of games except fighters are now using analog stick as movement and if your an old school ps gamer it can seem awkward at first, although i do understand microsofts reason for it.

ShangTsung17

true that, oyu need to actually try the online MP on both to decide. the analog position was very awkward for me, but i got used to it. i can switch from ps3 to 360 very easily now cause im used to both controllers.

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#49 Sweetbackhair
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I find these posts just interesting! :D
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#50 koryuk
Member since 2009 • 219 Posts
Does the guy even have a ps3 as it had great exclusives and more features and value than an xbox 360.