Rumor: 40GB backward compatibility hitting this October

"As german site inplaystation.de reports, downward compatibility for the 40GB PS3 will be available this october via firmware upgrade. They talked to a Sony importer from germany who told them, Sony is going to release a new firmware which allows a fully software emulation of PS2 games."

Since Sony announced that they're going to offer downloadable PS2 games in PSN, this rumor sounds believable."

http://playstation.ingame.de/content.php?c=79310&s=429

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-152943.aspx

Good news for 40GB owners if true.

great news because it should be. 40 gig should have always played ps 2 games. heck i have about 100 ps 2 games and thank goodness for my son my 20 gig model was from day one.

Good if true. Should my 60gb crap out, i'd be happy to get a BC 40gb consoleliamabob

Same here.

Great because those of us with 40GB PS3's bought them just to be able to play last gen games. I'm all about current and future gaming. I'll pass!shaunchgo

I have a 40GB and I haven't touched my PS3 for weeks now. Last gen > this gen for now.

[QUOTE="shaunchgo"]Great because those of us with 40GB PS3's bought them just to be able to play last gen games. I'm all about current and future gaming. I'll pass!LuckyLy

I have a 40GB and I haven't touched my PS3 for weeks now. Last gen > this gen for now.

Agreed 100%.

great! if its true, will be getting my 40GB PS3 in a week and would be nice to play some PS2 games i missed out on like God of War 1 & 2

great news because it should be. 40 gig should have always played ps 2 games. heck i have about 100 ps 2 games and thank goodness for my son my 20 gig model was from day one.

GARRYTH

Well the 40GB didn't have ANY PS2 parts whereas the 80GB had like a couple or one part of the PS2 which allowed it to emulate. But now Sony is doing completely software.

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great news because it should be. 40 gig should have always played ps 2 games. heck i have about 100 ps 2 games and thank goodness for my son my 20 gig model was from day one.

G-Legend

Well the 40GB didn't have ANY PS2 parts whereas the 80GB had like a couple or one part of the PS2 which allowed it to emulate. But now Sony is doing completely software.

I have no problem with software emulation as long as it plays PS2 games.

Yeah, they could just write data onto the Hard Drive I guess?

It would be cool, but I'm kinda skeptical.

P.S. G-Legend, how have you played LittleBigPlanet?

Yeah, they could just write data onto the Hard Drive I guess?

It would be cool, but I'm kinda skeptical.

P.S. G-Legend, how have you played LittleBigPlanet?

choffles

I can't see my thing so I don't know if it says it but it's suppose to be on Wishlist.

*Facepalm* I'm sorry but Sony has said that it is technically and physically impossible to do that.theycallmeryan

They also said rumble was last gen.

well since the in-game xbm rumor was true guess this one ahs a chancevitonemesis

The in-game XMB was never a rumor. The only rumor was its release date.

[QUOTE="theycallmeryan"]*Facepalm* I'm sorry but Sony has said that it is technically and physically impossible to do that.LuckyLy

They also said rumble was last gen.

And that's why you never believe PR. Anything can happen, even if it seems like the final word has been said.

well the trophies werevitonemesis

Again...Sony confirmed there would be trophies since last year. The only rumor was its release date.

link? i dont remember them saying ****vitonemesis

I'm too lazy to dig up links on old news since it will take a while. If someone in here is nice enough to post a link then please do so.

This is not new news. Sony had already stated that they were going to pring PS2 games to PSN and that the emulation would be on a game by game basis in the form of a wrapper...the same method the xbox 360 currently uses for its BC. In other words, the PSN games will run, but no others. This is not a blanket BC. Sony was telling the truth....it is technically very difficult to bring program a completely software emulator that would require compatibility with so many games. However, on a game by game basis emulation is extremely easy, since each game has its own customized emulator.

This is in response to the fact that Xbox-Live classics are extremely popular and making lots of money. BTW, the press release for above info was released around the time firmware 2.3 came out if you want to do the search.

How would the 40 gb play ps2 games when it has neither the hardware or the software to do so? I dont think its possible for a firmware update to enable backwards compatibility.hillelslovak

Firmware is irrelevent, nor is an independent software or hardware necessary. Each game will contain an a wrapper that runs as a program on the PS3 (just like every other program..games included), which contains a customized PS2 emulator specifically written for that game. It is done the same way I can play PS1 and PS2 games on my pc, just like every other game console ever created. The xbox 360 has no xbox hardware in it for emulation, which is why each xbox game must download a microsoft provided emulator in order for it to run. With enough time, they could in fact develop a full software emulator that could support almost all of the PS2 games, but your talking about development that requires time and money...so its unlikely to happen. On PSN, your talking about a handful of games, almost all of which are going to be first party (due to licensing problems). Almost guaranteed to happen. The only question is which games will be licensed for PSN use.

I don't want to download games all overagain through PSN that I have already bought... No thanks. Maybe they might implement some kind of system that would let us get it for free through PSN. But I doubt it.

I should have waited for the 80 gigs to restock :(

meh if u really are THAT bent up about BC pick up a damn ps2. 30 bucks on craigs

meh if u really are THAT bent up about BC pick up a damn ps2. 30 bucks on craigs

Miguel16

I have a PS2, but I still wish the 40GB was b/c. Why? I don't have to keep on buying memory cards for it.

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meh if u really are THAT bent up about BC pick up a damn ps2. 30 bucks on craigs

LuckyLy

I have a PS2, but I still wish the 40GB was b/c. Why? I don't have to keep on buying memory cards for it.

EXACTLY.

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[QUOTE="shaunchgo"]Great because those of us with 40GB PS3's bought them just to be able to play last gen games. I'm all about current and future gaming. I'll pass!BioShockOwnz

I have a 40GB and I haven't touched my PS3 for weeks now. Last gen > this gen for now.

Agreed 100%.

Exactly. I personally got the 40GB when the 80GB got discontinued (coming back in MGS4 bundle obviously.) Also great way to save $100:D

For those saying it is impossible for the 40gb PS3 to have PS2 BC, it is possible. The process is software emulation, the 80GB already does half of this. The portion that is already emulated by the 80GB is the emotion engine, which was a chip that tricked the PS3 into emulating the PS2 hardware. The only part that is hardware based is the graphics processor.

I would imagine though emulating the PS2 hardware/graphics processor is not an easy task due to the system architecture of the PS3. Sometimes in fact most times older technology does not play nice with newer technology, and can create weird anomalies that are really difficult to solve.

[QUOTE="hillelslovak"]How would the 40 gb play ps2 games when it has neither the hardware or the software to do so? I dont think its possible for a firmware update to enable backwards compatibility.stele29

Firmware is irrelevent, nor is an independent software or hardware necessary. Each game will contain an a wrapper that runs as a program on the PS3 (just like every other program..games included), which contains a customized PS2 emulator specifically written for that game. It is done the same way I can play PS1 and PS2 games on my pc, just like every other game console ever created. The xbox 360 has no xbox hardware in it for emulation, which is why each xbox game must download a microsoft provided emulator in order for it to run. With enough time, they could in fact develop a full software emulator that could support almost all of the PS2 games, but your talking about development that requires time and money...so its unlikely to happen. On PSN, your talking about a handful of games, almost all of which are going to be first party (due to licensing problems). Almost guaranteed to happen. The only question is which games will be licensed for PSN use.

The Xbox 360 comparison reference just restored my confidence in the ability for this to happen