(Rumour) Sony Working On PS3 Elite Model?

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#1 thb_da_one01
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Sony Working On PS3 "Elite" Model?

In a filing dated earlier this month, Sony contacted the US Federal Communications Commission to request a "****II permissive change" to the PLAYSTATION 3. This was done in accordance with changes to the included Bluetooth antenna and came from the Sony Coporation's Product Quality Office.

While FCC filings are generally dry as dust, this one has an interesting addition. A new PLAYSTATION 3 model (CECHE01) with an 80GB hard disk was listed as an additional inclusion to the original FCC grant. The two current model numbers CECHA01 and CECHB01 specify the 60GB and 20GB versions, respectively.

A 20GB jump from the top of the line PLAYSTATION 3 seems like an odd additional SKU, but we've seen stranger things happen.

Could this new hard disk represent a totally new model or simply a storage upgrade? Will the 80GB PS3 at some point become the lower-end model? We've heard in the past from inside sources that the Ken Kutaragi was pushing for the introduction of a 250GB model PS3, so future models of the console may feature increased storage. We'll be contacting Sony in the morning to gather additional details.

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#3 ddldave
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obviously that's a lie, sony don't spread rumors like microsoft, they either say it straight out or they keep it until it's the right time to say it for good
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#4 bluegender
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Fake,I bet some Fanboy made that up because of a certain system which i will not say had an upgrade.
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#5 theburg
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Folks, this is on the FCC website for crying out loud. Its NOT fake. The only issue here is whether or not sony is actually planning something. Companies file these things all the time and they are usually just for some obscure legal protection.
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#6 UntoldDreams
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The PS3 Hard disk is self upgradeable with standard laptop hard disks... ANY 2.5 hard disks.

Why would it matter and why would some stupid fanboy bother making crap like this up?

 What's more the PS3 works with external USB drives too...

Insane.

 

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#7 SirRaven
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Yeah because every japanese head honcho working for Sony Japan signs their name in english.
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#8 Thomas-Crown
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This simply a lie, it can't be true... Anyway, the HDD for the ps3 can be increase via external HDD or be completely replace by a bigger one. So no point releasing a 80g version.
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#9 emeritus
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If this is the real deal its likely for changes several years down the line, perhaps for the PSthree (small redesigned) model.
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#10 lennygundam14
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if you read this closely, it says addition of model, which possibly displays the SKU. then the version, this is probably going to phase out the 20 gb PS3.
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#11 mjf249
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What they should do is just get more 20GB models on the market, and drop the price of both models. The removal of the EE chip, and 65nm chip should cut production costs down to at least $100.
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Liars! Sony knows what theyre doing, trust me.
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#13 Charlie2688
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An Elite model? yeah its called the 60GB PS3...seriously what the hell else can they add to the 60GB PS3 to make it better? an internal nuclear power plant?, teletransportation device? time machine?

I bet you they will simply exchange the HHD, the 20 GB model will have the 60GB HDD and the 60GB model will become the 80GB model..simple and painless...unless Sony steals my ideas :shock:

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#14 americahellyeah
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thats ridiculous, an obvious fake if i ever saw one, you can upgrade the HDD to a 160 for only like a hundred bucks.
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An Elite model? yeah its called the 60GB PS3...seriously what the hell else can they add to the 60GB PS3 to make it better? an internal nuclear power plant?, teletransportation device? time machine?

I bet you they will simply exchange the HHD, the 20 GB model will have the 60GB HDD and the 60GB model will become the 80GB model..simple and painless...unless Sony steals my ideas :shock:

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lol! bingo
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#16 mjf249
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If Sony does intend to do this-- does that mean the 60GB will come all-black, and the 80GB with chrome trim? That would look sweet seeing a 80GB PS3 with have black/half crome trim :)
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[QUOTE="Charlie2688"]

An Elite model? yeah its called the 60GB PS3...seriously what the hell else can they add to the 60GB PS3 to make it better? an internal nuclear power plant?, teletransportation device? time machine?

I bet you they will simply exchange the HHD, the 20 GB model will have the 60GB HDD and the 60GB model will become the 80GB model..simple and painless...unless Sony steals my ideas :shock:

NextGenNow

lol! bingo

Hahaha...

Ummm... Holographic emitters for Dating Sims...

 :-?

 

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#18 crck
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I think Sony's goal is to reduce the price tag not create an even more expensive model.
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Yeah because every japanese head honcho working for Sony Japan signs their name in english.SirRaven

good call

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#20 bluegender
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^ Lol,smh, looks like someone is reaching.
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#21 bluegender
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That was meant for untolddreams
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#22 joevfx
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a 20 gig upgrade doesnt merit a whole new console , this is definitly bogus.
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Elite? You mean, even MORE elite? XD
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If its true, then cool. If not who cares. I don't hink it matters if Sony copies M$ on this one, cus you can swap HDDs anyway. Besdes what if they're just making PS3 brand HDD you can buy as add-ons. Id be for that.
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#25 thb_da_one01
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Perhaps this just means that they won't be manufacturing 20GB PS3s anymore. There will be 2 major models 60GB & 80GB. Remember that Kotaku has been very accurate in the past with Playstation Home.

"We've heard in the past from inside sources that the Ken Kutaragi was pushing for the introduction of a 250GB model PS3".

That'd be great!

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If its true, then cool. If not who cares. I don't hink it matters if Sony copies M$ on this one, cus you can swap HDDs anyway. Besdes what if they're just making PS3 brand HDD you can buy as add-ons. Id be for that.W3dotCOM

  Thats a possbilility -- they could be preparing to sell SONY HDD for PS3 ... a 60 gb model and a 80gb model HDD ... it makes sense and is practical !  

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Actually there was an article on a Japanese site by Kutaragi which mentioned his desire to make a "Full Cell enabled PC".

The computer would run Linux... Have one (or two) cell processors and cost something like $2000.

It would play PS3 games naturally but also be a naturally powerful computer (perhaps 1-2 gigs ram).

I guess that could be considered "elite" but only as a Workstation Computer which also was able to play PS3 games.

 

 

 

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Actually there was an article on a Japanese site by Kutaragi which mentioned his desire to make a "Full Cell enabled PC".

The computer would run Linux... Have one (or two) cell processors and cost something like $2000.

It would play PS3 games naturally but also be a naturally powerful computer (perhaps 1-2 gigs ram).

I guess that could be considered "elite" but only as a Workstation Computer which also was able to play PS3 games.

 

 

 

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To have 1 fully functional cell processor would put that price well over $2000. PC processors and Console processors are completely different breeds of functionality. Ever wonder why PC processors cost so much, and console processors seem to go at a steal inside of said consoles? Granted 360 and PS3 take a hit with each console, but that hit would be alot higher if they had Out-Of-Order execution processors like a PC. Console processors are like crippled versions of PC processors because it can still do gaming at an amazing level cause of specialized programming for specific hardware and not have to deal with the random and stressful nature of a PC's atmosphere. Then to have a fully functioning Cell built with the intent to run a PC would be well more expensive then it's console made hybrid.
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[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]

Actually there was an article on a Japanese site by Kutaragi which mentioned his desire to make a "Full Cell enabled PC".

The computer would run Linux... Have one (or two) cell processors and cost something like $2000.

It would play PS3 games naturally but also be a naturally powerful computer (perhaps 1-2 gigs ram).

I guess that could be considered "elite" but only as a Workstation Computer which also was able to play PS3 games.

 

 

 

NickinAround


To have 1 fully functional cell processor would put that price well over $2000. PC processors and Console processors are completely different breeds of functionality. Ever wonder why PC processors cost so much, and console processors seem to go at a steal inside of said consoles? Granted 360 and PS3 take a hit with each console, but that hit would be alot higher if they had Out-Of-Order execution processors like a PC. Console processors are like crippled versions of PC processors because it can still do gaming at an amazing level cause of specialized programming for specific hardware and not have to deal with the random and stressful nature of a PC's atmosphere.

I did put the words "Kutaragi's desire" in my post right?   The computer does not exist outside of his fevered dreams.

So thank you for your input.

By the way, having a CELL enabled computer to do video compression processing would demolish any current Intel based system by a factor of 10.

 

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[QUOTE="NickinAround"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]

Actually there was an article on a Japanese site by Kutaragi which mentioned his desire to make a "Full Cell enabled PC".

The computer would run Linux... Have one (or two) cell processors and cost something like $2000.

It would play PS3 games naturally but also be a naturally powerful computer (perhaps 1-2 gigs ram).

I guess that could be considered "elite" but only as a Workstation Computer which also was able to play PS3 games.

 

 

 

UntoldDreams


To have 1 fully functional cell processor would put that price well over $2000. PC processors and Console processors are completely different breeds of functionality. Ever wonder why PC processors cost so much, and console processors seem to go at a steal inside of said consoles? Granted 360 and PS3 take a hit with each console, but that hit would be alot higher if they had Out-Of-Order execution processors like a PC. Console processors are like crippled versions of PC processors because it can still do gaming at an amazing level cause of specialized programming for specific hardware and not have to deal with the random and stressful nature of a PC's atmosphere.

I did put the words "Kutaragi's desire" in my post right?   The computer does not exist outside of his fevered dreams.

So thank you for your input.

By the way, having a CELL enabled computer to do video compression processing would demolish any current Intel based system by a factor of 10.

 


I never said it wouldn't, but having a Cell processor that hasn't been crippled at the manufacturing level made for PC use for $2000 dollars would be ludicrous! Kutaragi's insane unless he wants to wait like forever when it'd be alot cheaper to manufacture.
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[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"][QUOTE="NickinAround"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]

Actually there was an article on a Japanese site by Kutaragi which mentioned his desire to make a "Full Cell enabled PC".

The computer would run Linux... Have one (or two) cell processors and cost something like $2000.

It would play PS3 games naturally but also be a naturally powerful computer (perhaps 1-2 gigs ram).

I guess that could be considered "elite" but only as a Workstation Computer which also was able to play PS3 games.

 

 

 

NickinAround


To have 1 fully functional cell processor would put that price well over $2000. PC processors and Console processors are completely different breeds of functionality. Ever wonder why PC processors cost so much, and console processors seem to go at a steal inside of said consoles? Granted 360 and PS3 take a hit with each console, but that hit would be alot higher if they had Out-Of-Order execution processors like a PC. Console processors are like crippled versions of PC processors because it can still do gaming at an amazing level cause of specialized programming for specific hardware and not have to deal with the random and stressful nature of a PC's atmosphere.

I did put the words "Kutaragi's desire" in my post right? The computer does not exist outside of his fevered dreams.

So thank you for your input.

By the way, having a CELL enabled computer to do video compression processing would demolish any current Intel based system by a factor of 10.

 


I never said it wouldn't, but having a Cell processor that hasn't been crippled at the manufacturing level made for PC use for $2000 dollars would be ludicrous! Kutaragi's insane unless he wants to wait like forever when it'd be alot cheaper to manufacture.

To be fair they have already released Cell Blade computers which are undoubtedly expensive.

http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/20249.wss

 

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Sony Working On PS3 "Elite" Model?

In a filing dated earlier this month, Sony contacted the US Federal Communications Commission to request a "****II permissive change" to the PLAYSTATION 3. This was done in accordance with changes to the included Bluetooth antenna and came from the Sony Coporation's Product Quality Office.

While FCC filings are generally dry as dust, this one has an interesting addition. A new PLAYSTATION 3 model (CECHE01) with an 80GB hard disk was listed as an additional inclusion to the original FCC grant. The two current model numbers CECHA01 and CECHB01 specify the 60GB and 20GB versions, respectively.

A 20GB jump from the top of the line PLAYSTATION 3 seems like an odd additional SKU, but we've seen stranger things happen.

Could this new hard disk represent a totally new model or simply a storage upgrade? Will the 80GB PS3 at some point become the lower-end model? We've heard in the past from inside sources that the Ken Kutaragi was pushing for the introduction of a 250GB model PS3, so future models of the console may feature increased storage. We'll be contacting Sony in the morning to gather additional details.

Source Kotaku

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this could well be true.........we will find out in a couple of months

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[QUOTE="SirRaven"]Yeah because every japanese head honcho working for Sony Japan signs their name in english.Absynthetic

good call

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Anyone else notice how the Sony and all that writing below it are a different color then the rest of the paper? FAKE.

 

Not to mention the different color of the signature lines.

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hey maybe this time with the PS3 elite, my ps3 will hover like the commercials!!!!!!!!!! lmao j.k i think its bull though
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making a 60 gig and 80 gig sony brand accessory makes more sense than a "elite" 80 gig version. adding 20 gigs doesnt make anything "elite" especiall considering how "l33t" the ps3 already is.
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#37 washimul
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making a 60 gig and 80 gig sony brand accessory makes more sense than a "elite" 80 gig version. adding 20 gigs doesnt make anything "elite" especiall considering how "l33t" the ps3 already is.MorisUkunRasik

a japanese mag reported some months ago that KUTURAGI had plans to make a ps3 with a CELL blade( 8 CELL processors) + quad-core 8800 gtx costing around 2000$.

if thats the case then i am gonna sell my ps3 (60gig) and buy that BEEFED UP SUPERCOMPUTER

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i guess kotaku is going to get blackballed again by every major electronics show, am i correct??
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If this was official wouldn't the 20gb version have to be listed on there somewhere? If the 60gb is the "Original Model" and they had to file paperwork for the 80gb "Addition Model", shouldn't there be paperwork on file for the 20gb "Addition Model" they launched with?
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If this was official wouldn't the 20gb version have to be listed on there somewhere? If the 60gb is the "Original Model" and they had to file paperwork for the 80gb "Addition Model", shouldn't there be paperwork on file for the 20gb "Addition Model" they launched with?Jamh83

 thats when you know sony is phasing out the 20gb model, but that doesnt mean that sony is going to leave those people who opted in for the 20gb model in the dust....

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is there anyone here who lives in europe, do you guys know if they are selling the 20gb model over there???
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#42 jdang307
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It's From the FCC WEBSITE!!!!!!

Sorry for yelling but you guys keep ignoring it.  Click the link, it's a direct link to the fcc.gov website.  If it's fake they filed a fake document with a government agency.

And SirRaven, you must have missed the part where the person who signed the document wrote "for" which is what people do when they sign for someone else, as an agent (not actual agent but agent in legal terms, some authorized) which most likely means someone in the US prepared and signed the document, someone from Sony in N.A. or an attorney.

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thats when you know sony is phasing out the 20gb model, but that doesnt mean that sony is going to leave those people who opted in for the 20gb model in the dust....lennygundam14
If you notice the date at the top this is supposed to be a change to an ID they were granted in September '06, if so why is there no mention of the 20gb version anywhere? Wouldn't they have had to include the 20gb with the original paperwork and if not why do they need to include the 80gb in this one? That's my question. I'm not saying it can't be legit, I'm just curious about a few discrepencies.
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[QUOTE="lennygundam14"]thats when you know sony is phasing out the 20gb model, but that doesnt mean that sony is going to leave those people who opted in for the 20gb model in the dust....Jamh83
If you notice the date at the top this is supposed to be a change to an ID they were granted in September '06, if so why is there no mention of the 20gb version anywhere? Wouldn't they have had to include the 20gb with the original paperwork and if not why do they need to include the 80gb in this one? That's my question.

Because they are saying the two are electronically identical except the hard drive capacity. With FCC filings you've got to get very specific. The 20GB model does not have wifi nor card slots.
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[QUOTE="Jamh83"][QUOTE="lennygundam14"]thats when you know sony is phasing out the 20gb model, but that doesnt mean that sony is going to leave those people who opted in for the 20gb model in the dust....jdang307
If you notice the date at the top this is supposed to be a change to an ID they were granted in September '06, if so why is there no mention of the 20gb version anywhere? Wouldn't they have had to include the 20gb with the original paperwork and if not why do they need to include the 80gb in this one? That's my question.

Because they are saying the two are electronically identical except the hard drive capacity. With FCC filings you've got to get very specific. The 20GB model does not have wifi nor card slots.

20gb models dont support wifi like he said. lol

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#47 lennygundam14
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if this happens dont you think there will be a price redection on all PS3 Like:

  •  20gb PS3 for $400
  • 60gb PS3 for $500
  • then the possible 80gb version for $600 ????
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or they could officially unofficially elminate the 20GB, slide the PS3 down $50, and leave the 80gb at $600. The price increase of just the HDD couldn't be more then a few bucks. And that way the people who bought the 60GB dont' feel ripped off cuz it's only a $50 drop. A $100 drop might have some people pissed off.
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#50 The_Exculpator
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PS3 Doesnt need an elite model its already got all the components that the xbox 360 "Elite" is "newly introducing" into the market, xbox only released the elite model when it saw that HDMI was starting to catch on, and to rival the ps3's mermory size...and obviously they thought the ps3 colour, black with chrome trim, was better than white. no racism intended.

IF, and thats a BIG IF, sony releases an "Elite" PS3 it BETTER be worth the new release and include something like Interdimensional space tech or some star wars alike projector and 200000gig space, and it runs on oxygen instead of electricity or something...