should we even care if there's no BC for PS2 on PS3?

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#1 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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Honestly... I've had a PS3 since 2007... I've just recently bought the Slim and I'm giving my PS3 to my parents to use as a Blu-Ray player. I've been reading on SEVERAL forums that people are enraged and mad at the fact that Sony pulled the ability to play PS2 games on the Slim. LOL Soooooo what? Honestly, I understand the argument by pepole but at the same time... it doesn't matter to me. I didn't play any PS2 games on my PS3 yet, never installed Linux or had a reason to want to. I think Sony could still release downloadable software emulation if they want and just charge a one time fee for it. But... I understand their reason for discontinuing to have it on PS3 as default... they are trying to push the PS3. Do you really care if there's no PS2 support? At $299, with all the features of the PS3... I don't miss it nor ever used it. What do you think?

ALSO... it's kinda weird but you can still see the virtual PS/PS2 memory card on the Slim to create saved games. So does this mean we may see software emulation??? :?

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#2 Legendaryscmt
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I still have a PS2, so I couldn't care less if BC is done for.

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#3 MAILER_DAEMON
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I bought a used 60GB for the very reason that they didn't have b/c, and I use it regularly, since there are still PS2 games that I haven't finished, and my PS2 memory card was full. My brother and I refused to get any other PS3 than something with b/c, which is why he got the 80GB MGS4 bundle last year. He never had a PS1 or 2, and I neither wanted to buy a new memory card nor had the space to keep my PS2 out.

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#4 DJ_Lae
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I'm annoyed, but only at the principle of it as I already own a backwards compatible 80GB PS3. I play PS2 games almost as much as I do PS3 games. It's convenient. I get to use my wireless controllers with PS2 games and get the advantages of unlimited memory cards that are easily backed up and traded with other people. The games are filtered a bit and look better on an HDTV than they do from a regular PS2. I also save one input on my TV and space around it by not having to keep another console around. However, I also believe they will make good with their software patent and release PS2 games on PSN. The catch? It won't be a blanket BC system patch, it'll be delivered on a per game basis so people will have to repurchase games they already own in order to play them.
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#5 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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I'm annoyed, but only at the principle of it as I already own a backwards compatible 80GB PS3. I play PS2 games almost as much as I do PS3 games. It's convenient. I get to use my wireless controllers with PS2 games and get the advantages of unlimited memory cards that are easily backed up and traded with other people. The games are filtered a bit and look better on an HDTV than they do from a regular PS2. I also save one input on my TV and space around it by not having to keep another console around. However, I also believe they will make good with their software patent and release PS2 games on PSN. The catch? It won't be a blanket BC system patch, it'll be delivered on a per game basis so people will have to repurchase games they already own in order to play them.DJ_Lae

Well said. I sold all of my PS2 games a loooong time ago though lol... so I don't own any. If they do create a PSN PS2 store that would be cool. I don't mind that. I may find some titles I would want to check out. But I don't see myself ever going to Gamestop to pick up a PS2 game. Kinda done with PS2.

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#6 whisperingmute
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To those who don't use BC, many of us still do including myself.

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#7 jagsxxfan
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this thread is so stupid....OF COURSE you want bc on your ps3...who wouldnt.....i wana be kratos in gow 1 and own not have to dust off and get the old ps2 out of the brown box in my closet....annyoing... it should have it i mean come on sony...

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#8 SagaRain
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I dont need BC I have a ps2.

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#9 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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this thread is so stupid....OF COURSE you want bc on your ps3...who wouldnt.....i wana be kratos in gow 1 and own not have to dust off and get the old ps2 out of the brown box in my closet....annyoing... it should have it i mean come on sony...

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How is the thread stupid? There are some people out there that don't have to think the way you do. It's a matter of opinion. Some people could care less about having bc on their ps3 and would rather pay $100 cheaper to NOT have it.

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#10 EVOLV3
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Yes I care, good thing I have a 60GB.

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#11 -Origin-
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I really really really wish the 80gb ps3's had backwards compatability.. I sold my ps2 a long while ago and now I want to go back playing the classics.. But I suppose that was no other fault than my own.. But still, I wish it had BC.

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#12 zaphod_b
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I'm not crazy about how these answers are weighted. The answers should be yes, no, don't care, undecided.

Anyway, at this point I could care less. I am not going back to PS2 games any time soon. If I get the urge to be nostalgic, I have a PS2 collecting dust in a closet.

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#13 thelastguy
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I never use BC and have a PS2, so I don't care

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#14 m0zart
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BC is rather important to me. I have a few PS2 consoles, but having it on the PS3 allows my games to look their best on an HDTV, not to mention allowing me to more easily keep my save data without a need for memory cards.

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#15 jagsxxfan
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BC is rather important to me. I have a few PS2 consoles, but having it on the PS3 allows my games to look their best on an HDTV, not to mention allowing me to more easily keep my save data without a need for memory cards.

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egactly what im saying...i really wish sony would include it in the 80g model or do something...because you can go through so many memory cards so fast....they hold like one madden franchise.....lol

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#16 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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I really really really wish the 80gb ps3's had backwards compatability.. I sold my ps2 a long while ago and now I want to go back playing the classics.. But I suppose that was no other fault than my own.. But still, I wish it had BC.

-Origin-

^^This

I have a 80gig PS3 if I want BC... I have the slim now.... didn't use BC on the 80gig... not gonna care about it on the Slim neither.

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#17 funsohng
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i have a ps2, so it doesnt really concern me much, but my lens on that machine isn't gonna last long...
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#18 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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has anyone seen this? Sony may have an Ace up the sleeve

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#19 sportwarrior
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I think it's a matter of principle, personally. Sony should be looking to give customers the best value possible. Considering BC could be added to each and every console at very minimal cost, I really think they should do it. Yeah it might limit their ability to sell downloadable PS2 games in the future... but last I checked people have to buy PS2 games on disc format in order to play them, too... Personally I don't mind too much. I do have an original 60gb console, but if I didn't I wouldn't miss the lack of compatability. The only PS2 games I ever play anymore are GOW 1+2 and occasionally San Andreas.
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#20 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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has anyone seen this? Sony may have an Ace up the sleeve

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kenken2g

It's clear in the pic that's MGS2 and that's PS2 so I believe there's going to be a PS2 store on PSN. Also. I have the slim... you can still create a PS2 memory card on XMB. No doubt they have an Ace up their sleeves.

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#21 ClassicPlayer
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Well the only way I see it is, if Sony could do it with the PS2, why not with the PS3? Like I'm going to get the PS3 Slim rest assured, but I'm keeping my 60GB PS3 because I don't wanna have soo much hassle getting all the memory cards again and the likes. Other than the BC, I don't think the PS3 needs to be improved in any way, thats just my opinion of it anyway.

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[QUOTE="kenken2g"]

[QUOTE="kenken2g"]

has anyone seen this? Sony may have an Ace up the sleeve

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It's clear in the pic that's MGS2 and that's PS2 so I believe there's going to be a PS2 store on PSN. Also. I have the slim... you can still create a PS2 memory card on XMB. No doubt they have an Ace up their sleeves.

That screen pic is very old... I first saw that on here over a year ago. I think it was for demonstration purposes at some conference.
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#23 im_mr_brown
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it doesn't bother me at all. i've got a ps2 that i use for rpgs still plugged up to my tv along with my ps3.

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#24 Warrior427
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thats how it should of been especially at the start when they were charging a whole lot
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#25 Silent-Hal
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I still have my PS2 and still play a lot of games on it, but surely it'd be easier if I could just play all my games on my PS3. What happens if the PS4 isn't backwards compatible? Eventually we'd get to a state where we couldn't play any of our older games.
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#26 Unknown_Hero3
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I've never actually played a PS2 game on my PS3, but i still like to brag to people that i got BC and they don't :P

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#27 punchultimate
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I'm not sure. On one hand if Sony was trying to push the PS3 why did they make a model that had BC in the first place. But honestly I don't mind. Technology's gotten nutz lately and I think we will see some kind of software emulation in the PS store especially if the 10 year life cycle holds up. Also there are plenty of PS3 games to occupy your time until you go and buy a PS2 for 100 bucks. As consoles go thats pretty cheap, even if it is last gen.

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#28 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I care. I still have my launch PS2, but it is starting to be on its last legs. I also have no room in my cabinet for the console, so when I got the PS3 I moved it down into the basement...where it hasn't been played since. I still would love to go back and play some of my favorite PS2 titles like God of War 2, Shadow of Colossus, Ico, Katamari, Beyond Good and Evil, etc. Plus, I bought Disgaea 2 right before I got the PS3/Wii and have never played it. PLUS a number of decent PS2 RPGs still come out like the last Persona game, and it would be nice if I could play it.

I probably never will do any of those things. At least not for a long time from now, because it just isn't worth the extra effort. I still HAVE to keep my PS2 (or buy a new one) if I ever want to play Guitar Hero with friends. The PS3 guitars won't work with PS3 anyway.

But for the most part I have a bunch of games I love that will probably collect dust for quite a while, and probably the occassional game that I am interested in but won't bother picking up, purely because of no BC in the PS3.

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#29 Amster_G
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I think all this BC bull has to stop. Have people actually forgotten there is such a thing as a PS2? You know, that really cheap device that plays 110% of all your games?

"Oh, but on the PS3 you get upscaling!"

Ha, yeah... - Well, either that or just have component cables and there won't be much of a difference at all.

A PS3 is a PS3 after all. A PS2 is a PS2.

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#30 eo_the_shaman
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well i think since its PS they should have it avaliable, but do i play Ps2 games on my ps3 that does have BC? not really only the MGS games. Ps2 games are games people want to play probly more so then PS1 games so i dont see why they dont put full BC in it

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#31 XturnalS
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No, I even have a BC PS3 and I don't give a flying **** about BC. Too much of a big deal is made out of it. I mean if you really wanted it then you should've shelled out $$$ at launch. Hell almost a year later they still had it.

I don't feel sorry for those that didn't get it. Usually its early adopters that get screwed and its nice to see a change of pace. IF you can't find enough games to play this gen then don't get one at all. Personally I have a backlog that is only getting bigger by the week. i can't keep up.

And if you really want to play PS2 games then get a freaking PS2. They are only 99 new and way less for a used one.

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#32 Rakuho
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i have a ps2, so i don't particularly care... with that said, obviously people wouldn't mind having an extra feature, that being B/C...but whether it's a necessity or not depends on the individual, i can't speak for everyone.
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#33 bigmack_20_20
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i actually think it's needed i own about 50 ps2 games and finding memory cards that has the saves for them is a pain. i bought a 60gb just for that and even though i don't play all of my games i still get the need to grab my old copies of ratchet and clank or play against my friends in red faction 2. another thing that kind of bothers me is that we cn play our ps1 games and not our ps2 games i may be alone on this but who really wants to go back and play those games they are horrible to look at and most of them aren't that good by todays standards. the ps2 has so many games that you have to come back to especially god of war which i still play. i think that sony doesn't want to phase out their PS2 just yet because if they gave the slim b/c nobody has a reason to buy PS2 anymore.

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#34 Darth_Sibbs
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I don't NEED the b/c, but that doesn't mean I don't want it. I have somewhere in the region of 50-60 PS2 games and always love to dust one off occasionally. I would love to be able to trade or sell my PS2 just to get rid of some clutter.
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#35 DJ_Lae
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[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

I think all this BC bull has to stop. Have people actually forgotten there is such a thing as a PS2? You know, that really cheap device that plays 110% of all your games?

"Oh, but on the PS3 you get upscaling!"

Ha, yeah... - Well, either that or just have component cables and there won't be much of a difference at all.

A PS3 is a PS3 after all. A PS2 is a PS2.

So what you're saying is that instead of Sony including a feature in your PS3 for free (as far as you're concerned) you'd rather pay $100 for a separate console, plus better cabling and a memory card? And say you own two Dual Shock 3 controllers - you'd need to buy another Dual Shock 2 in order to play two-player games when you'd be all set as is.
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#36 Furi-Kun
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No, we shouldn't care. PS2s are dirt cheap.

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#37 Eazy1891
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To those who don't use BC, many of us still do including myself.

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this...and also to those who dont use it......there are plenty of people who would love to have BC so give ur PS3 to them...not including me

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#38 bdhoff
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The only reason that it's a big deal is that Sony made it a big deal when they first introduced the PS3. That was one of the items on their bullet list when they were enumerating the reasons why the PS3 was worth $600. And it was the first thing they cut when the found they couldn't compete at that price and completely downplayed it when they found that the PS2 was the only thing carrying them.

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#39 Ospov
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I wouldn't say "don't do it!" if they offered, but I don't really mind that it doesn't have it. Granted I never had a PS2 or any games sooo yeah...Although there are still a few PS2 games I would like to play, but I'm not going to pay $100 (plus whatever the games cost) for a PS2 when all I want to do is play 2 or 3 games.

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#40 Swift_Boss_A
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Anyone who is interested in PS2 BC would already own a PS2, I think it's not that people desperately want to play PS2 games on PS3 it's just that they would like the option, in order to make PS3 the ultimate system. Though PS2 BC may not ever become a reality now on PS3 but I am 100% certain that there will be some sort of PS2 support, most likely to be PS2 store on the PS3 available in the latter half of the consoles lifecycle.

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#41 wooooode
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Well I care about BC so I got a 60gig, I dont understand why people complain so much. They want it cheap but they want every possible feature with it.
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#42 Floppy_Jim
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I have a 60GB, no. But I almost never play PS2 games on it. I'm replaying MGS2/3 now but this is like the first time for two years that I've played PS2 games on it.
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#43 Bioshockraptor
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No, we shouldn't care. I don't get why people are so fussy about this. If they're so eager to spend money on having backwards compatibility then why can't they just go out and buy a Playstation 2 System? What'd be the difference?
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#44 Rattlesnake_8
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Its a nice feature to have, and since they have the software emulation for it, there really is no excuse for them to have it on all PS3's. I have a 60gig so i have the hardware BC, i wanted to buy some good ps2 games, but ive found i have more than enough ps3 games keeping my busy so the BC doesn't really matter.. it is a nice feature to have though.
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#45 cheezy909
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Id like full bc because it would b another good feature on all PS3's. But i doubt i would play a PS2 game on my PS3 this far in2 the PS3's life.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]I'm annoyed, but only at the principle of it as I already own a backwards compatible 80GB PS3. I play PS2 games almost as much as I do PS3 games. It's convenient. I get to use my wireless controllers with PS2 games and get the advantages of unlimited memory cards that are easily backed up and traded with other people. The games are filtered a bit and look better on an HDTV than they do from a regular PS2. I also save one input on my TV and space around it by not having to keep another console around. However, I also believe they will make good with their software patent and release PS2 games on PSN. The catch? It won't be a blanket BC system patch, it'll be delivered on a per game basis so people will have to repurchase games they already own in order to play them.kenken2g

Well said. I sold all of my PS2 games a loooong time ago though lol... so I don't own any. If they do create a PSN PS2 store that would be cool. I don't mind that. I may find some titles I would want to check out. But I don't see myself ever going to Gamestop to pick up a PS2 game. Kinda done with PS2.

Took the words outtah my mouth

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#47 Symphonycometh
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I have that one Elitist PS3...err...I think it's called 60 gig, so I could care less if people can't play BC on their PS3s or not. If I update my harddrive, then ever wanting a slim would be sort of stupid on my half.
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#48 Reiji-Arisu
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I got a PS2 so I don't need BC.
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#49 famz_1
Member since 2009 • 81 Posts

we shouldn't care becuase the ps3 was made to play PS3 GAMES not ps2 games. if u wanna play ps2 games get a used ps2 on ebay or something.

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#50 motherboop
Member since 2007 • 2382 Posts

Just a note for all of the "just get a PS2" posters: There are huge benefits to having a full BC system, and really good reasons as to why it should have never been removed:

  • All three systems on one, convienient console
  • Official Wirelesscontrollers
  • No need for multitap/memory cards
  • Upscaling/HDMI support
  • A lot of our current PS2's are on their last legs (from college, etc)

I used to have many more reasons back in the day when this topic came up. Anyways, I'm just saying it's not as simple as saying "just go out and buy a PS2, they're so cheap now." Think outside the box.