so it seems, EA is

if u guys remember a whilke back whre EA or other companies were talking about online activation? where u need to enter a code or something to be able to play games online, that have multiplayer on them, well guess what i tried going on the multiplayer online for dead space and it says i needed to unlock it. and i saw inside my game case there was a code for activating the game and its online features. what im trying to get at is, i guess for those who buy the game used WONT be able to go online and play if they wanted or access anythin online related to dead space 2 lol

I think it was $5-10?Pvt_r3d

I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.-Hoax-

[QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.JoKeR_421

well, then these people need to learn that not everything is supposed to play out they way they want. reality ain't peachy and if i want to save money i won't be expecting companies to dole out goodies free of charge like they're in this for freaking charity. plus, not every game has amazing MP - Dead Space 2, for instance - so it's a decision a consumer must make for himself. on top of that, i don't think $10 is very expensive.... i have actually read reports saying that it's too cheap.

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.Jinroh_basic

well, then these people need to learn that not everything is supposed to play out they way they want. reality ain't peachy and if i want to save money i won't be expecting companies to dole out goodies free of charge like they're in this for freaking charity. plus, not every game has amazing MP - Dead Space 2, for instance - so it's a decision a consumer must make for himself. on top of that, i don't think $10 is very expensive.... i have actually read reports saying that it's too cheap.

if u guys remember a whilke back whre EA or other companies were talking about online activation? where u need to enter a code or something to be able to play games online, that have multiplayer on them, well guess what i tried going on the multiplayer online for dead space and it says i needed to unlock it. and i saw inside my game case there was a code for activating the game and its online features. what im trying to get at is, i guess for those who buy the game used WONT be able to go online and play if they wanted or access anythin online related to dead space 2 lol

JoKeR_421

thats the point, its starting already. meaning used games is going to be a thing in the past soon. if every game will require u to do this, most of the ppl are screwed. i like to buy my games new to be honest with u so it dont really effect me that much or at all. but like i said, for those who can only afford the game used or dont care about getting the game newand want to save a few bucks, they will be very disappointed lolJoKeR_421

well, then these people need to learn that not everything is supposed to play out they way they want. reality ain't peachy and if i want to save money i won't be expecting companies to dole out goodies free of charge like they're in this for freaking charity. plus, not every game has amazing MP - Dead Space 2, for instance - so it's a decision a consumer must make for himself. on top of that, i don't think $10 is very expensive.... i have actually read reports saying that it's too cheap.

I'm pretty sure it'll pay off for EA and other companies doing it initially at least. Most consumers aren't in the know about these things and think buying games used at Gamestop for $5 cheaper than new is a deal......which pretty much includes all the people at my work. Personally it doesn't affect me because I buy my games new. If anything I think it will drive used game prices down if demand for used games decreases. Gamstop isn't going to give up on used game sales just because of this. They make millions off of used game sales they aren't going to just up and quit.

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]

if u guys remember a whilke back whre EA or other companies were talking about online activation? where u need to enter a code or something to be able to play games online, that have multiplayer on them, well guess what i tried going on the multiplayer online for dead space and it says i needed to unlock it. and i saw inside my game case there was a code for activating the game and its online features. what im trying to get at is, i guess for those who buy the game used WONT be able to go online and play if they wanted or access anythin online related to dead space 2 lol

Jaguar_Shade

Yes. They did this with the FIFA games and I thought they also did this with Medal Of Honor.

[QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.JoKeR_421

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.AmnesiaHaze

They've been doing this for the recent EA sports games so it's nothing new for some of us. I still don't find it fair though.

thats the point, its starting already. meaning used games is going to be a thing in the past soon. if every game will require u to do this, most of the ppl are screwed. i like to buy my games new to be honest with u so it dont really effect me that much or at all. but like i said, for those who can only afford the game used or dont care about getting the game newand want to save a few bucks, they will be very disappointed lolJoKeR_421

Games like Dead Space should not even have MP. It is supposed to be a immersive experience. Thats what made the 1st one so great. The feeling of being alone and not knowing what was coming next. They honestly shouldve focussed more on the SP campaign and made it a lengthy and memorable one. Not talking on a headset to 5 other guys on a map that you just played 26 rounds on. Save that for the cookie cutter shooters. A game with a forgettable story like Vanquish shouldve gotten the MP treatment. Not a game like Dead Space where the story is the driving force of the game.

On topic, I think its fair to charge ppl who have bought used copies of the game to register to play online. It is not fair for the folks that have paid full retail for the game though.

I don't really care because I can almost always find a new copy from the sellers on Amazon for only a few dollars more than a used copy. I'd rather pay $5 extra for new and not worry about the condition. And the $10 fee for online if you buy it used makes it a no-brainer.

Gamestop buys used games for a $15 and sells them for $50, and people complain about EA. Whatever :P

It's good that EA is trying to make some money of the used game sales. I mean used game sales do hurt the game industry. So they're doing the right thing.

Yeah EAstarted this with sports games last year. So far I've dealt with this in NFS:HP, Madden 11, and Medal of Honor. This isn't a big problem for me because I usually get all my games new, but it sucks for people that buy used. I can see why this makes sense for EA though. It gives them money if people buy the used copies, and it's going to cut down used trade-ins and sales. Trade-in value on EA games are probably not gonna be very much. I also heard about other companies doing this same thing with their online.

Sucks for used buyers. THQ has the same policy. That's why I purchase EA games with online multiplayer on Steam whenever there's a sale. I'll pick up Dead Space 2 sometime in the future for probably 10 - 20 bucks new when there's a sale and won't need a online code to do so. :D

[QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.JoKeR_421

I wouldn't go that far. If every company did this, then yes, used games would definitely drop in sales but people would still pick them up. Don't forget about single-player only games. I usually pick up games with no online multiplayer used on Amazon. :P

It gives them money if people buy the used copies, and it's going to cut down used trade-ins and sales.

R7_3

Cutting into the used market only hurts the industry as a whole.

Also, when games only offer a 3-5 hour single player experience, I don't wanna hear crap about $60 not covering the online multiplayer service. Sell the single player separately from the online multiplayer at a significantly marked down price, or GTFO, as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="R7_3"]

It gives them money if people buy the used copies, and it's going to cut down used trade-ins and sales.

Greyfeld

Cutting into the used market only hurts the industry as a whole.

Also, when games only offer a 3-5 hour single player experience, I don't wanna hear crap about $60 not covering the online multiplayer service. Sell the single player separately from the online multiplayer at a significantly marked down price, or GTFO, as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

[QUOTE="R7_3"]

It gives them money if people buy the used copies, and it's going to cut down used trade-ins and sales.

MethodManFTW

Cutting into the used market only hurts the industry as a whole.

Also, when games only offer a 3-5 hour single player experience, I don't wanna hear crap about $60 not covering the online multiplayer service. Sell the single player separately from the online multiplayer at a significantly marked down price, or GTFO, as far as I'm concerned.

When you take away the consumers' rights to sell and trade used games, you take away a lot of money from the system, and you hurt new IPs.

Many people that buy new games do so with the understanding that they can turn around and sell it if they didn't like the game. Taking away that ability makes for a more wary consumer market. Less people will be willing to shell out $60 for a new game that they can't get any of their money back on, especially new IPs that don't have the benefit of having a franchise name to fall back on.

[QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.JoKeR_421

We all knew this would happen. The inevitable conversion to digital distribution will mean the death of the used games industry.

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"][QUOTE="-Hoax-"]I think if you buy the game used you'll have to buy an online pass code from off the PSN store.Vari3ty

We all knew this would happen. The inevitable conversion to digital distribution will mean the death of the used games industry.

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

Cutting into the used market only hurts the industry as a whole.

Also, when games only offer a 3-5 hour single player experience, I don't wanna hear crap about $60 not covering the online multiplayer service. Sell the single player separately from the online multiplayer at a significantly marked down price, or GTFO, as far as I'm concerned.

Greyfeld

When you take away the consumers' rights to sell and trade used games, you take away a lot of money from the system, and you hurt new IPs.

Many people that buy new games do so with the understanding that they can turn around and sell it if they didn't like the game. Taking away that ability makes for a more wary consumer market. Less people will be willing to shell out $60 for a new game that they can't get any of their money back on, especially new IPs that don't have the benefit of having a franchise name to fall back on.

When I buy a game, used or new, I like to have the entire game... Not just half of it. Should sell used games half off since you're only buying half a game at that point.

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"] I would definitely say cutting into the used market helps the industry.. I definitely think it's the consumers right to buy and sell what they please, but when you do buy used the publishers and developers don't get one penny of that.MethodManFTW

When you take away the consumers' rights to sell and trade used games, you take away a lot of money from the system, and you hurt new IPs.

Many people that buy new games do so with the understanding that they can turn around and sell it if they didn't like the game. Taking away that ability makes for a more wary consumer market. Less people will be willing to shell out $60 for a new game that they can't get any of their money back on, especially new IPs that don't have the benefit of having a franchise name to fall back on.

Online Passes artificially jack up the price of used games with online content. The millions of players who play online are more likely to buy th new game that already has the pass inside, rather than shell out the cash for the used game, then have to pay another $10 to play online, since they could have gotten the new game for the same price.

By artificially jacking up the price of used games, publishers will end up killing the used game market. There's little effective difference between creating a legal monopoly and blatantly making used games illegal to sell and trade.

Oooh I actually like this. It won't topple GameStop but it's a nice step forward. Let's face it, a lost used sale isn't a lost sale at all. EA has nothing to lose by alienating used games buyers, who are no different than pirates :Pistuffedsunny

This is the sign of somebody who doesn't know what the **** he's talking about. "Gamestop is the devil! People who buy used games are pirates!" So, does that mean if I just rip the game off the internet and burn it onto a disc for me to play at my own leisure, I won't get arrested for it, because it's the same thing?

Yeah, no.

Seriously, despite what your elementary school teachers told you, there is such a thing as a stupid opinion.

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="Greyfeld"]

When you take away the consumers' rights to sell and trade used games, you take away a lot of money from the system, and you hurt new IPs.

Many people that buy new games do so with the understanding that they can turn around and sell it if they didn't like the game. Taking away that ability makes for a more wary consumer market. Less people will be willing to shell out $60 for a new game that they can't get any of their money back on, especially new IPs that don't have the benefit of having a franchise name to fall back on.

Greyfeld

Online Passes artificially jack up the price of used games with online content. The millions of players who play online are more likely to buy th new game that already has the pass inside, rather than shell out the cash for the used game, then have to pay another $10 to play online, since they could have gotten the new game for the same price.

By artificially jacking up the price of used games, publishers will end up killing the used game market. There's little effective difference between creating a legal monopoly and blatantly making used games illegal to sell and trade.

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Oooh I actually like this. It won't topple GameStop but it's a nice step forward. Let's face it, a lost used sale isn't a lost sale at all. EA has nothing to lose by alienating used games buyers, who are no different than pirates :PGreyfeld

This is the sign of somebody who doesn't know what the **** he's talking about. "Gamestop is the devil! People who buy used games are pirates!" So, does that mean if I just rip the game off the internet and burn it onto a disc for me to play at my own leisure, I won't get arrested for it, because it's the same thing?

Yeah, no.

Seriously, despite what your elementary school teachers told you, there is such a thing as a stupid opinion.

I dont actually mind paying an amount to have the mp of a game to be honest what I do get annoyed about is when places like GAME and GAMESTATION charge almost as much for a used copy as they do for a new one. I dont have a lot of money so spending £40 for a new game is a rarity but I dont mind spending £20-£25.

Case in point was Black ops, I got it around christmas they wanted £39 for it used and it was £45 new.

They have been doing this for a year.

Thanks for warning me. I won't be buying it now.

the next great ideaa is probablygonna be a single player pass , when you buy a used copy you will have to pay for SP and/or MP , 10$ each

Meh.. doesn't affect me. I'd still buy it used in a few months when the price is cheaper even with the $10 MP add on...

Is this happening in every region? Europe to be more specific.

Will it say so somewhere on the game cover if a game requires an online authentication code ? If not, how do I find out if a game does ?

This doesn't effect me much since every game I have for the PS3 I've bought new, but I don't like this trend and do not want to support games with this feature.

leeches. i buy used games all the time. me and my friends trade them.

I think every game that makes you pay for online should have an open 1 hour trial game to download on PSN. It doesn't have to be free, just maybe £1 an hour is acceptable, or first hour free if you're on PSN+. Otherwise now I can't try the game before I buy & I won't know if it's worth the price of the "full online pass". I couldn't get into the DS2 beta either so I have no idea if I'd like the multiplayer.

This is why I rented a lot of games until now, but if EA keeps this up I can't even risk renting their games anymore unless I stick to offline. Nor can I sell games I don't use anymore. Now I can only buy EA games that I know will be keepers.. so now let me see, on PS3 so far I've played 6 EA games... & how many of those are still in my collection? ... 2 ... that's great. :\

if u guys remember a whilke back whre EA or other companies were talking about online activation? where u need to enter a code or something to be able to play games online, that have multiplayer on them, well guess what i tried going on the multiplayer online for dead space and it says i needed to unlock it. and i saw inside my game case there was a code for activating the game and its online features. what im trying to get at is, i guess for those who buy the game used WONT be able to go online and play if they wanted or access anythin online related to dead space 2 lol

JoKeR_421