So what's up with this??(MGS4)

That shot is from the latest MGS4 trailer released last september. It was from the old build. Could you plz tell me what's wrong with graphics?? Personally I LOVE the details on Vamp's face and his hair is awesome!! What more do you want......KOJIMA?

I can hardly see the pixels in the close up!

Amazing.

I trust you are a MGS fan and you need to know Kojima is a perfectionist and I'm sure you know.

He wanted the graphics to be like the first footage he showed in TGS 2006, they couldn't achieve that because of the budget.

the game looks great but you need to know developers and any other professionals never are satisfied with their work.

I trust you are a MGS fan and you need to know Kojima is a perfectionist and I'm sure you know.

He wanted the graphics to be like the first footage he showed in TGS 2006, they couldn't achieve that because of the budget.

the game looks great but you need to know developers and any other professionals never are satisfied with their work.

Star650

True that.

Perfectionists are never sattisfied with their work , artists doubly so.

That shot is from the latest MGS4 trailer released last september. It was from the old build. Could you plz tell me what's wrong with graphics?? Personally I LOVE the details on Vamp's face and his hair is awesome!! What more do you want......KOJIMA?

AgentH

the question is though, is that a pre-rendered cut-scene or actual gameplay.

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

That shot is from the latest MGS4 trailer released last september. It was from the old build. Could you plz tell me what's wrong with graphics?? Personally I LOVE the details on Vamp's face and his hair is awesome!! What more do you want......KOJIMA?

nohnaimer

the question is though, is that a pre-rendered cut-scene or actual gameplay.

i thought the prerendered graphics were gone in this generation, all the cutscenes are actual gameplay

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

That shot is from the latest MGS4 trailer released last september. It was from the old build. Could you plz tell me what's wrong with graphics?? Personally I LOVE the details on Vamp's face and his hair is awesome!! What more do you want......KOJIMA?

nohnaimer

the question is though, is that a pre-rendered cut-scene or actual gameplay.

Ever since TGS 2005 till this day, all MGS4 trailers been real-time.

Kojima was expecting a system 15-20 years more advanced than anything here. Sure PS3 is a powerful system, but even it has it's limits as well. Even the greatest gaming PC today has it's limits. Kojima should've known that the what he wants isn't even possible right now. It's like Shigeru Miyamoto expecting Mario 64 during the NES days. Blunt example, but what it requires is about the same. It can't be done right now.

Now my personal opinion about the game? I think it looks freakn' great and I've been waiting since 2005 to play this.

Dude....those graphics are HORRIBLY good.

:P

Dude....those graphics are HORRIBLY good.

:P

ParadiseAwaits

seriously....that pic makes me drool only that much more

Perfect for us is mediocre to Kojima. The day he achieves perfection is the day our eyeballs explode when we see it. I think that's how good he is.kingdre

In that case im happy for him not to reach (in his eyes) perfection.

What Kojima wants is not better graphics, but a bigger game ( AKA big ass environment with more gameplay option)

Kojima is insane!

cant forget what kojima said huh ? me too , but seriously , i expect nothing less from a perfectionist or h/e its spelled, even if he made the characters jump out of the t.v and make their fight in ur living room he will still NOT be satisfied, the game is just pefect, and i remember he did the same thing with mgs2, no worries then, he'll get over it :Dlociefer

having the characters jump out of the screen would be pretty cool though.

It's not the visuals it self that makes him angry but the way how the levels are build. I think he wanted to create an open world, just like GTA, but with an story mode just like MGS. Or just like Crisis, with big islands and so on. But they had to make those level segments, just like they did in older MGS games.

And personnaly, I don't see any differences between the first 06 trailer and those new ones. He sad, that he expected a 10 times better version from that one, but in fact it's now just a 1 time better version. This also was the reason for his statement.

I think Kojima want some real moving people,when you play MGS4 >_>..Bloodseeker23

You're not actually getting a game, you're getting five acting slaves. :shock:

Of course, that could be a pre-rendered cut-scene. If it looks like that in-game, then Kojima did an amazing job and should stop being so hard on himself. What I have seen of gameplay, though, is impressive graphically.dewmandew7

All real-time and from the old build(September), the game when released will look better than this.

[QUOTE="dewmandew7"]Of course, that could be a pre-rendered cut-scene. If it looks like that in-game, then Kojima did an amazing job and should stop being so hard on himself. What I have seen of gameplay, though, is impressive graphically.AgentH

All real-time and from the old build(September), the game when released will look better than this.

The game looks great even now, you are just making a big deal out of nothing. Kojima always says he is not satisfied with his work what he said about MGS4 is the same what he said about MGS2.

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

[QUOTE="dewmandew7"]Of course, that could be a pre-rendered cut-scene. If it looks like that in-game, then Kojima did an amazing job and should stop being so hard on himself. What I have seen of gameplay, though, is impressive graphically.Star650

All real-time and from the old build(September), the game when released will look better than this.

The game looks great even now, you are just making a big deal out of nothing. Kojima always says he is not satisfied with his work what he said about MGS4 is the same what he said about MGS2.

Making a big deal? wtf? I know Kojima more than anyone.

No you don't if you did you wouldn't have created a topic complaining about what Kojima said since you are a fan of the series you should be more excited about the game.

I know you created this topic because of what other members been saying about this, but just ignore it man.

in 12 June you will be busy playing it than to think of what others think about it.

No you don't if you did you wouldn't have created a topic complaining about what Kojima said since you are a fan of the series you should be more excited about the game.

I know you created this topic because of what other members been saying about this, but just ignore it man.

in 12 June you will be busy playing it than to think of what others think about it.

Star650

Dude I LOVE METAL GEAR no matter what Kojima says. wtf? I'm dying to play it!

I don't get it, what exactly are you whining about? Am I just slow or does that opening comment make no sense.

Anway, I think Kojima's perfectionism is a virtue of his, how else would gaming progress, if people didn't push the limits?

yea.. i think they got some potent w**d over there... Think about it... all the big tyme names are complaining about stuff not meeting their goals..

Shig.... Mario

Kutaragi... Playstation

Kojima... Metal Gear

[QUOTE="AgentH"]

That shot is from the latest MGS4 trailer released last september. It was from the old build. Could you plz tell me what's wrong with graphics?? Personally I LOVE the details on Vamp's face and his hair is awesome!! What more do you want......KOJIMA?

nohnaimer

the question is though, is that a pre-rendered cut-scene or actual gameplay.

dude thats actual graphics- any true gamer could immediatley tell the difference

Kojima talked about the graphics not the gameplay, he's an ass lol, don't care too much of what he said, now that everyone is in hype low, when the game comes out it will be a BIG BANG!

the thing that got me upset a bit, was that he said that the PS3 didn't bla bla bla, wich can be missunderstood as the ps3 is weak ( WICH IS TOTALLY NOT ) but i bet the xborzfanboyzrz are jumping naked now, but GUESS WHAT NAKED JUMPERS? if in the ps3 it's '' at it's limit '' or something , forget about MGS in your console.

PS to mod: i wrote xborz k? k thx

in the trailers ive seen a female character with wavy hair,,, when she moved it remains a solid block,,, thats really bad considering most games out 3 years ago still had hair that moves with the environment.... that being said, from screenshots the game doesnt look too groundbreaking but the gameplay demonstration looked pretty amazingsignore

have you seen this trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaHo5poEdJU

her hair looks realistic to me.

and uh, you never seen a girl with hair like that (that one with the big red hair)??? its called hairspray.

lol its funny how every nerd in here has explanation for kojimas thoughts and words. lol, you never met him and probably never will know him.ronniepage588

so?

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]lol its funny how every nerd in here has explanation for kojimas thoughts and words. lol, you never met him and probably never will know him.Fitipali

so?

i imagined you saying that with a napoleon dynamite voice.

well well lets all be friends and make out!! :D

I only played mgs1 countless times and loved it.. from what ive seen the graphics are awesome and the game sure will own hard.

awesome gameplay and storyline :P cant wait any longer :D

[QUOTE="Fitipali"]

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]lol its funny how every nerd in here has explanation for kojimas thoughts and words. lol, you never met him and probably never will know him.ronniepage588

so?

i imagined you saying that with a napoleon dynamite voice.

wow man your IMAGINATION ROCKS! HOW DID YOU FOUND OUT ARE YOU A GENIUZ? don't read my mind noooooo

[QUOTE="Star650"]

I trust you are a MGS fan and you need to know Kojima is a perfectionist and I'm sure you know.

He wanted the graphics to be like the first footage he showed in TGS 2006, they couldn't achieve that because of the budget.

the game looks great but you need to know developers and any other professionals never are satisfied with their work.

The_Tombo

True that.

Perfectionists are never sattisfied with their work , artists doubly so.