Some advice please.

I'm buying a PSP,and i've researched two games MGS portable ops,and Killzone,but i still can't decide which to buy as a first game any advice from you PSP owners.

Dude, you should go with killzone, MGS for the PSP is so overrated, everyboy thinks its the best thing ever. To tell u the truth, i've enjoyed MGAcid 2 more than MGS portable ops, the camera is so frustrating and the PSP is the best option to make a MGS the old fashion-way,  with the over head camera, but they didint.

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers, ur gona find ur self strugling with the camera in this game, if not, Killzone.

Dude, you should go with killzone, MGS for the PSP is so overrated, everyboy thinks its the best thing ever. To tell u the truth, i've enjoyed MGAcid 2 more than MGS portable ops, the camera is so frustrating and the PSP is the best option to make a MGS the old fashion-way,  with the over head camera, but they didint.

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers, ur gona find ur self strugling with the camera in this game, if not, Killzone.

narley

I don't know what's wrong with you but the camera wasn't as problematic as you make it out to be. It certainly didn't stop me from knocking out everyone in the hospital area and dragging them back to the truck one by one without the place going into full alert once.

And really, if you were having so much problems with the camera, you could have easily just made your life easier by using a recruit that blended in with the enemy soldiers in the area. You pretty much negate any problems you may have had because of the camera right there because it doesn't matter if the enemy sees you unless you are doing something suspicious and if you get caught doing something suspicious like bringing a guard back to the truck, it really probably was because you didn't survey the area and the routes of the enemy soldiers well enough while incognito.

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Dude, you should go with killzone, MGS for the PSP is so overrated, everyboy thinks its the best thing ever. To tell u the truth, i've enjoyed MGAcid 2 more than MGS portable ops, the camera is so frustrating and the PSP is the best option to make a MGS the old fashion-way,  with the over head camera, but they didint.

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers, ur gona find ur self strugling with the camera in this game, if not, Killzone.

RurouniSaiyajin

I don't know what's wrong with you but the camera wasn't as problematic as you make it out to be. It certainly didn't stop me from knocking out everyone in the hospital area and dragging them back to the truck one by one without the place going into full alert once.

And really, if you were having so much problems with the camera, you could have easily just made your life easier by using a recruit that blended in with the enemy soldiers in the area. You pretty much negate any problems you may have had because of the camera right there because it doesn't matter if the enemy sees you unless you are doing something suspicious and if you get caught doing something suspicious like bringing a guard back to the truck, it really probably was because you didn't survey the area and the routes of the enemy soldiers well enough while incognito.

Dude, im just telling it like it is, the game has a lot of issues. "Recruting soldiers to ur personal army" sound fun, but when ur playing a game about recruting soldiers to ur personal army so u wont get caught, and thats it, it gets anoying. Its not like im yelling "THIS GAME BLOWS!!!!", cause the multyplayer is somewhat fun, and its not like i dont like MGS, i like that wiked story the games always have, but to try and copy the console feel of the game to a portable system with out the proper usage of butons, that makes it a bad decision.

Look at syphonfilter, its also a stealth-action game but the camere never gets in ur way, even when ur up against the wall, the camera changes to give u the best view out of the corner to pop one right on the bad dude's head. And killzone, the developers knew they couldnt copy the feel of the home console version, so the made a change in the gameplay and didint ruin it, they made the proper game from their franchise, for the portable system. This is what i mean about MGS portable ops, its a MGS game, but it wasnt properlly executed.

Dude, you should go with killzone, MGS for the PSP is so overrated, everyboy thinks its the best thing ever. To tell u the truth, i've enjoyed MGAcid 2 more than MGS portable ops, the camera is so frustrating and the PSP is the best option to make a MGS the old fashion-way, with the over head camera, but they didint.

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers, ur gona find ur self strugling with the camera in this game, if not, Killzone.

narley

finally someone who islike me and didn't enjoy MGS:PO if u big fan of the series get it but i didn't like it so much syphon filter is superior to it in both controls and gameplay. wierd i liked MGS on ps2 and hated syphon filter on ps2 buts its the exact opposite on the psp :?!

Dude, im just telling it like it is, the game has a lot of issues. "Recruting soldiers to ur personal army" sound fun, but when ur playing a game about recruting soldiers to ur personal army so u wont get caught, and thats it, it gets anoying. Its not like im yelling "THIS GAME BLOWS!!!!", cause the multyplayer is somewhat fun, and its not like i dont like MGS, i like that wiked story the games always have, but to try and copy the console feel of the game to a portable system with out the proper usage of butons, that makes it a bad decision.

Look at syphonfilter, its also a stealth-action game but the camere never gets in ur way, even when ur up against the wall, the camera changes to give u the best view out of the corner to pop one right on the bad dude's head. And killzone, the developers knew they couldnt copy the feel of the home console version, so the made a change in the gameplay and didint ruin it, they made the proper game from their franchise, for the portable system. This is what i mean about MGS portable ops, its a MGS game, but it wasnt properlly executed.

narley

...Did you even play the game? Or did you just try the first two missions and put the game down?

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror is indeed a stealth-action game. It is not a tactical espionage action game like Metal Gear Solid. Stealth isn't focused on in any shape or form in this installment. You can practically play Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror from beginning to end without using any stealth if you wish. In Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Stealth is the focus. The idea of the game isn't for the camera to automatically give you a clear view of a bad guy so you can get a good head shot on him. The idea of the game is to focus on you getting a clear view of the guards without exposing yourself. So if you are up against the wall and you want to know if there's a guard around the corner, you have to peek/move the camera yourself. The point is to encourage you to be cautious and mindful of what you are actually doing like every MGS game has always been about, making the game more about being a ghost than a one man killing machine. It's important to understand that because this is especially the point of this installment, which is why you are recruiting other soldiers to help in the first place.

[QUOTE="narley"]

Dude, im just telling it like it is, the game has a lot of issues. "Recruting soldiers to ur personal army" sound fun, but when ur playing a game about recruting soldiers to ur personal army so u wont get caught, and thats it, it gets anoying. Its not like im yelling "THIS GAME BLOWS!!!!", cause the multyplayer is somewhat fun, and its not like i dont like MGS, i like that wiked story the games always have, but to try and copy the console feel of the game to a portable system with out the proper usage of butons, that makes it a bad decision.

Look at syphonfilter, its also a stealth-action game but the camere never gets in ur way, even when ur up against the wall, the camera changes to give u the best view out of the corner to pop one right on the bad dude's head. And killzone, the developers knew they couldnt copy the feel of the home console version, so the made a change in the gameplay and didint ruin it, they made the proper game from their franchise, for the portable system. This is what i mean about MGS portable ops, its a MGS game, but it wasnt properlly executed.

RurouniSaiyajin

...Did you even play the game? Or did you just try the first two missions and put the game down?

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror is indeed a stealth-action game. It is not a tactical espionage action game like Metal Gear Solid. Stealth isn't focused on in any shape or form in this installment. You can practically play Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror from beginning to end without using any stealth if you wish. In Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Stealth is the focus. The idea of the game isn't for the camera to automatically give you a clear view of a bad guy so you can get a good head shot on him. The idea of the game is to focus on you getting a clear view of the guards without exposing yourself. So if you are up against the wall and you want to know if there's a guard around the corner, you have to peek/move the camera yourself. The point is to encourage you to be cautious and mindful of what you are actually doing like every MGS game has always been about, making the game more about being a ghost than a one man killing machine. It's important to understand that because this is especially the point of this installment, which is why you are recruiting other soldiers to help in the first place.

You still dont get my point, kid. I said its a MGS game that wasnt properlly executed, of course ur suposed to be all ghost-like since its a MGS game, but the succes for the franchise was built upon the first 3 games with out counting the special edition one, there for, the third person view of the special edition, is some sort of an add-on for an already succesfull game. The fact that they implemented the third person view on the PSP game, was simply to rub-off the succes of the latest console version of the game, wich again, was already succesfull with out the third person view. Its not like i dont like that add on, it shows their trying to improve their franchise, but the PSP game was designed with a gameplay factor that had been designed for the PS2 in the first place, it wasnt properly executed on the psp.

I compared it to syphonfilter to show u how a game can be done right in the PSP, even though it has less butons than it's console counterpart, not because it was a "complex, tactical, espionaje, action-e" game. MGS for the PSP is a stealth game, but its not like u can't have a shoot out with a couple of guards and then hide, u can do that in all the other console versions. If a wanted to play a stealth game that "punishes" u for getting caught or noticed, i and almost everybody else would probably chose something like Splinter Cell. Im not bashing ur taste on games, im waylling on the bad game that konami decided to release to represent their MGS franchise on the PSP, if they had gone for the clasic feel of the series, u could still be all  stelath-e, and have a good story.

You still dont get my point, kid. I said its a MGS game that wasnt properlly executed, of course ur suposed to be all ghost-like since its a MGS game, but the succes for the franchise was built upon the first 3 games with out counting the special edition one, there for, the third person view of the special edition, is some sort of an add-on for an already succesfull game. The fact that they implemented the third person view on the PSP game, was simply to rub-off the succes of the latest console version of the game, wich again, was already succesfull with out the third person view. Its not like i dont like that add on, it shows their trying to improve their franchise, but the PSP game was designed with a gameplay factor that had been designed for the PS2 in the first place, it wasnt properly executed on the psp.

I compared it to syphonfilter to show u how a game can be done right in the PSP, even though it has less butons than it's console counterpart, not because it was a "complex, tactical, espionaje, action-e" game. MGS for the PSP is a stealth game, but its not like u can't have a shoot out with a couple of guards and then hide, u can do that in all the other console versions. If a wanted to play a stealth game that "punishes" u for getting caught or noticed, i and almost everybody else would probably chose something like Splinter Cell. Im not bashing ur taste on games, im waylling on the bad game that konami decided to release to represent their MGS franchise on the PSP, if they had gone for the clasic feel of the series, u could still be all  stelath-e, and have a good story.

narley

I'm afraid its you who doesn't get it, "kid".

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror works so well in its adaptation to portable because they got rid of pretty much all of the obligatory stealth necessary in the first four games in the series. It's pretty much just a tactical shooter that's loose on the tactical part in its PSP incarnation. It made the transition well but the transition didn't come without a price.

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops isn't meant to mimic the console versions where they encourage you to have a shoot out with the guards if that's the way you want to play it. Otherwise, the balancing would be completely thrown off because you could easily kill all the potential reinforcements between the health of two of your recruits and then have your last two recruits finish the mission without anyone to hinder them at all. Just like Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, a sacrifice had to be made design wise in order to get the most out of the new and returning features. However, it isn't like Kojima ignored the original crowd that likes to go the action route. They can still do that. It's just you have to be more strategical about it so that it isn't an easy task that pretty much makes the whole game really easy to go through now that you have four recruits to get the job done.  

It isn't that Kojima failed to adapt it well to the PSP. It's that you failed to adapt to the new adaptation to the PSP, which isn't surprising at all since you sound like you didn't get that far in the game before you decided it was a "bad" game. The camera issues aren't as hampering to the point that the game is a chore, more than a fun game as you make it out to be. I'm sorry that you feel that way but really, it isn't like that at all.

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You still dont get my point, kid. I said its a MGS game that wasnt properlly executed, of course ur suposed to be all ghost-like since its a MGS game, but the succes for the franchise was built upon the first 3 games with out counting the special edition one, there for, the third person view of the special edition, is some sort of an add-on for an already succesfull game. The fact that they implemented the third person view on the PSP game, was simply to rub-off the succes of the latest console version of the game, wich again, was already succesfull with out the third person view. Its not like i dont like that add on, it shows their trying to improve their franchise, but the PSP game was designed with a gameplay factor that had been designed for the PS2 in the first place, it wasnt properly executed on the psp.

I compared it to syphonfilter to show u how a game can be done right in the PSP, even though it has less butons than it's console counterpart, not because it was a "complex, tactical, espionaje, action-e" game. MGS for the PSP is a stealth game, but its not like u can't have a shoot out with a couple of guards and then hide, u can do that in all the other console versions. If a wanted to play a stealth game that "punishes" u for getting caught or noticed, i and almost everybody else would probably chose something like Splinter Cell. Im not bashing ur taste on games, im waylling on the bad game that konami decided to release to represent their MGS franchise on the PSP, if they had gone for the clasic feel of the series, u could still be all  stelath-e, and have a good story.

RurouniSaiyajin

I'm afraid its you who doesn't get it, "kid".

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror works so well in its adaptation to portable because they got rid of pretty much all of the obligatory stealth necessary in the first four games in the series. It's pretty much just a tactical shooter that's loose on the tactical part in its PSP incarnation. It made the transition well but the transition didn't come without a price.

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops isn't meant to mimic the console versions where they encourage you to have a shoot out with the guards if that's the way you want to play it. Otherwise, the balancing would be completely thrown off because you could easily kill all the potential reinforcements between the health of two of your recruits and then have your last two recruits finish the mission without anyone to hinder them at all. Just like Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, a sacrifice had to be made design wise in order to get the most out of the new and returning features. However, it isn't like Kojima ignored the original crowd that likes to go the action route. They can still do that. It's just you have to be more strategical about it so that it isn't an easy task that pretty much makes the whole game really easy to go through now that you have four recruits to get the job done.  

It isn't that Kojima failed to adapt it well to the PSP. It's that you failed to adapt to the new adaptation to the PSP, which isn't surprising at all since you sound like you didn't get that far in the game before you decided it was a "bad" game. The camera issues aren't as hampering to the point that the game is a chore, more than a fun game as you make it out to be. I'm sorry that you feel that way but really, it isn't like that at all.

LOL, dude, this isnt about me waylling on your favorite game, is it? "i didint adapt to the adaptation?" thats like saying "movie critics dont get that video games are a form of art". They totally tell some sick stories, but video games are still a form of entertainment like movies where at the begining.

If everybody "adapted" to new games, there would be no bad reviews out there, meaning all games would be above a 9.0 at gamespot and other review sites and so on...     Its like the nobody "adapted" to the horrible gameplay, the crap-tacular graphics, the horrendes story line (if any) and the odd bugs that plaged the game Superman 64. Maybe u didint "adapt" to the "PSP incarnation" of syphonfilter and u didint see the "tactical part" anywhere, or maybe ur just to cought up in ur some-what strange facination with kojima, and his MGS games and ur just over-seeing all the issues the game's got because your such a fan of the series, KID. "Adapt" to that, LOL.

LOL, dude, this isnt about me waylling on your favorite game, is it? "i didint adapt to the adaptation?" thats like saying "movie critics dont get that video games are a form of art". They totally tell some sick stories, but video games are still a form of entertainment like movies where at the begining.

If everybody "adapted" to new games, there would be no bad reviews out there, meaning all games would be above a 9.0 at gamespot and other review sites and so on...     Its like the nobody "adapted" to the horrible gameplay, the crap-tacular graphics, the horrendes story line (if any) and the odd bugs that plaged the game Superman 64. Maybe u didint "adapt" to the "PSP incarnation" of syphonfilter and u didint see the "tactical part" anywhere, or maybe ur just to cought up in ur some-what strange facination with kojima, and his MGS games and ur just over-seeing all the issues the game's got because your such a fan of the series, KID. "Adapt" to that, LOL.

narley

Wow. You really can't get it through your fanboy head can you? Your quote should be more like "You played a video game expecting it to be like a movie". In other words, you picked up your PSP and you expected it to play just like the MGSs on the consoles and it didn't and instead of adapting to the PSP experience, you choose to call the game "crap" because it wasn't like the PS2 versions. It's because of fanboys like you that DS fanboys keep running around saying that PSP is simply for gamers who want to play their PS2 on the go and it isn't at all. The PSP is its own experience and it shouldn't play like a PS2 game, it should play like a PSP game other wise, why play it on the PSP?

There's no implication that you should adapt to a crap game at all. The implication is that you need to get it through your head that it isn't the PS2 version you are playing. It's the PSP version. Things will work differently but if you can't handle it because you are too hung up on how the PS2 version is designed to play then stick with the PS2 version. But don't be mistaken that it was you who failed to acknowledge that the PSP version is its own, unique experience designed differently than the PS1/PS2 versions that made the game bad and not that the game itself was bad at all.

Typical fanboy behavior. Once their fanboy logic runs out, their last resort is trying to belittle their opposition. Such tactics won't work on me. In System Wars, there are fanboys there that just simply put you to shame. Simply put, you are going to have to try harder. Actually, if this were System Wars, you'd have zero credibility at all for not even playing the game half way through or to the end. I don't even know why I'm giving you the chance to argue your point.

wow guys you need to learn everybody doesn't have to agree. MPO is a cool game on the PSP, hell it's one of the best around IMO but some including me feel that the top-down view found in other mgs would of fit the game better .. doesnt mean it's a ba game I got use to the controls the way they are but a 3/4 top-down option would of been cool.

As for shooters on the PSP Syphon Filter dark mirror, Socom FTB 2, MPO, Killzone Liberation are the best on the PSP! 

wow guys you need to learn everybody doesn't have to agree. MPO is a cool game on the PSP, hell it's one of the best around IMO but some including me feel that the top-down view found in other mgs would of fit the game better .. doesnt mean it's a ba game I got use to the controls the way they are but a 3/4 top-down option would of been cool.

B-bad

I already know this but I felt the need to step in when he suggested that the title should be avoided like the plague without noting that it was his personal opinion. This isn't the first time he's said this definitively about the game when people asked if it was any good.

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LOL, dude, this isnt about me waylling on your favorite game, is it? "i didint adapt to the adaptation?" thats like saying "movie critics dont get that video games are a form of art". They totally tell some sick stories, but video games are still a form of entertainment like movies where at the begining.

If everybody "adapted" to new games, there would be no bad reviews out there, meaning all games would be above a 9.0 at gamespot and other review sites and so on...     Its like the nobody "adapted" to the horrible gameplay, the crap-tacular graphics, the horrendes story line (if any) and the odd bugs that plaged the game Superman 64. Maybe u didint "adapt" to the "PSP incarnation" of syphonfilter and u didint see the "tactical part" anywhere, or maybe ur just to cought up in ur some-what strange facination with kojima, and his MGS games and ur just over-seeing all the issues the game's got because your such a fan of the series, KID. "Adapt" to that, LOL.

RurouniSaiyajin

Wow. You really can't get it through your fanboy head can you? Your quote should be more like "You played a video game expecting it to be like a movie". In other words, you picked up your PSP and you expected it to play just like the MGSs on the consoles and it didn't and instead of adapting to the PSP experience, you choose to call the game "crap" because it wasn't like the PS2 versions. It's because of fanboys like you that DS fanboys keep running around saying that PSP is simply for gamers who want to play their PS2 on the go and it isn't at all. The PSP is its own experience and it shouldn't play like a PS2 game, it should play like a PSP game other wise, why play it on the PSP?

There's no implication that you should adapt to a crap game at all. The implication is that you need to get it through your head that it isn't the PS2 version you are playing. It's the PSP version. Things will work differently but if you can't handle it because you are too hung up on how the PS2 version is designed to play then stick with the PS2 version. But don't be mistaken that it was you who failed to acknowledge that the PSP version is its own, unique experience designed differently than the PS1/PS2 versions that made the game bad and not that the game itself was bad at all.

Typical fanboy behavior. Once their fanboy logic runs out, their last resort is trying to belittle their opposition. Such tactics won't work on me. In System Wars, there are fanboys there that just simply put you to shame. Simply put, you are going to have to try harder. Actually, if this were System Wars, you'd have zero credibility at all for not even playing the game half way through or to the end. I don't even know why I'm giving you the chance to argue your point.

LOL, fanboy? look at u...     "U didint adapt to MGS for the PSP", "Kojima didint forget the...",     dude!!!!       What, about me not enjoing MGS for the PSP, is fanboy behavior? Where talking about MGS "It's the PSP version" (quote from a KID i know), and since it's for the PSP, it shouldnt be relying on PS2 game factors, like a third person camera view, its the PSP, not a PS2.

Get it trhough your fan boy head that the game has issues. Just like i like Zelda games, but i hated Wind waker, and i wasnt to impresed with Twillight princes. No KID, it's not that i didint "adapt" to the new style of the games, its that i expected more from a game that has done way better and has a tendency of out-doing it self every time its released. Same thing with MGS for the PSP, The system and the game are capable of a lot more than that. This KID i know, said that some games have lost some "stuff" in the transition from the PS2 to the PSP, why couldnt it loose the 1 thing that doesnt work for the PSP and keep all the other cool stuff that would work well with the system.

This is the only game that i've played on the PSP that has made me think "it really isnt good", not cause it blows, but because i expected more, unlike this one KID i know that "loves" the games for the PSP (and for some reason the developers), and oversees all the issues because he loves the games (or the developers...   kojima, eeeeuuuu, wierdo).

OH!!!!, and look at u, talking about "System wars" and what not, what the heck is that? and what does that have to do with the game and ur unatural love for the dude that made it, sick-o. Just accept it, or are you gona be all upset next time i dont agree with your taste in games? 

LOL, fanboy? look at u...     "U didint adapt to MGS for the PSP", "Kojima didint forget the...",     dude!!!!       What, about me not enjoing MGS for the PSP, is fanboy behavior? Where talking about MGS "It's the PSP version" (quote from a KID i know), and since it's for the PSP, it shouldnt be relying on PS2 game factors, like a third person camera view, its the PSP, not a PS2.

Get it trhough your fan boy head that the game has issues. Just like i like Zelda games, but i hated Wind waker, and i wasnt to impresed with Twillight princes. No KID, it's not that i didint "adapt" to the new style of the games, its that i expected more from a game that has done way better and has a tendency of out-doing it self every time its released. Same thing with MGS for the PSP, The system and the game are capable of a lot more than that. This KID i know, said that some games have lost some "stuff" in the transition from the PS2 to the PSP, why couldnt it loose the 1 thing that doesnt work for the PSP and keep all the other cool stuff that would work well with the system.

This is the only game that i've played on the PSP that has made me think "it really isnt good", not cause it blows, but because i expected more, unlike this one KID i know that "loves" the games for the PSP (and for some reason the developers), and oversees all the issues because he loves the games (or the developers...   kojima, eeeeuuuu, wierdo).

OH!!!!, and look at u, talking about "System wars" and what not, what the heck is that? and what does that have to do with the game and ur unatural love for the dude that made it, sick-o. Just accept it, or are you gona be all upset next time i dont agree with your taste in games? 

narley

Man it's so hard to debate with a fanboys who talk in their own language.

I'm not a fanboy. You see, where I can accept that the camera is a minimal issue. You can't. You insist on believing that it's an earth shattering flaw with the game that stops people from enjoying it altogether. You leave zero room for people to think otherwise. I can accept that people think its a bad game because of their tasted and preference. You can't accept that people think this is a good game unless they are a hardcore MGS fan whose "blind to flaws". We probably wouldn't even be having this conversation if you would just admit that you thinking that the camera makes this game unplayable is just what it is. Your own personal opinion, not a fact or a concensus of any kind. I don't care if you don't like the game or not. You can run around in a purple dress singing the Barney song for all I care. It's the fact that you believe your point of view is the only right point of view that's the problem here. If that's the case, do everyone a favor and use your blog.

Still trying to belittle me I see? Did you notice that 3/4 of your posts are now trying to belittle me? What happened to that fanboy logic of yours? Run out of it already? What a shame.

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LOL, fanboy? look at u...     "U didint adapt to MGS for the PSP", "Kojima didint forget the...",     dude!!!!       What, about me not enjoing MGS for the PSP, is fanboy behavior? Where talking about MGS "It's the PSP version" (quote from a KID i know), and since it's for the PSP, it shouldnt be relying on PS2 game factors, like a third person camera view, its the PSP, not a PS2.

Get it trhough your fan boy head that the game has issues. Just like i like Zelda games, but i hated Wind waker, and i wasnt to impresed with Twillight princes. No KID, it's not that i didint "adapt" to the new style of the games, its that i expected more from a game that has done way better and has a tendency of out-doing it self every time its released. Same thing with MGS for the PSP, The system and the game are capable of a lot more than that. This KID i know, said that some games have lost some "stuff" in the transition from the PS2 to the PSP, why couldnt it loose the 1 thing that doesnt work for the PSP and keep all the other cool stuff that would work well with the system.

This is the only game that i've played on the PSP that has made me think "it really isnt good", not cause it blows, but because i expected more, unlike this one KID i know that "loves" the games for the PSP (and for some reason the developers), and oversees all the issues because he loves the games (or the developers...   kojima, eeeeuuuu, wierdo).

OH!!!!, and look at u, talking about "System wars" and what not, what the heck is that? and what does that have to do with the game and ur unatural love for the dude that made it, sick-o. Just accept it, or are you gona be all upset next time i dont agree with your taste in games? 

RurouniSaiyajin

Man it's so hard to debate with a fanboys who talk in their own language.

I'm not a fanboy. You see, where I can accept that the camera is a minimal issue. You can't. You insist on believing that it's an earth shattering flaw with the game that stops people from enjoying it altogether. You leave zero room for people to think otherwise. I can accept that people think its a bad game because of their tasted and preference. You can't accept that people think this is a good game unless they are a hardcore MGS fan whose "blind to flaws". We probably wouldn't even be having this conversation if you would just admit that you thinking that the camera makes this game unplayable is just what it is. Your own personal opinion, not a fact or a concensus of any kind. I don't care if you don't like the game or not. You can run around in a purple dress singing the Barney song for all I care. It's the fact that you believe your point of view is the only right point of view that's the problem here. If that's the case, do everyone a favor and use your blog.

Still trying to belittle me I see? Did you notice that 3/4 of your posts are now trying to belittle me? What happened to that fanboy logic of yours? Run out of it already? What a shame.

Purple dresses? fanboy language? Dude ur wierder that i thought (especially the purple dress remarc, sorata makes me feel rigth about my "u and kojima" joke, eeeeuuuu). Its not that i dont leave any room for any body else to say if the game is good or bad, im saying what i think about the game, and everybody reading this posts knows that im not the only one thinking this way. A stealth-action game wich has u moving the camera every couple of seconds and before every move, or actually makes u miss spaces where u could hide, seems like a chore to me. KID, u can think any thing u want, like this game beeing good, or "purple dresses " beeing ur clothing choice (or any other wierd stuff u and that sick-o mind of ur's likes, eeeeuuuu), and if thats ur opinion, so be it.

OH!!!! and i do use my blog, and i posted something about this topic (didint mensioned any wierd-os though), and how about u do everybody a favor and u post ur wierd fetishes and strange desires in ur blog and keep'em out of children reach in this forums, LOL.

Purple dresses? fanboy language? Dude ur wierder that i thought (especially the purple dress remarc, sorata makes me feel rigth about my "u and kojima" joke, eeeeuuuu). Its not that i dont leave any room for any body else to say if the game is good or bad, im saying what i think about the game, and everybody reading this posts knows that im not the only one thinking this way. A stealth-action game wich has u moving the camera every couple of seconds and before every move, or actually makes u miss spaces where u could hide, seems like a chore to me. KID, u can think any thing u want, like this game beeing good, or "purple dresses " beeing ur clothing choice (or any other wierd stuff u and that sick-o mind of ur's likes, eeeeuuuu), and if thats ur opinion, so be it.

OH!!!! and i do use my blog, and i posted something about this topic (didint mensioned any wierd-os though), and how about u do everybody a favor and u post ur wierd fetishes and strange desires in ur blog and keep'em out of children reach in this forums, LOL.

narley

Yes. Of course. These strange fetishes and desires you keep making up in your nice little Fanboy imagination world probably because you have some hidden issues with these sort of things. Did I mention Fanboys have some insanity problems? Or maybe it's that you need to lay off the rum? That would explain all the constant laughing and the inability to articulate yourself you seem to be experiencing.

It seemed pretty clear what you thought of your opinion when you said this:

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers...narley

And I cut it off there because the paragraph is pretty incoherent as it is without the end that just adds a whole extra level of incoherence.

This quote pretty much implies if you like the game, you are a big time fanatic of the series whose opinion doesn't count because you're a fanboy. Yeah. That doesn't sound like you left any room for people to say one way or another at all like you claim you did. You negated everyone's positive opinion on the matter by calling them fanboys, which in turn implies that their opinion doesn't matter, and pretty much left nothing but your way of thinking as the only right answer.

Looks like your fanboy logic is bone dry now. You couldn't even refute the fact that you think your opinion is the only opinion adequately and are now down to 99% belittling me with your posts. In fact, even your belittling is very weak now. You are pretty much just copying what I say and trying to turn it into insults(And failing I might add). I guess that Sharingan no Itachi Avatar of yours isn't just for show.

Since you seem to be getting more drunk, insane or fanboyish as this goes on, why don't we just settle this? From now on, when you make an opinion about a game, make sure to make it obvious to everyone that it is just your opinion of the game rather than definitive fact that if everyone else doesn't agrees with, they're opinion doesn't matter. You Savvy?

[QUOTE="narley"]

Purple dresses? fanboy language? Dude ur wierder that i thought (especially the purple dress remarc, sorata makes me feel rigth about my "u and kojima" joke, eeeeuuuu). Its not that i dont leave any room for any body else to say if the game is good or bad, im saying what i think about the game, and everybody reading this posts knows that im not the only one thinking this way. A stealth-action game wich has u moving the camera every couple of seconds and before every move, or actually makes u miss spaces where u could hide, seems like a chore to me. KID, u can think any thing u want, like this game beeing good, or "purple dresses " beeing ur clothing choice (or any other wierd stuff u and that sick-o mind of ur's likes, eeeeuuuu), and if thats ur opinion, so be it.

OH!!!! and i do use my blog, and i posted something about this topic (didint mensioned any wierd-os though), and how about u do everybody a favor and u post ur wierd fetishes and strange desires in ur blog and keep'em out of children reach in this forums, LOL.

RurouniSaiyajin

Yes. Of course. These strange fetishes and desires you keep making up in your nice little Fanboy imagination world probably because you have some hidden issues with these sort of things. Did I mention Fanboys have some insanity problems? Or maybe it's that you need to lay off the rum? That would explain all the constant laughing and the inability to articulate yourself you seem to be experiencing.

It seemed pretty clear what you thought of your opinion when you said this:

Its a game wiht all the MG style, but unless ur such a big fan of the series, that u would put up with a game that feels like a chore u have to do to know the soty instead of just reading the spoilers...narley

And I cut it off there because the paragraph is pretty incoherent as it is without the end that just adds a whole extra level of incoherence.

This quote pretty much implies if you like the game, you are a big time fanatic of the series whose opinion doesn't count because you're a fanboy. Yeah. That doesn't sound like you left any room for people to say one way or another at all like you claim you did. You negated everyone's positive opinion on the matter by calling them fanboys, which in turn implies that their opinion doesn't matter, and pretty much left nothing but your way of thinking as the only right answer.

Looks like your fanboy logic is bone dry now. You couldn't even refute the fact that you think your opinion is the only opinion adequately and are now down to 99% belittling me with your posts. In fact, even your belittling is very weak now. You are pretty much just copying what I say and trying to turn it into insults(And failing I might add). I guess that Sharingan no Itachi Avatar of yours isn't just for show.

Since you seem to be getting more drunk, insane or fanboyish as this goes on, why don't we just settle this? From now on, when you make an opinion about a game, make sure to make it obvious to everyone that it is just your opinion of the game rather than definitive fact that if everyone else doesn't agrees with, they're opinion doesn't matter. You Savvy?

Dude, ur such a geek, if u read my last post it clerally says that i think the game blows, but if u, ur purple dress, ur boyfrined kojima and ur wierd desires like it, so be it. Its my opinion, and its ur decicion if u like wearring purple dresses.

But still, i cant help it laugh at the fact the i've been discucing with a geek-e dude about me beeing the close minded dude, and me, the dude who doenst like the game, beeing a fanboy, fanboy of what? LOL. Anyway, keep trying dude, im shure ur mom is verry proud of u.

Dude, ur such a geek, if u read my last post it clerally says that i think the game blows, but if u, ur purple dress, ur boyfrined kojima and ur wierd desires like it, so be it. Its my opinion, and its ur decicion if u like wearring purple dresses.

But still, i cant help it laugh at the fact the i've been discucing with a geek-e dude about me beeing the close minded dude, and me, the dude who doenst like the game, beeing a fanboy, fanboy of what? LOL. Anyway, keep trying dude, im shure ur mom is verry proud of u.

narley

So you are imagining me in a purple dress in your drunken state? Got it. You know normal people imagine hot chicks, being rich, a better life of some sorts when they are drunk. But of course, you have to be a weird drunk.

I thought that it was pretty obvious that you're a PSP Fanboy, or else you wouldn't be here. The problem with fanboys though, it doesn't matter what the prefix is in front of their name. The problem isn't that they love the prefix too much, the problem they themselves are just plain intelligently lacking and lack open mindedness, so much so to the point that they'll lash out at other gamers who like what they like as well if they don't share the exact same view on it.

PSP fanboy sounds like you. Not to mention the fact I took a glance at your blog and saw you using that fanboy logic of yours to speculate the DS is going to fail. You're a PSP fanboy all right but you don't like the fact that not everyone agrees with your view on Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. So you in turn try to discredit them by calling them all "uber" fanboys to like the game. It's classic fanboy response #2.

This conversation is over. Your fanboy logic is so tapped dry that it sounds like you didn't even finished reading my last posts or else you know by now I don't care what your opinion is, so long as you recognize it as that, nothing but your opinion and make sure people know that when you state it. There's no point in continuing this conversation. You are pretty much just content with saying the same thing over and over like a parrot, unable to converse in a real conversion, just repeat the same thing mindlessly.

Oh and do yourself a favor. If you want someone to actually believe you aren't a fanboy, start using the spell check button.

[QUOTE="narley"]

Dude, ur such a geek, if u read my last post it clerally says that i think the game blows, but if u, ur purple dress, ur boyfrined kojima and ur wierd desires like it, so be it. Its my opinion, and its ur decicion if u like wearring purple dresses.

But still, i cant help it laugh at the fact the i've been discucing with a geek-e dude about me beeing the close minded dude, and me, the dude who doenst like the game, beeing a fanboy, fanboy of what? LOL. Anyway, keep trying dude, im shure ur mom is verry proud of u.

RurouniSaiyajin

So you are imagining me in a purple dress in your drunken state? Got it. You know normal people imagine hot chicks, being rich, a better life of some sorts when they are drunk. But of course, you have to be a weird drunk.

I thought that it was pretty obvious that you're a PSP Fanboy, or else you wouldn't be here. The problem with fanboys though, it doesn't matter what the prefix is in front of their name. The problem isn't that they love the prefix too much, the problem they themselves are just plain intelligently lacking and lack open mindedness, so much so to the point that they'll lash out at other gamers who like what they like as well if they don't share the exact same view on it.

PSP fanboy sounds like you. Not to mention the fact I took a glance at your blog and saw you using that fanboy logic of yours to speculate the DS is going to fail. You're a PSP fanboy all right but you don't like the fact that not everyone agrees with your view on Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. So you in turn try to discredit them by calling them all "uber" fanboys to like the game. It's classic fanboy response #2.

This conversation is over. Your fanboy logic is so tapped dry that it sounds like you didn't even finished reading my last posts or else you know by now I don't care what your opinion is, so long as you recognize it as that, nothing but your opinion and make sure people know that when you state it. There's no point in continuing this conversation. You are pretty much just content with saying the same thing over and over like a parrot, unable to converse in a real conversion, just repeat the same thing mindlessly.

Oh and do yourself a favor. If you want someone to actually believe you aren't a fanboy, start using the spell check button.

LOL, ok dude, dont get ur pocket protector all wrinkled cuase ur all worked up about my "fanboy logic" and my spelling. Geek-e dudes like u should stay in ur basement's trying to fight people over the internet. Keep making ur mom proud.

LOL

And now you aren't even bothering to defend yourself. You are just trying to belittle me now while still talking like a parrot, repeating the same insults mindlessly. Guess I hit another nerve on my closing note.

MPO, i never played killzone other then demo and i think its pretty lame nothin like the console one so it sucks.