Sony: Copying others 'the worst thing we could do'

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#1 Settawuth
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Made a line in the sand

After Microsoft claimed that the introduction of Xbox Live avatars was a much fresher approach than the competition, Sony said Wednesday that Home is on track and trying to copy others is not its plan for the PlayStation 3.
"I don't know enough about Microsoft's avatars. I think we're going in a bit of a different direction with Home. We made a line in the sand and made a strategic decision on Home and that's where we're going," said SCEA president Jack Tretton.

"My understanding is that it's a more simplified vision. That may be enough for some and not enough for others. We are who we are. You have to be who you are. You can't backpedal down a road if it doesn't appear it's going to plan. You have to be aware of what's not resounding with people."

"We've got a plan for PS3. I think the worst thing we could do is look at the competition and try and do what they're doing," he said.

http://gamerush.zoomshare.com/files/news/002613_Sony_Copying_others_the_worst_thing_we_could_do_.htm

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#2 LtColJaxson
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Yep, good article. Thanks for posting it.
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#3 Krigon
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Like a small punch at microsoft, though sony kinda copied xbl (even though Sony had this idea during the ps2 days).

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#4 baller72
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Like a small punch at microsoft, though sony kinda copied xbl (even though Sony had this idea during the ps2 days).

Krigon

I dont think you can say they copied xbox live really cause online gaming is something xbox made popular but it has been around since the supernintendo days... do yall remember Xband anyone? Also it was the next step in console gaming I mean look at Pc games and how they were.

if sony copied anything from xbox it would be the whole trophy idea

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#5 baller72
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correction you can SAY it but I do not share your opinion...
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#6 davez82
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meh, without coying we wouldnt have the dual shock, i call this bs.
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#7 lawler09
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quite hypocritical cause like the guy said above me, sony copied the achievement/trophy idea from ms.

but if were all honest. everyone copies everyone these days!

avatars and the like have been around years, long before ps3, 360 and wii.

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#8 feryl06
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Why can't they just keep their mouths shut? He knows he's lying out of his arse. Business copy ideas all the time, it's a long time practice. For him to say such things is ludicrous and arrogant.
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#9 SSJBen
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This came from the company who copied motion sensors and call rumble is pass technology.......... :roll:

Yea Nintendo copied MS originally on motion sensors also.

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#10 Krigon
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[QUOTE="Krigon"]

Like a small punch at microsoft, though sony kinda copied xbl (even though Sony had this idea during the ps2 days).

baller72

I dont think you can say they copied xbox live really cause online gaming is something xbox made popular but it has been around since the supernintendo days... do yall remember Xband anyone? Also it was the next step in console gaming I mean look at Pc games and how they were.

if sony copied anything from xbox it would be the whole trophy idea

indeed at the end everybody copies everybody.

Jack Tretton is such full of it.

Phil Harrison why did you leave/get fired , his bs was so much easier to digest :P

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I agree. Copying is usually a lame game. I have the bowling game from the Playstation Store and I wish it weren't motion control. I hate that Sony put motion control in their controllers.
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quite hypocritical cause like the guy said above me, sony copied the achievement/trophy idea from ms.

but if were all honest. everyone copies everyone these days!

avatars and the like have been around years, long before ps3, 360 and wii.

lawler09

you cam't say that because there has all ways been a score of some sort in games. the arcade had your name and your score next. so people tried to be no. 1 way back when.

we also as gamers ask for them so sony said ok we can't have pionts like xbox live so lets make it differant and have trophys like olypics. copper silver and gold ect.

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#13 Krigon
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[QUOTE="lawler09"]

quite hypocritical cause like the guy said above me, sony copied the achievement/trophy idea from ms.

but if were all honest. everyone copies everyone these days!

avatars and the like have been around years, long before ps3, 360 and wii.

GARRYTH

you cam't say that because there has all ways been a score of some sort in games. the arcade had your name and your score next. so people tried to be no. 1 way back when.

we also as gamers ask for them so sony said ok we can't have pionts like xbox live so lets make it differant and have trophys like olypics. bronze, silver and gold ect.

fixed copper to bronze.

Even though we asked for it, they still copied. Yes gamerpoints existed way long before microsoft unified it, but that's what sony is copying the unification of achievements/gamerpoints/Trophies/entitlements/whateveryouwannacallitpointgivingsystem.

I'm not saying it is bad. You gotta look at your competition once in a while to see if they are doing something that your company can take and improve.

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#14 Generic_Dude
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Yeah, because copying the competition -- who has 10 times the sales Sony does -- would be foolish, right? :roll:

And it's not like achievements -- I mean trophies -- and Miis -- I mean Home avatars -- and Wiimote functionality -- I mean Sixaxis functionality -- are copying, right? :roll: x 2

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#15 j-bldes
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quite hypocritical cause like the guy said above me, sony copied the achievement/trophy idea from ms.

but if were all honest. everyone copies everyone these days!

avatars and the like have been around years, long before ps3, 360 and wii.

lawler09

Well Sony announced home, MS announced Avatars. Sony announced being able to put trophies in your "home". Where do you think the trophies will come from? It's not copying, it's marketing. People want these features and Sony is just supplying the demand. MS saw the hype over Mii's and HOME and what did they do? Hell, they even changed their GUI. So it's not hypocritical for someone to release a similar idea. But how can people complain about the DS controllers? One of the best controllers I have ever used, and it predicessors have won several awards for best controller. Why change the controller when it was everyones favorite? If Sony didn't "Copy" the DS controller(from who?) they wouldn't have a great controller. Don't blame them for improving it lol.

And idn't MS getting motion conrollers? Now thats a rip isn't it? lol.

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its a punch at MS all right, Jack Tretton metnioned MS Buying everything, that was a punch, and they threw another one at MS at E3 ( when Jack said Exclusive content is nice, and exclusive games are better. ) I respect Sony for actually saying this, but somethings they have done are questionable. ( Life with PlayStation sounds cool.. But it also sounds like the news and whether channels from the Wii )
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We need them to copy all the good things from Microsoft, the 360, XBL, and Nintendo, etc. I don't want a motion sensing controller though.
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Trophies... totally not based on ANYTHING amirite?

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[QUOTE="baller72"][QUOTE="Krigon"]

Like a small punch at microsoft, though sony kinda copied xbl (even though Sony had this idea during the ps2 days).

Krigon

I dont think you can say they copied xbox live really cause online gaming is something xbox made popular but it has been around since the supernintendo days... do yall remember Xband anyone? Also it was the next step in console gaming I mean look at Pc games and how they were.

if sony copied anything from xbox it would be the whole trophy idea

indeed at the end everybody copies everybody.

Jack Tretton is such full of it.

Phil Harrison why did you leave/get fired , his bs was so much easier to digest :P

Truth.
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Trophies... totally not based on ANYTHING amirite?

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I agree. Copying is usually a lame game. I have the bowling game from the Playstation Store and I wish it weren't motion control. I hate that Sony put motion control in their controllers. patriots7672

what? the bowling game is awesome, twice as good as the wii's bowling game. do you really think that game would have been better without motion controls?

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#22 MechVulcan
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Eh, who cares about avatars everyone I know hates them anyway. and although I have the PS3 and like it best, come on we know it ripped off miis and not really the home. Honestly.
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#23 MechVulcan
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meh, without coying we wouldnt have the dual shock, i call this bs.davez82

I think you mean SixAxis.

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#24 SocaWarrior
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Doing research for school, I am finding out that now idea is original anymore, and that copying other people is inevitable.
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#25 JudgementEden
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Why can't they just keep their mouths shut? He knows he's lying out of his arse. Business copy ideas all the time, it's a long time practice. For him to say such things is ludicrous and arrogant. feryl06

Are you angry over this? If you are you need to cool down.

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#26 JudgementEden
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I agree. Copying is usually a lame game. I have the bowling game from the Playstation Store and I wish it weren't motion control. I hate that Sony put motion control in their controllers. patriots7672

You had to have known High Velocity Bowling used only motion. If you knew, and you hate it, why the hell did you get it?

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#27 jai_shailer
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Looks like Sony thrashing out to Microsoft over it copying the Mii-like avatars.

Honestly, though it's as bad as stealing others ideas what MS are doing lately.

DISGRACEFUL, MICROSOFT, DISGRACEFUL!!!

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#28 FlashCharge
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Good Point and hope that Sony continues to be innovative in it's Home vision.
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#29 franky_babylon
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Sonys just mad that MS beat them to releasing Home everyone copies that called business if nobody did this we wouldn't have a lot of the things we have today. MS copied Home,Sony copied motion control and Live features and that game MAG look up MS Huxley,in game XMB,Trophies and Nintendo copied voice chat from both MS and Sony they cant do much else. These are just a few I dont care who copies who as long as we get to enjoy them
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#30 baller72
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I am sorry 360 fans but that whole thing the 360 is doing is a direct copy of code from wii.

I mean usually they try to change it up a bit but Microsoft was like forget that we are going to do the exact same thing.

Did yall hear G4 talk to the president of microsoft about the new look. The G4 people said well mr. president it seems that your whole e3 presentation was responses to what your competitors are doing. yall really didnt bring anything new to the table.

And the president of microsoft said well it is not like that we are just making things better... his face was so red.... and the G4 people knew that they made them feel bad so they backtracked and said " but dont get us wrong that whole xbox live thing started a trend too."

I was laughing so hard after that.... am I the only one that caught that.

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#31 deactivated-5bbebc0a7198f
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It's not necessarily a bad thing that companies are taking ideas from each other. I mean a good idea is a good idea, and if nobody followed suit and adopted ideas from others and applied their own take on them like this we'd get nowhere. I mean think about it, the first game that allowed online play, should other companies have just said "Well...they did that, guess we have to think of something else."? Of course not, I agree there's a fine line between adopting ideas with your own perspective on them and simply ripping an idea off, but as long as it promotes development and stimulation in the industry go for it.
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#32 angel_0214
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hahahhahah i remember that he got ot stock nad stared talking about live...............some times is good cuz is just making ur consoles better.......... and its not the xbox is just the way ms works http://youtube.com/watch?v=JKuYQwm1yNs