Sony PS3 not really FULLHD

or tv

PSN: jamsk8er

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

not all PS3 games are 1080p. Some are, some are not. All DLC is, and a bunch of retail games.

Drake's Fortune plays in 1080i max, by the way.

Games these days do not look better on either console. That was not true in the past.

not all PS3 games are 1080p. Some are, some are not. All DLC is, and a bunch of retail games.

Drake's Fortune plays in 1080i max, by the way.

Games these days do not look better on either console. That was not true in the past.

osirisomeomi

1080i is basically the samething as saying 720p fyi

You won't see many games run at full 1080p for performance issues. To many things would need to be cut back in the overall graphics to reach that resolution, or a lot more money spent for optimizing. So you could end up with a 1080p that looks worse that a 720p game. And just imagine if a game like Turning Point and Turok, that already have bad framerate were changed to 1080p, the fps would take a nose dive and be unplayable, and cutting the graphics back to get it smooth again would make it look horrible. Even a game like Halo 3 is actually 640p on the 360.

So the sweet spot is 720p right now for these consoles. And the only benifit for 1080p games might be smoother edges. The textures are usually not high res enough in all places to make it look better in 1080p half the time to be worth it.

Just give your tv 720p, and the tv itself will upconvert it to 1080p. Sure, it might not be as good as an external box upscaling like the 360, but you are talking like a 5% or less difference unless you have a really bad tv.

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

Dipufresh

I tried this. The only games I own that it worked with was R&C and Warhawk. The others were downscaled to 576p. Unchecking 576p isn't possible. I unchecked 720p and 1080i.

Oh, and for the guy who said 360 doesn't play all games in 1080p, that isn't true. 360 upscales all games to 1080p. If your 360 is set to 1080p that's what you get. Ps3 should be the same.

[QUOTE="Dipufresh"]

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

x-2tha-z

I tried this. The only games I own that it worked with was R&C and Warhawk. The others were downscaled to 576p. Unchecking 576p isn't possible. I unchecked 720p and 1080i.

Oh, and for the guy who said 360 doesn't play all games in 1080p, that isn't true. 360 upscales all games to 1080p. If your 360 is set to 1080p that's what you get. Ps3 should be the same.

I realize that rendering in 1080P is a hard task on any system, computer or consoles. A current project of mine is to run Crysis in Very High Settings @ 1080P but they have not made parts to do that yet, wait until Nvidia comes out with their 8800 successor. But the being able to display on a monitors/TV native in its native resolution benefits image quality. The XBOX360 has a, beautiful, compositing chip to upscale/downscale the images it renders. The PS3 has no chip, but my misconception is that it could at least upscale images to 1080P. Given the choice in getting DMC4 or Burnout is made easy, I'll go XBOX. Sorry PS3.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Dipufresh"]

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

CosmoKing7717

I tried this. The only games I own that it worked with was R&C and Warhawk. The others were downscaled to 576p. Unchecking 576p isn't possible. I unchecked 720p and 1080i.

Oh, and for the guy who said 360 doesn't play all games in 1080p, that isn't true. 360 upscales all games to 1080p. If your 360 is set to 1080p that's what you get. Ps3 should be the same.

Dude....I didn't say it was. I'd rather have upscaled 1080p than no 1080p.

Games are gonna be 720p native for a long time. If I have the option to upscale to 1080p I can play a game at that resolution and decide if I think the upscale looks better than 720p. It's all about choice. We should be allowed to choose. I didn't buy an expensive 1080p HDTV to play games at 720p.

The fact Sony made such a big deal about PS3 games being 1080p makes this even more annoying.

i have a samsung syncmaster 245bw it runs my 360 games at 1080p upscaled and my ps3 at 1080i,my problem is with my ps3 games taht down scale cut the sides cut off a bit.it sucks i dont know how to fix it!i tried turning of 720p all that does is downscale it to 420p(burnout)onyone know how i can fix this?my monitor wont let me adjust hdmi to dvi picture settings(only colour).HELP am i out of luck?SHOEGOO

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Dipufresh"]

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

x-2tha-z

I tried this. The only games I own that it worked with was R&C and Warhawk. The others were downscaled to 576p. Unchecking 576p isn't possible. I unchecked 720p and 1080i.

Oh, and for the guy who said 360 doesn't play all games in 1080p, that isn't true. 360 upscales all games to 1080p. If your 360 is set to 1080p that's what you get. Ps3 should be the same.

Dude....I didn't say it was. I'd rather have upscaled 1080p than no 1080p.

Games are gonna be 720p native for a long time. If I have the option to upscale to 1080p I can play a game at that resolution and decide if I think the upscale looks better than 720p. It's all about choice. We should be allowed to choose. I didn't buy an expensive 1080p HDTV to play games at 720p.

The fact Sony made such a big deal about PS3 games being 1080p makes this even more annoying.

Technically, your 1080p is upscaling anything under 1080p, to 1080p, otherwise it wouldn't fill the screen. Sure, it might not be as good as certain external upscalers, but for games, there's not much for a high quality upscaler to enhance like they do with mpeg video that suffers from things like compression.

This has been an issue since the PS3 came out. Your complaining may fall on even more deaf ears. As nothing was done for gamers that bought the PS3 and couldn't even play at any HD resolution. Many had or still have 1080i tvs that don't accept 720p, so all the games that are 720p only are forced to run at 480p since the PS3 can't convert it to 1080i.

So Sony is not going to do anything, That's why some games have built in upscalers for 1080p. Rainbow Six was the first to offer that feature, and did 1080p pretty good, but had a serious problem with the 1080i output option, making it look horrible.

I Know about your problem way too much. I am a PC gamer at heart but lately the consoles have swayed me becaue of the theater aspect, siting on my couch is is better than hunched over a KB. Don't get me wrong I got crysis running on my new 42 1080P, its at 720 resolution, need a 4k dollar PC to run 1080P at very high.

But that was a tangent, Regular PC monitors have a tough time displaying 1080P, reasoning is that most are not 16:9 but 16:10. Very rarely you'll find a PC monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio under 30'. Look up PC resolution in wikipidia, a normal resolution for a Monitor that size is 1920x1200, and up from there to the dual link DVI 2400x1600 resolutions for monitors like dell's 30' monster or a apple cinema displays. Since 1080 is weird for a pc usually you'll get a slightly taller image or if you monitor has 1:1 pixel option(look up 1:1 Pixel in google) you have black bars top and bottom. For 720, a noticeably a step down image quality from the native resolution of a 24'PC monitor, you have much of the same problems. You might get taller images, bars on the top and bottom, or edges cut off. No way to fix this sorry. For the prices out now for full HD tv set, essentially monitors with 1920x1080 resolutions, I'ld think about grabbing me one.

I Know about your problem way too much. I am a PC gamer at heart but lately the consoles have swayed me becaue of the theater aspect, siting on my couch is is better than hunched over a KB. Don't get me wrong I got crysis running on my new 42 1080P, its at 720 resolution, need a 4k dollar PC to run 1080P at very high.

But that was a tangent, Regular PC monitors have a tough time displaying 1080P, reasoning is that most are not 16:9 but 16:10. Very rarely you'll find a PC monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio under 30'. Look up PC resolution in wikipidia, a normal resolution for a Monitor that size is 1920x1200, and up from there to the dual link DVI 2400x1600 resolutions for monitors like dell's 30' monster or a apple cinema displays. Since 1080 is weird for a pc usually you'll get a slightly taller image or if you monitor has 1:1 pixel option(look up 1:1 Pixel in google) you have black bars top and bottom. For 720, a noticeably a step down image quality from the native resolution of a 24'PC monitor, you have much of the same problems. You might get taller images, bars on the top and bottom, or edges cut off. No way to fix this sorry. For the prices out now for full HD tv set, essentially monitors with 1920x1080 resolutions, I'ld think about grabbing me one.

Dvaquero1916

This thread is bullocks.

Obviously, the TV already scales thee resolution internally, or there would be black bars surrounding the image. That is why old HDTVs cannot display 720P, only 1080 as it does not scale images to occupy the whole screen. ALL TVs made in recent years have an internal scaler.

The only difference is that the xbox 360 scales it for you so the TV doesn't need to do it again, which is why the output is detected as 1080p. The PS3 outputs the 720p image but the TV scales it for you anyway to fill the image on the screen. Whatever visual difference you observe is psychological, and comes from a misunderstanding ofhow the technology works.

I just got a 1080P set,a Philips 42PFL7422D/37 non ablilight version. BlueRay plays in 1080P, so does Drakes Fortune and I expected that the PS3 would do 1080P on all games.
Reason I am interested is because when I downloaded the DMC4 demo over the PS network and ran the game, I noticed it was not running on 1080P. Went through some of my other games on demos and found that Burnout Paradise also runs in 720p. The demos, DMC4 and Burnout Paradise, on Xbox360 run in 1080p(upscaled). 1080P looks better in either Native or Upscaled by the XBOX no matter what anyone tells you.
I have owned the PS3 for almost a year and just started to play games on it. Used PS3 to play some BlueRay Movies mostly until good games started to come out. Is this a common problem with the PS3? I never had any resolution issues on the XBOX360.
Is this just me or do I have a TV problem?Dvaquero1916

I uncheck all resolutions except 1080p and 480p(it's grayed outso I can't touch it). All my Ps3 games play in 1080p, but I don't know if my tv is doing the upscaling or if the Ps3 is. DMC4 did play in 480p until I checked 720p again.

This thread is bullocks.

Obviously, the TV already scales thee resolution internally, or there would be black bars surrounding the image. That is why old HDTVs cannot display 720P, only 1080 as it does not scale images to occupy the whole screen. ALL TVs made in recent years have an internal scaler.

The only difference is that the xbox 360 scales it for you so the TV doesn't need to do it again, which is why the output is detected as 1080p. The PS3 outputs the 720p image but the TV scales it for you anyway to fill the image on the screen. Whatever visual difference you observe is psychological, and comes from a misunderstanding ofhow the technology works.

bobbytkc

so the ps3 wont upscale and adjust the screen from a 720p game to 1080i,and my 360 does?are the gong to fix this?SHOEGOO

It upscales a select few games to 1080p (and an even smaller number are native 1080p). I'm running Uncharted at 1080p right now. 360 scales most games to 1080p =/

I love these topics, they are a dime a dozen nowadays

Most of the time playing a game that only supports 720p on 1080p will either make it look a little worse(washed out) or no change at all. BTW you want to play your games on 720p not 1080i.

all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.hckeystar3

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

[QUOTE="hckeystar3"]all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.Udsen

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

I'm running uncharted at 1080p.

This thread is bullocks.

Obviously, the TV already scales thee resolution internally, or there would be black bars surrounding the image. That is why old HDTVs cannot display 720P, only 1080 as it does not scale images to occupy the whole screen. ALL TVs made in recent years have an internal scaler.

The only difference is that the xbox 360 scales it for you so the TV doesn't need to do it again, which is why the output is detected as 1080p. The PS3 outputs the 720p image but the TV scales it for you anyway to fill the image on the screen. Whatever visual difference you observe is psychological, and comes from a misunderstanding ofhow the technology works.

bobbytkc

A hard streach, which the panel does, does not equal to the internal upscaling that the Xbox360 creates.

Not all PS3 games are full HD because it is the game developers' decision to make it full HD or not.

If fullHD is a concern for you, you should always check the back of a game's plastic case, it will tell you which resolutions the game can be displayed at. 8)

Most games are NOT in 1080p natively. Drakes Fortune is in 720p, did you even play it? Smells a little like flamebait.

Which are these 360 games you say play in 1080p? Certainly not Halo 3.

Force your TV into 1080p if you think it looks better upscaled; I don't.

[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]

not all PS3 games are 1080p. Some are, some are not. All DLC is, and a bunch of retail games.

Drake's Fortune plays in 1080i max, by the way.

Games these days do not look better on either console. That was not true in the past.

brad5553

1080i is basically the samething as saying 720p fyi

Not even close, fyi.

1080i = interlaced

1080p = progressive

Interlaced means you have one line of resolution on top of another one going in opposite directions. Progressive means you have one line going in each direction, one behind another.

Interlaced is kind of crap, keep it away from me, especially in games.

[QUOTE="hckeystar3"]all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.Udsen

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="hckeystar3"]all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.Staryoshi87

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

I'm running uncharted at 1080p.

You're upscaling. It doesn't mean the game "runs" at 1080p anymore than an SDDVD suddenly becomes 1080i because you're upscaling it. So, no.

[QUOTE="bobbytkc"]

This thread is bullocks.

Obviously, the TV already scales thee resolution internally, or there would be black bars surrounding the image. That is why old HDTVs cannot display 720P, only 1080 as it does not scale images to occupy the whole screen. ALL TVs made in recent years have an internal scaler.

The only difference is that the xbox 360 scales it for you so the TV doesn't need to do it again, which is why the output is detected as 1080p. The PS3 outputs the 720p image but the TV scales it for you anyway to fill the image on the screen. Whatever visual difference you observe is psychological, and comes from a misunderstanding ofhow the technology works.

Dvaquero1916

A hard streach, which the panel does, does not equal to the internal upscaling that the Xbox360 creates.

More flamebait. Upscaling on my PS3 for both DVDs and games works just fine, I haven't noticed any of these issues.

[QUOTE="Dipufresh"]

what you coud do is goto your ps3 display settings and goto the hdmi and customly check only 1080p and leave the otehr unchecked

thsi will allow u to upscale your games to 1080p

have fun =)

x-2tha-z

I tried this. The only games I own that it worked with was R&C and Warhawk. The others were downscaled to 576p. Unchecking 576p isn't possible. I unchecked 720p and 1080i.

Oh, and for the guy who said 360 doesn't play all games in 1080p, that isn't true. 360 upscales all games to 1080p. If your 360 is set to 1080p that's what you get. Ps3 should be the same.

[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

[QUOTE="hckeystar3"]all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.excelR83

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

I'm running uncharted at 1080p.

You're upscaling. It doesn't mean the game "runs" at 1080p anymore than an SDDVD suddenly becomes 1080i because you're upscaling it. So, no.

I know what upscaling is, don't patronize me. When I say "running it at x" I mean that's the setting that the PS3 is using and displaying. I never said I was running it at native 1080p. I'll take upscaled 1080p over native 720p every time. There is a noticable improvement in picture quality when ran at 1080p for me. Less jaggies being the primary benefit.

u can make the ps3 upscale all games to 1080p but a games native reolution is 720p the console automatically goes to 720p, if u dont like it in 720 just tick the 1080p box in display settings and nothing elseluke-9493

That doesn't work with all games :(

If I understand it right...

1. 360 has an internal upscaling mode, regardless of whether or not the game is natively developed for the 1080 resolution

and

2. PS3 has no such mode, so it entirely depends on the developers to give their games the option to run at 1080 resolution

If that's all, just play the current games at 720 and wait for more games that are developed to run at 1080. And for everything else, you can still use full HD.

The PS3 would probably have cost even more if Sony had built in an upscaling mode, anyway.

Nice avatar.

Tell the other trolls I say... Zugzug

u can make the ps3 upscale all games to 1080p but a games native reolution is 720p the console automatically goes to 720p, if u dont like it in 720 just tick the 1080p box in display settings and nothing elseluke-9493

This doesn't work for most PS3 games. I thought maybe the new games would start using the upscaler option the way Ratchet, Warhawk, Uncharted and all those November titles did, but recent titles like Burnout and Unreal Tournament 3 convince me otherwise. ALL tv's upscale in some form or fashion otherwise it wouldn't fill the screen, this problem really only affects people with the older 1080i only crt sets.

Drake's Fortune is 720P native.

And PS3 is indeed full HD because there are games that run in NATIVE 1080P, not some upscaled crap.

It's a problem with your PS3, you have to change the settings of your PS3 to force it to upscale games into 1080p (if they are capable of it) BUT be aware the framerate will often take a severe hit often from 60 to 30 fps.