The Order: 1886 Impression Thread

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#1  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Well folks, we are just one week away [U.S time of this thread] for The Order: 1886 and what a great way to kick things started for a PS4 exclusive for 2015. While I'm not hype for Order 1886 but I did pre-order it because it's a new IP from Sony and I have did a lot of research getting enough data just for me to pre-order and I'm trusting my guts that this game will deliver. That said, are you picking this up?

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#2 raugutcon
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Picked the CE edition seven months ago.

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#3  Edited By polishkid99
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I am, not on release though. I wish it had online muliplayer. That tesla gun in pvp would be a joy.

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#4  Edited By MarcRecon
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I'm not super hyped but I am looking forward to it. I will be picking it up on day1, I'm not waiting on reviews because I've done enough of my own research.

As I've said before, The Order 1886 won't be anything revolutionary but it will be a solid addition to the shooter platform.

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#5 Flubbbs
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preordered the collectors edition a few months ago.. excited to play the game.. to be honest, Im not expecting some kind of revolutionary gameplay because pretty much everything has already been done in the genre, just give me a solid story with good characters and i will be happy.

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I will be buying it when it comes out. I Just really hope it doesn't flop

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#7 MarcRecon
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@marcheegsr said:

I will be buying it when it comes out. I Just really hope it doesn't flop

Early last year I was a little skeptical, but there have been steady improvements in the gameplay! I feel a lot more confident about The Order now then what I did lastyear.

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#8 Alexander2cents
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Reminds me of this

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#9 mahusayx
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hope it turns out great, but im done relying on hype and pretty trailers. i'll wait a week or two after release then decide if it's worth getting.

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#10 BattleSpectre
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Very excited for it.

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#11  Edited By Ribstaylor1
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Looks okay. But nothing that is mind blowing. Will see how the reviews rate the stor, but so far meh.

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Looks absolutely stunning and only the hate going around is just because it doesn't do anything new but I don't care as long as the gameplay is solid and the story is deep and rich enough I'm more than happy nothing.as of yet this gen has grasped me story wise as of yet this gen, some very good games but not much on the story side, cannot wait

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#13 PSN_M1NAT3K
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As others have stated, the graphics are insanely stunning. I'm looking forward to it as well.

I'm on the fence about what I would be happy with in terms of length. I think if it keeps me entertained as long as The Last of Us did, I would be happy with that.

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#14  Edited By MarcRecon
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@bezza2011:

I think the hate has more to do with it being an exclusive.

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@psn_m1nat3k said:

As others have stated, the graphics are insanely stunning. I'm looking forward to it as well.

I'm on the fence about what I would be happy with in terms of length. I think if it keeps me entertained as long as The Last of Us did, I would be happy with that.

From what I heard, The length is 10 hours, at least. No word on any replay value unless your going for a Platinum Trophy.

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@bezza2011:

I think the hate has more to do with it being an exclusive.

Not really because it's exclusive, the hate mainly is coming due to the fact that Sony hasn't shown anything to little gameplay, Doesn't really revolutionize anyway, no MP any means but as of bezza2011 said, as long as it's fun, that's all that matters in the end. To me, I couldn't careless what the haters say, I for one am buying this day one just because The Order: 1886 is the first major AAA PlayStation 4 exclusive to be release of 2015.

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If that's the case, I think they have showed more then enough gameplay since last year, I think what some people might have issues with is a variety of gameplay. @davillain-

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#17 coasterguy65
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The game looks interesting, and I like the setting. I have it pre-ordered, but I think I am going to rent it, and try it out before opening my copy just in case. I have been hearing a lot of negatives about the game. I really want it to turn out to be fun, but I am really cautious about it.

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#18  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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I remember the E3 that this game was announced. It started with a translated quote from the Morte D'arthur. I'm a sucker for Arthurian tales having read Malory's Morte Dathur from cover to cover and written essays on Sir Gawain and the Green Knight in relation to it. I was super excited before they started showing footage and talking about the game.It sounds like it's just a run of the mill cinematic third person shooter that favors cut scenes and QTEs even more than crap like Uncharted 2 did.

At this point I expect nothing more than a disaster of a game from The Order 1886.

I'm skipping this game in favor of Bloodborne and Batman Arkham Knight later down the line.

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#19  Edited By PimpHand_Gamer
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Looks like it might as well be a FMV game judging by how much freedom you have.

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@bezza2011:

This is the problem the gameplay is very suspect based on all the reviews I read and podcast and YouTube reviews. I have done my homework as you can see. I can't get on ign and not sure if banned from forum or my server from work is keeping me off.

I will buy it today just to support first party games for ps4. The worse case scenario is trading it in at best buy for $40 after a week of playing it twice. RAD made a big mistake not making it co op or MP online. The cinematics interrupt gameplay from a lot of complaints. I know I will probably feel it's a 7/10 but I hope a sequel comes. I don't want AAA games to become extinct with all these bad reviews because gamers want more than just watching a game vs playing it. I liove graphics and since the order is considered the best looking current gen game I need to see it in my new 4k tv. I love graphics but never over gameplay. It should be a perfect blend and naughty dog would never sacrifice gameplay over looking the best which I think RAD did with the order.

Then I read this kiirby game getting good reviews and it drives me crazy with kiddy games always getting good reviews. I think if the order had the same single player experience but MP or co op offline was added replay and length of game would have never been a issue. The weaknesses of the single player wouldn't have stood out as much and a sequel would be a definite. I have a feeling despite the horrible reviews people will buy it anyway due to the slow time of no exclusives for sony and wanting to support AAA titles and the marvel over the presentation.

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if we are to look at the big picture, the order is hovering at 65% on metacritic which means the reviews are utterly mixed. the game is not outright awful, but it is not great either. it is certainly not worth paying the full $60 for in my opinion, that much is certain. i would wait until it hits the $30 mark.

for those who enjoyed heavy rain and beyond: two souls, i think this game will fit the bill just fine. if anything, it looks as though the order was designed for such people in mind. that brings me to a question which has been a concern of mine for a while now: why didn’t sony market the order as a “david cage style” game rather than a cover based shooter from the very beginning? in other words, they should have marketed it as an adventure style game so that people wouldn’t make false assumptions as to what type of experience they were getting.

as it stands now, the biggest thing working against the order are the false expectations it created within the gaming community. that doesn’t mean the game is bad, it just means it is tailored towards a particular type of experience that not everyone will enjoy. not every game NEEDS to be for everyone, however. the developers wanted to give us a cinematic experience and they delivered just that. there is a big market for this genre of gaming even if it isn’t the most “popular” amongst the closed minded individuals who only understand games in the traditional sense. we get more than enough generic shooters, thanks… I would take this game over another shclocky shooter any day.

sony should be congratulated for taking the risk in trying something different in an otherwise stagnant AAA space, even if they didn’t quite pull it off flawlessly. even though the game could have turned out better, the order has the potential to be a very promising franchise in the future. fix the pacing issues, give the player more things to interact with during the linear sections and most importantly, include more gameplay. the foundation is very strong with this game, it just needs to balance the formula a little bit.

in addition to the great storytelling and voice acting, at the order has one major thing going for it that cannot be denied…. it looks incredible in every way. at least the game competently demonstrates what the ps4 can do graphically. i have yet to see any game that has produced such beautiful environments and paid so much attention to the details. the character models and overall production is first class. don’t let the unjust hate dampen your spirits, guys. this game is worth at least a 7. gamespot and a few other outlets did a fantastic job in going along with the overly negative perception of the game. it must have paid off because people took the bait. the 5000+ comments on there will help pay the bills :)

this game is what it is. it may not have lived up to the hype we had all hoped for, but i am certain a great deal of enjoyment can be had. enjoy!

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@Xristophoros:

I suspect the reason it looks so good is because there is a lot less to interact with and so extremely linear. Well david cage has a bad reputation after beyond 2 souls IMO. I loved Heavy rain and you cant compare heavy rain to The order. Heavy rain was probably 8-10 hrs but there were so many branching storylines that made you want to replay the game over and over again. I do hope The Order sells well but the gameplay must be way more creative than what I am hearing. I want the game NOW because I am tired of playing the remasters etc. I want a shiny new game that displays my 4ktv and my 1yr old ps4. I have no problem trading in a game for $40. I already have $40 in credit at gamestop and so I am only spending $20 to pay it off. If I had to fork over the full price I would wait for a major price drop. Its a shame RAD felt a compelling story doesn't also deserve great ENGAGING and updated gameplay.

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@ewalthour: @Xristophoros: Well to me, I rent The Order: 1886 just to see what was the problem ever since the 5 hour meltdown. I played about 3 hours last night, I can understand were hate is coming from but I'm enjoying it . The story and characters are good and the shooting sections are well done but it can feel like Wack-A-Mole. For all the talk about the length, people have over looked the fact this game actually does everything else quite well but the price was the biggest issue, $60 is waaay to much for what The Order: 1886 is offering back to gamers for there money. Only problem is, I thought there would be more werewolves, not Humans which I thought this game was supposed to be. Looking at the buildings, architecture, little era stuff, and clothes are so precise and authentic. But after a while, it gets boring. The collectibles and little audiology prove nothing or add nothing to the lore. They are just there for flavor text.

Bottem-line: I truly recommend just renting this game since it really isn't that long and I can tell you know that there is no replay value and wait till it hits $40 or below cause $60 is just too much right now.

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#24  Edited By Xristophoros
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@davillain- said:

@ewalthour: @Xristophoros: Well to me, I rent The Order: 1886 just to see what was the problem ever since the 5 hour meltdown. I played about 3 hours last night, I can understand were hate is coming from but I'm enjoying it . The story and characters are good and the shooting sections are well done but it can feel like Wack-A-Mole. For all the talk about the length, people have over looked the fact this game actually does everything else quite well but the price was the biggest issue, $60 is waaay to much for what The Order: 1886 is offering back to gamers for there money. Only problem is, I thought there would be more werewolves, not Humans which I thought this game was supposed to be. Looking at the buildings, architecture, little era stuff, and clothes are so precise and authentic. But after a while, it gets boring. The collectibles and little audiology prove nothing or add nothing to the lore. They are just there for flavor text.

Bottem-line: I truly recommend just renting this game since it really isn't that long and I can tell you know that there is no replay value and wait till it hits $40 or below cause $60 is just too much right now.

agreed. i have not played it myself, but based on everything i have read and seen in videos, i feel that the negative reception was primarily due to the length and false assumptions, not the quality. many people have grouped "quality" and "value" together when describing the game, yet they are very different things. the order has quality, but is lacking in terms or value, hence why i would only recommend it at a lower price point in the same way you would.

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I hate this game. I actually like to play games. This game is just move for a minute followed by a cutscene. Even if it is just something simple like jumping down from a ladder, it goes into a cutscene to show sir galahad looking around.

Basically this game is 1 minute walking/running, followed by a cutscene, followed by a qte, rinse and repeat. The game has no flow to it at all.

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The Order 1886 was the first game I actually full played through on the ps4. The game kept me engaged the whole time, there just wasn't enough. Also every reviewer kept comparing it to Gears of war, and that I would somewhat agree with but it takes more from Metal Gear Solid 4 and combines aspects of a heavy rain (David cage) style game.

The game had a sense of uniqueness but it did nothing Amazing besides the beautiful beautiful graphics and esthetics. I playes through the game 2 times because I felt so jipped in the first play through and the game just was kind of blann. I trade a lot of games to get this, but at the end of the day I just dont think it was worth the 79.97 canadian dollars

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I'm only on chapter 2, but so far it's exactly what I expected.

Nothing innovative but a solid standard shooter. My only complaint so far is that you feel handcuffed sometimes with the cutscenes.

Is it worth 60 beans, I can't answer that yet to be honest!

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Just finished the game on Hard difficulty. Spent about 7-8 hours ("guesstimate")....somewhere around there anyway.

The game looks absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful game. I don't mind that cinematic feel (30 fps, cinema bars, grainy picture), actually I feel it adds to the game's atmosphere. The voice acting is top notch. Very well done. But it is only available in Stereo ("where available"), but I could be wrong as my current setup is stereo. Sounds and music are great. Every weapon has it's own sound (something that all game-makers should take note off) and are fun to use. The Dragoon Revolver spins and slams around with every shot, sounding like a beast. The satisfying sound of the Thermite Rifle is great enough to give this game the rating 7.

The game has a great story, but nothing new. Still, it feels very well crafted. Characters are fun and well made- they have their own ideas and quirks. Although the story is good, it has some weird moments and some major plot holes, some that might be addressed in a sequel or , dare I say it?, DLC. The ending is very quick and had me craving for more, closure and an epilogue. A bit disappointing.

There's a lot of cinematics, that's true. And a lot of quick-time events, some that feel "natural" and others that feel slightly out of place. In a game like "The Order: 1886" I have no trouble with this game mechanic.

I'm a bit angry at Mr. Van Ord because giving the game a 5 doesn't justify it. It is a great, albeit short game. It does nothing new, but is a very well made third-person shooter with marvelous graphics, great audio, simple controls, a good universe set in the Victorian Era, and satisfying gunplay. If I were to review the game, I would give it a 7.

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@_Judas_ said:

Just finished the game on Hard difficulty. Spent about 7-8 hours ("guesstimate")....somewhere around there anyway.

The game looks absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful game. I don't mind that cinematic feel (30 fps, cinema bars, grainy picture), actually I feel it adds to the game's atmosphere. The voice acting is top notch. Very well done. But it is only available in Stereo ("where available"), but I could be wrong as my current setup is stereo. Sounds and music are great. Every weapon has it's own sound (something that all game-makers should take note off) and are fun to use. The Dragoon Revolver spins and slams around with every shot, sounding like a beast. The satisfying sound of the Thermite Rifle is great enough to give this game the rating 7.

The game has a great story, but nothing new. Still, it feels very well crafted. Characters are fun and well made- they have their own ideas and quirks. Although the story is good, it has some weird moments and some major plot holes, some that might be addressed in a sequel or , dare I say it?, DLC. The ending is very quick and had me craving for more, closure and an epilogue. A bit disappointing.

There's a lot of cinematics, that's true. And a lot of quick-time events, some that feel "natural" and others that feel slightly out of place. In a game like "The Order: 1886" I have no trouble with this game mechanic.

I'm a bit angry at Mr. Van Ord because giving the game a 5 doesn't justify it. It is a great, albeit short game. It does nothing new, but is a very well made third-person shooter with marvelous graphics, great audio, simple controls, a good universe set in the Victorian Era, and satisfying gunplay. If I were to review the game, I would give it a 7.

Agreed, even though I haven't finished it yet, I would give it between a 7.5-8!

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#30 Star67
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I'm in love with this game. One of the best single player stories I've played in a long time! Sadly I am just wanting more, wish it was longer, I can't believe I'm saying this.....but I want some DLC or a quick sequel.