This is disgusting news...

Now this is what happens when you let criminals off with secret backhander handshakes,first Sony ps3 and now... www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20110502/sony-ps3-hacker-geohot-sets-his-eyes-on-the-apple-ipad-2/sony should have had himjaildthe t @ .

Now this is what happens when you let criminals off with secret backhander handshakes,first Sony ps3 and now... www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20110502/sony-ps3-hacker-geohot-sets-his-eyes-on-the-apple-ipad-2/sony should have had himjaildthe t @ .

I_am_the_moon

He's a hacker, its what he does. He personally hasn't done anything to me so I don't really care

He's a hacker, its what he does.

seanmcloughlin

plenty of hackers help keep our crredit card information safe. companies hire hackers to see if they can ever get in to test security.

Now this is what happens when you let criminals off with secret backhander handshakes,first Sony ps3 and now... www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20110502/sony-ps3-hacker-geohot-sets-his-eyes-on-the-apple-ipad-2/sony should have had himjaildthe t @ .

I_am_the_moon

Just saying you would have thought he had better things to do rather than start anothercampaign to cause more upset to users,you think 70 million aint enough? not his doing so he says but the psn hack came from his loins sothose herewith no scrupples moaning at not seeing a problem go f yourselves,your the first to moan about the ps3 hack yet so far up your own a.... you defend the p..... that started it all. f....... muppets.:evil:

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

blabbyboy

geohots didnt only hack his own ps3 , , he hacked the whole #$%^ network , and stole creditcard numbers that is illegal in so many ways its a no contest! that guy deserves to rot in jail ,

i swear if he dont pay for his actions , and i m not able to watch my rugrats videos i downloaded on my ps3 cause of his actions , his time will be coming

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

blabbyboy

geohots didnt only hack his own ps3 , , he hacked the whole #$%^ network , and stole creditcard numbers that is illegal in so many ways its a no contest! that guy deserves to rot in jail ,

i swear if he dont pay for his actions , and i m not able to watch my rugrats videos i downloaded on my ps3 cause of his actions , his time will be coming

mariokart64fan

geohots didnt only hack his own ps3 , , he hacked the whole #$%^ network , and stole creditcard numbers that is illegal in so many ways its a no contest! that guy deserves to rot in jail ,

i swear if he dont pay for his actions , and i m not able to watch my rugrats videos i downloaded on my ps3 cause of his actions , his time will be coming

mariokart64fan

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

-Makaveli-

I want him to pay for this? yes of course but jail? lol no that's no good,he should be made to do community service for about 3 years.Are you happy that he got a slap on the wrist from sony and the fbi and got no jail or fine or anything? if that's the case then i need not answer your question as you obviously have all the right answers already. I do not condone malicious hackers who even with no intent to disrupt others,do not give a flying f...... about repercussions simple as that pal that's all. if your a wannabe hacker ou would stick up for this George guy but if your old skool you would think he is a cheeky little sod that has no scruples and likes to look like king hack....i can tell you for nothing that hackers never used to be this lackluster,they had some pride in the work for the people not themselves like GEORGE. if you do put him in a cell lets put him in a f...... PlayStation cell,lets face it he has been in those already. you keep defending what you think makes you look good to those who know nothing about the term HACKING. George would be known in the trade as a scriptkiddy nothing more.

PS you want Linux get a f........ pc.:evil:

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

geohots didnt only hack his own ps3 , , he hacked the whole #$%^ network , and stole creditcard numbers that is illegal in so many ways its a no contest! that guy deserves to rot in jail ,

i swear if he dont pay for his actions , and i m not able to watch my rugrats videos i downloaded on my ps3 cause of his actions , his time will be coming

dk00111

Get it into your head that he started the ball rolling so to speak,thats all some of us mean when we go on about this. from acorns and all that ya.

plenty of hackers help keep our crredit card information safe. companies hire hackers to see if they can ever get in to test security.

dave192873

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="blabbyboy"] I understand what you are saying, but by unlocking the ps3 things like this happen... blabbyboy

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

I_am_the_moon

I want him to pay for this? yes of course but jail? lol no that's no good,he should be made to do community service for about 3 years.Are you happy that he got a slap on the wrist from sony and the fbi and got no jail or fine or anything? if that's the case then i need not answer your question as you obviously have all the right answers already. I do not condone malicious hackers who even with no intent to disrupt others,do not give a flying f...... about repercussions simple as that pal that's all. if your a wannabe hacker ou would stick up for this George guy but if your old skool you would think he is a cheeky little sod that has no scruples and likes to look like king hack....i can tell you for nothing that hackers never used to be this lackluster,they had some pride in the work for the people not themselves like GEORGE. if you do put him in a cell lets put him in a f...... PlayStation cell,lets face it he has been in those already. you keep defending what you think makes you look good to those who know nothing about the term HACKING. George would be known in the trade as a scriptkiddy nothing more.

PS you want Linux get a f........ pc.:evil:

[QUOTE="blabbyboy"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] Screwing around with hardware should never have done anything like this. Sony's network security should have accounted for this like every other company does. If I purchase a piece of hardware, I am entitled to open it up and run as many electrons through any wires I choose. This is all it boils down to.-Makaveli-

why is he allowed to do this? he should be arrested and sent to jail then when bubba gets him he can talk about why he is a pisant.jcopp72

[QUOTE="blabbyboy"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] Screwing around with hardware should never have done anything like this. Sony's network security should have accounted for this like every other company does. If I purchase a piece of hardware, I am entitled to open it up and run as many electrons through any wires I choose. This is all it boils down to.-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="blabbyboy"] ...Your completely missing the point. He SHARED it online with everyone. Zaibach

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="blabbyboy"] ...Your completely missing the point. He SHARED it online with everyone. The_Rick_14

The vast majority of copyright law stands in opposition to first ammendment rights, although copyright law actually is in the constitution itself. All court cases in which first ammendment rights have been ruled against were explicitly justified by the malicious and unneccessary nature of the speech (such as yelling fire in a movie theatre). Since Geohotz specifically describes his work as "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices," I can't picture any judge taking that as maliscious.

He SHARED methods of running electrons through wires in hardware they purchased!? Call a wah-mbulance!-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] He SHARED methods of running electrons through wires in hardware they purchased!? Call a wah-mbulance!-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]you can call the same 'wah-mbulance' when online thieves use the tools you defend to rob you of your life savings.

blabbyboy

Jeez. First: Rebug, which is what you were referring to, was developed by Cyberskunk, not Geohot. Second: this was an attempt to simply let you use features already available on your console which had been locked (such as playing PS1 games which you've purchased). It was never anyone's attempt for this to lead to a security breach and if sony's security had been superior to a thin sheet of plastic wrap it never would have. Things get unlocked every day. Every cell phone worth mentioning had the same thing done to it as the PS3. You don't hear about every single phone company leaking personal information, do you?

Sorry to bring facts into your unfounded rage.

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] He SHARED methods of running electrons through wires in hardware they purchased!? Call a wah-mbulance!-Makaveli-

The vast majority of copyright law stands in opposition to first ammendment rights, although copyright law actually is in the constitution itself. All court cases in which first ammendment rights have been ruled against were explicitly justified by the malicious and unneccessary nature of the speech (such as yelling fire in a movie theatre). Since Geohotz specifically describes his work as "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices," I can't picture any judge taking that as maliscious.

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"] Didn't he violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which "criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself"?The_Rick_14

The vast majority of copyright law stands in opposition to first ammendment rights, although copyright law actually is in the constitution itself. All court cases in which first ammendment rights have been ruled against were explicitly justified by the malicious and unneccessary nature of the speech (such as yelling fire in a movie theatre). Since Geohotz specifically describes his work as "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices," I can't picture any judge taking that as maliscious.

Well, luckilly it takes far more to convict people of crimes in the United States than the prosecutor ensuring jurors that people lie.

Also, as I've already stated it wasn't geohot's hack which lead to this. Rebug likely wouldn't have been neccessary if Sony hadn't draconianly dissabled all PS3's which installed linux. What allowed the breach was posing as a developer console, not linux.

[QUOTE="I_am_the_moon"]

Now this is what happens when you let criminals off with secret backhander handshakes,first Sony ps3 and now... www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20110502/sony-ps3-hacker-geohot-sets-his-eyes-on-the-apple-ipad-2/sony should have had himjaildthe t @ .

dk00111

This, this, a jillion times this.

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] He SHARED methods of running electrons through wires in hardware they purchased!? Call a wah-mbulance!dk00111

Jailbreaking is legal so don't get all butthurt. Good for him, at least he is finding a legal outlet for his "talents".

Isn't jailbreaking legal?

Hacker's cant be stopped they will always do this if he hacks apple good luck to him i could'ent really care, hackers are only pushing there limits of there ability to hack stuff. JUST STAY OFF PSN. :P

[QUOTE="I_am_the_moon"]

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

-Makaveli-

I want him to pay for this? yes of course but jail? lol no that's no good,he should be made to do community service for about 3 years.Are you happy that he got a slap on the wrist from sony and the fbi and got no jail or fine or anything? if that's the case then i need not answer your question as you obviously have all the right answers already. I do not condone malicious hackers who even with no intent to disrupt others,do not give a flying f...... about repercussions simple as that pal that's all. if your a wannabe hacker ou would stick up for this George guy but if your old skool you would think he is a cheeky little sod that has no scruples and likes to look like king hack....i can tell you for nothing that hackers never used to be this lackluster,they had some pride in the work for the people not themselves like GEORGE. if you do put him in a cell lets put him in a f...... PlayStation cell,lets face it he has been in those already. you keep defending what you think makes you look good to those who know nothing about the term HACKING. George would be known in the trade as a scriptkiddy nothing more.

PS you want Linux get a f........ pc.:evil:

Hacker's cant be stopped they will always do this if he hacks apple good luck to him i could'ent really care, hackers are only pushing there limits of there ability to hack stuff. JUST STAY OFF PSN. :P

AkiraCloud

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

The vast majority of copyright law stands in opposition to first ammendment rights, although copyright law actually is in the constitution itself. All court cases in which first ammendment rights have been ruled against were explicitly justified by the malicious and unneccessary nature of the speech (such as yelling fire in a movie theatre). Since Geohotz specifically describes his work as "Running homebrew and exploring security on your devices," I can't picture any judge taking that as maliscious.

-Makaveli-

Well, luckilly it takes far more to convict people of crimes in the United States than the prosecutor ensuring jurors that people lie.

Also, as I've already stated it wasn't geohot's hack which lead to this. Rebug likely wouldn't have been neccessary if Sony hadn't draconianly dissabled all PS3's which installed linux. What allowed the breach was posing as a developer console, not linux.

[QUOTE="jcopp72"]why is he allowed to do this? he should be arrested and sent to jail then when bubba gets him he can talk about why he is a pisant.-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="blabbyboy"][QUOTE="-Makaveli-"] Wait, so some dude modifying his own ps3 to run linux = some other dude actually stealing my life savings? 'kay-Makaveli-

Jeez. First: Rebug, which is what you were referring to, was developed by Cyberskunk, not Geohot. Second: this was an attempt to simply let you use features already available on your console which had been locked (such as playing PS1 games which you've purchased). It was never anyone's attempt for this to lead to a security breach and if sony's security had been superior to a thin sheet of plastic wrap it never would have. Things get unlocked every day. Every cell phone worth mentioning had the same thing done to it as the PS3. You don't hear about every single phone company leaking personal information, do you?

Sorry to bring facts into your unfounded rage.

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

-Makaveli-

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

PoisoN_Facecam0

Uhhh it's called Terms of service for a reason, that would mean if he breaks the terms that means he gets no service (ie PSN). Breaking the TOS doesn't mean you break the law....

What you are referring to is the EULA (end user license agreement). This would usually be considered a contractual agreement between the purchaser and the person/company selling the product. First off it's not considered a criminal offense to break a contract (you don't go to jail for that) that's why I lol every time some one suggests it. Besides that, the contract has to be agreed to at the time of sale not after the sale of the product was already made ( a judgement in a case covering just this topic outlined this very thing: http://www.internetlibrary.com/cases/lib_case209.cfm ). Thus once he paid for the system any EULA that wasn't agreed to BEFORE the purchase would basically mean absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="I_am_the_moon"]

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Geohot purchases a PS3 with his own hard earned money and comes up with a method such that PS3 users can use the hardware they purchased. And you want him to rot in a cell? Really?

-Makaveli-

I want him to pay for this? yes of course but jail? lol no that's no good,he should be made to do community service for about 3 years.Are you happy that he got a slap on the wrist from sony and the fbi and got no jail or fine or anything? if that's the case then i need not answer your question as you obviously have all the right answers already. I do not condone malicious hackers who even with no intent to disrupt others,do not give a flying f...... about repercussions simple as that pal that's all. if your a wannabe hacker ou would stick up for this George guy but if your old skool you would think he is a cheeky little sod that has no scruples and likes to look like king hack....i can tell you for nothing that hackers never used to be this lackluster,they had some pride in the work for the people not themselves like GEORGE. if you do put him in a cell lets put him in a f...... PlayStation cell,lets face it he has been in those already. you keep defending what you think makes you look good to those who know nothing about the term HACKING. George would be known in the trade as a scriptkiddy nothing more.

PS you want Linux get a f........ pc.:evil:

Of course I'm no expert,I'm a pissed off playstation plus subscriber who plays f...... DC universe and i want it back. and what are you talking about? he started it by hacking the ps3 and giving the keys out to others who then with or without him knowing went ahead and robbed 77 million accounts,this is why i moan about it,why the f.... would you not get that.