Trading in my 120gb Slim for a 20gb Phat thoughts?

My set up pretty much looks sweeter with the shiny glossy finish being that my tv stand is glossy black as wel. I curenty own San Andreas and Zone of the Enders 2 for ps2 so BC isnt really a huge factor forme. What do you guys think of this decison?

this is in kin to you having a ferrari and trading down to a honda accord...

which is not a good thing

well to he ferrari reference lol which one is the honda? wasnt the 20gb btter overall with fewer ylod compared to the 60 n 80 models??

20GB? Is that the one that DOESN'T HAVE WIFI? That's such a bad deal...If you want BC then just buy a PS2. If you want it for the glossy finish...then I don't know what to say.

If it was a yet-to-ylod 60gb i'd do it, but the 20 doesn't have wifi possible. If you're into having a good looking entertainment center I imagine an extra cord would be a turn off. Cosmetically though fatties win, sorta... Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gBRkFNQx7U&feature=related

My set up pretty much looks sweeter with the shiny glossy finish being that my tv stand is glossy black as wel. I curenty own San Andreas and Zone of the Enders 2 for ps2 so BC isnt really a huge factor forme. What do you guys think of this decison?

HoVDaHuSTLa1

20 GB doesn't have wifi, uses like $20 more electric PER YEAR compared to slim, much bigger, doesn't look as good IMO, AS LOUD AS A HELICOPTER and is unbearable to watch movies on, more prone to ylod, probably has lot more wear and tear on it, runs much hotter and that 20gb phat probably got the ylod and is temporarily fixed.

I wouldn't spend $100 on it... let alone trade in a 120 gb slim ps3 for it.

the wifi isnt really an issue withme i dont like playing wifi..i prefer the unattractive wire lol anyway, i just ealy like the casing, i just hope it doesnt crap out on me in week :\ so whats the verdict yay or nay?

ive neer been so confused...also, how are movies unbareable to wach on the older 20gb? please explain

Everyone pretty much said everything that I was going to say. So I will just say don't do it.

ive neer been so confused...also, how are movies unbareable to wach on the older 20gb? please explain

HoVDaHuSTLa1

All the early phat models that I have witnessed were very loud. The fat ps3 uses more electricity and gets real hot so that is probably why the fan is working so much and so loud. Almost sounds like a dust buster vacuum or hairdryer. I was watching a movie on my friend's 60 gb launch fat PS3 and it was very annoying. The slim ps3 is so much better and quieter. Type in "loud ps3" on youtube and see for yourself.

I think it's safe to say the verdict is nay. It's an ancient machine, it was only produced during the era of the highest failure rate PS3s, it has no wifi possibility, and it's a straight up rip-off. Anybody willing to trade such a low value system for a practically new one probably wouldn't feel bad about failing to mention the 2-3 times it may have gotten the YLOD. It's up to you to decide what to do, but I urge you not to.

Why don't you just buy a cover for your slim ?

I really hate the touch buttons on my 60gb fat much prefer my 160gb slim

The ones stating the 20gb machine is "old" and the slim is "new"... that is mind blowingly stupid to say. Machinery is machinery, if it performs the same then one can't be considered old and the other new. In terms of the old PS3 phat's lifespan running out anytime soon - VERY DOUBTFUL, this is more b.s imo. I've got machinery around that is over 25 years old and still running strong. Why would the old PS3 suddenly up and die just because it's four or so years old.. meh..

The PS3 and the PS3 slim are more or less the same. The only things to note are mostly aesthetic, such as touch sensitive buttons on the phat and normal buttons on the slim. And of course the size of the consoles/

It's true that the 20gb model does not have a wifi adapter built in, so that's also something to consider if you use wireless. Apart from that, obbiously you're losing out on HDD space.

if you really like the way the old PS3 looks then trade it in. It seems a bit crazy I suppose as both machines do the same thing, and you're only trading for aesthetic value. But it's upto you really.

No offense, but what a dumb deal. You traded 160GB for 20GB. So you are pretty much getting like 12GB of free space. The new ones are less weight and are more environment friendly. You did this because of the way the old PS3 looks? WTF? If I could trade my 60GB for one of the newer ones, I would do it.

The ones stating the 20gb machine is "old" and the slim is "new"... that is mind blowingly stupid to say. Machinery is machinery, if it performs the same then one can't be considered old and the other new. In terms of the old PS3 phat's lifespan running out anytime soon - VERY DOUBTFUL, this is more b.s imo. I've got machinery around that is over 25 years old and still running strong. Why would the old PS3 suddenly up and die just because it's four or so years old.. meh..

The PS3 and the PS3 slim are more or less the same. The only things to note are mostly aesthetic, such as touch sensitive buttons on the phat and normal buttons on the slim. And of course the size of the consoles/

It's true that the 20gb model does not have a wifi adapter built in, so that's also something to consider if you use wireless. Apart from that, obbiously you're losing out on HDD space.

if you really like the way the old PS3 looks then trade it in. It seems a bit crazy I suppose as both machines do the same thing, and you're only trading for aesthetic value. But it's upto you really.

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

The ones stating the 20gb machine is "old" and the slim is "new"... that is mind blowingly stupid to say. Machinery is machinery, if it performs the same then one can't be considered old and the other new. In terms of the old PS3 phat's lifespan running out anytime soon - VERY DOUBTFUL, this is more b.s imo. I've got machinery around that is over 25 years old and still running strong. Why would the old PS3 suddenly up and die just because it's four or so years old.. meh..

The PS3 and the PS3 slim are more or less the same. The only things to note are mostly aesthetic, such as touch sensitive buttons on the phat and normal buttons on the slim. And of course the size of the consoles/

It's true that the 20gb model does not have a wifi adapter built in, so that's also something to consider if you use wireless. Apart from that, obbiously you're losing out on HDD space.

if you really like the way the old PS3 looks then trade it in. It seems a bit crazy I suppose as both machines do the same thing, and you're only trading for aesthetic value. But it's upto you really.

jnjreams76

The differences pointed out are not necessarily in favour of the slim. In fact they're pretty damn negligible, because the ps3slim has some advantages and the fat has some advnatages also. For example the PS3fat still retains the ability to install linux, it has gloss finish and touch sensitive buttons, a power button on the rear of the console. It does not need a stand to be stood up vertically. Comparing these advantages to the slim, and then really it boils down to preference and not one verison of the console clearly being better the other. One person might want a glossy PS3 with touch sensitive buttons and linux compatability. Where as someone else might want slightly less power usage footprint.

Andthere's no way the old ps3 are nearing the end of their life span. If you knew anything about electronics you would know that a well built piece of machinery will last a damn well long time (decades) if properly looked after and ventilated. There's no reason for the OLD PS3 to break down anytime soon. I have a PS2 which is over 10 years old still going strong, a PS1 still going strong.

If you're going to say the old PS3 only has a five year lifespan, you better give some reason why. Otherwise you're just making it obvious you don't know what you're talking about and are just stating a opinion for the sake of it. Is their a fault with the old PS3 hardware which means its components will only survive five years? If not then what makes you think the PS3 will only last five years..

[QUOTE="jnjreams76"][QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

The ones stating the 20gb machine is "old" and the slim is "new"... that is mind blowingly stupid to say. Machinery is machinery, if it performs the same then one can't be considered old and the other new. In terms of the old PS3 phat's lifespan running out anytime soon - VERY DOUBTFUL, this is more b.s imo. I've got machinery around that is over 25 years old and still running strong. Why would the old PS3 suddenly up and die just because it's four or so years old.. meh..

The PS3 and the PS3 slim are more or less the same. The only things to note are mostly aesthetic, such as touch sensitive buttons on the phat and normal buttons on the slim. And of course the size of the consoles/

It's true that the 20gb model does not have a wifi adapter built in, so that's also something to consider if you use wireless. Apart from that, obbiously you're losing out on HDD space.

if you really like the way the old PS3 looks then trade it in. It seems a bit crazy I suppose as both machines do the same thing, and you're only trading for aesthetic value. But it's upto you really.

The differences pointed out are not necessarily in favour of the slim. In fact they're pretty damn negligible, because the ps3slim has some advantages and the fat has some advnatages also. For example the PS3fat still retains the ability to install linux, it has gloss finish and touch sensitive buttons, a power button on the rear of the console. It does not need a stand to be stood up vertically. Comparing these advantages to the slim, and then really it boils down to preference and not one verison of the console clearly being better the other. One person might want a glossy PS3 with touch sensitive buttons and linux compatability. Where as someone else might want slightly less power usage footprint.

Andthere's no way the old ps3 are nearing the end of their life span. If you knew anything about electronics you would know that a well built piece of machinery will last a damn well long time (decades) if properly looked after and ventilated. There's no reason for the OLD PS3 to break down anytime soon. I have a PS2 which is over 10 years old still going strong, a PS1 still going strong.

If you're going to say the old PS3 only has a five year lifespan, you better give some reason why. Otherwise you're just making it obvious you don't know what you're talking about and are just stating a opinion for the sake of it. Is their a fault with the old PS3 hardware which means its components will only survive five years? If not then what makes you think the PS3 will only last five years..

The PS3 has a very small percentage of failure rates. There's no way the OLD PS3s are suddenly going to start failing left and right just because it hits the "5" year landmark. IMO it's a stupid excuse, maybe if it was the old 360 which had a failure rate of around 30% due to design faults then I can see the issue. But not with the old PS3, more than likely all you will see is a hard drive failure or the fan needs replacement. But If you look after the old PS3, ventilate it well it will last a long time. Definitely long enough until PS4 and next gen.

The PS3 has a very small percentage of failure rates. There's no way the OLD PS3s are suddenly going to start failing left and right just because it hits the "5" year landmark. IMO it's a stupid excuse, maybe if it was the old 360 which had a failure rate of around 30% due to design faults then I can see the issue. But not with the old PS3, more than likely all you will see is a hard drive failure or the fan needs replacement. But If you look after the old PS3, ventilate it well it will last a long time. Definitely long enough until PS4 and next gen.

ShimmerMan

I simply garnered my opinion from the numerous people I know (online and off) that experiencesd blu ray drive failure, hdd failure or ylod of their launch (fat) consoles around 3-5 years after purchase. Don't take it personally though. I don't believe it's a "stupid excuse" to feel a 5 year old machine will fail before a new one. I hope your console lasts as long as you need it to.

[QUOTE="jnjreams76"][QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

The ones stating the 20gb machine is "old" and the slim is "new"... that is mind blowingly stupid to say. Machinery is machinery, if it performs the same then one can't be considered old and the other new. In terms of the old PS3 phat's lifespan running out anytime soon - VERY DOUBTFUL, this is more b.s imo. I've got machinery around that is over 25 years old and still running strong. Why would the old PS3 suddenly up and die just because it's four or so years old.. meh..

The PS3 and the PS3 slim are more or less the same. The only things to note are mostly aesthetic, such as touch sensitive buttons on the phat and normal buttons on the slim. And of course the size of the consoles/

It's true that the 20gb model does not have a wifi adapter built in, so that's also something to consider if you use wireless. Apart from that, obbiously you're losing out on HDD space.

if you really like the way the old PS3 looks then trade it in. It seems a bit crazy I suppose as both machines do the same thing, and you're only trading for aesthetic value. But it's upto you really.

ShimmerMan

The differences pointed out are not necessarily in favour of the slim. In fact they're pretty damn negligible, because the ps3slim has some advantages and the fat has some advnatages also. For example the PS3fat still retains the ability to install linux, it has gloss finish and touch sensitive buttons, a power button on the rear of the console. It does not need a stand to be stood up vertically. Comparing these advantages to the slim, and then really it boils down to preference and not one verison of the console clearly being better the other. One person might want a glossy PS3 with touch sensitive buttons and linux compatability. Where as someone else might want slightly less power usage footprint.

Andthere's no way the old ps3 are nearing the end of their life span. If you knew anything about electronics you would know that a well built piece of machinery will last a damn well long time (decades) if properly looked after and ventilated. There's no reason for the OLD PS3 to break down anytime soon. I have a PS2 which is over 10 years old still going strong, a PS1 still going strong.

If you're going to say the old PS3 only has a five year lifespan, you better give some reason why. Otherwise you're just making it obvious you don't know what you're talking about and are just stating a opinion for the sake of it. Is their a fault with the old PS3 hardware which means its components will only survive five years? If not then what makes you think the PS3 will only last five years..

If the poster wants to play online, then he has to update his system. Linux is taken out of the fat PS3's with the newest update. How is touch sensitive buttons an advantage?

I really cant recommend it man. I have a 60G myself and two slims and i personally would keep my 60G over the slims but I'm the first owner of the 60G and know for a fact it has never Ylod'ed. There's just that unknown factor which can make or break this deal. If you're trading with a friend and you trust him that it's never crapped out before then i'd feel a bit safer about it but still and 20G is just a bad deal. If it was a good condition 60G then it'd be a different story.

What might be a better alternative for you is a while back i recall an online site that does custom paint jobs on ps3. They were very professional and there work looked top notch from the pictures i saw. I think the shop was called colorware or something like that. I'm sure a couple minutes on goggle and you'll find it no problem. Check it out, i'm sure they'll have some kinda gloss finished coating that you so desire.

And to the person that say the slim is unbearable to watch a movie on doesnt know what he's talking about. If your 60G is in good condition then it'll run quiet like it did when it was brand new. Mine runs super quiet just like my slim and the heat output is about equal, as those slims actually put out a lot of heat. Admittedly the phat's do drink a little more juice but i've read the extensive review on power usage on both models and it's less than 20 dollars a year, which if you cant afford, then you have bigger problems and playing video games isnt something you should concern yourself with.

Here i found the link for you COLORWARE

At the end kof the day, ifwifi wasnt a factor, 20gb wouldnt be THAT muc of a problem? I have to agree withb the post about electronics lasting longer than its initgial "5 year" span life. Ifyou take care of your stff I see no reason why it should not pass 5 years. I tink I might gamble with this one and g fo it. Its in pretty solid conditin regular wear on thbe top casing, but over al it plays games and movies very qietly. Im looking forward to it!

sorry for the typos im typing on a really bad phone

I don't think HDD space is an issue any way you look at it. I have a 160 slim and a fat that was 80 filled up and I replaced it with a 760. I will never buy a console based on the HDD space as it is upgradable and at this point you can buy a TB for like 50 bucks or less. Granted I don't believe the PS3s architecture supports an HDD that big, but going into the future the next system will no doubt support larger drives and by that point you may be able to get a 3TB or bigger anyway.

If I were you, I would look for a 60 phat, you get everything you want cosmetic wise, and it has BC. But I'm biased, I love my 60 phat :)

Maybe you can find what you're looking for, and still keep your slim perhaps. Check your local paper, you never know if someone's wife is making hubby get rid of their console for cheap lol.

Not the best idea in the world, sure it looks nicer, but that won't mean much when it breaks down in a few months (That's really how long I'm expecting it to last)

Trading in the new PS3 for the old one? Hell no, I wouldn't even think of doing that, give me a slim any day over those phatties.

Bad idea.

**UPDATE**

I now have had it for several days. It runs very smooth, the only thing that concerns me is the fan kicking into level 2 ( I believe level 5 is that loud obnoxious level where it's a sign of YLOD) in like 15 minutes of gameplay. Should I be worried? It's not loud, but it's not silent either, I can hear the fan a lot sooner than I thought I would. Aside that, cosmetically it's in tip top shape.