*UPDATED 1-23-11 NO MW:BO Server Shutdown* PS3 Encryption Hack...

I'm not a computer wizard by any means. But the more I've read about this PS3 encryption hack the more I'm realizing I simply am not going to be able to play with anyone but friends in the very near future.

To my understanding, the 360 hackers / modders can be caught with their JTagged boxes or firmware upgrades due to the fact that they are physically changing something to the box itself, hence the bans. But the PS3 failure is so complete that no matter what happens to the box itself, the network can't tell if anything's been altered due to the manner in which the network is "seeing" info from the PS3 -- meaning the changes are transparent to the network and there's no way to stop folks from doing this, system upgrades be damned.

It depresses me to no end. I can't believe how compromised the system is.

UPDATE:

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/activision-contemplate-closing-ps3-black-ops-servers--3699.html

And it's going to be ruined for everyone shortly. I know it's not official, but the fact that this is even being considered is abysmal.

UPDATE 2:

Article was proven to be incorrect and confirmed as a "misunderstanding" by Activision the following day.

Online games always had hackers, just play some CoD4:MW and you'll see what I mean. Sure it's horrible that they gained full access to the system, but as we know the PS3 is hard to code for, so there won't be a lot of people around that take their time learning how to code for it :S I don't think we will see much of a difference in online play at all

Online games always had hackers, just play some CoD4:MW and you'll see what I mean. Sure it's horrible that they gained full access to the system, but as we know the PS3 is hard to code for, so there won't be a lot of people around that take their time learning how to code for it :S I don't think we will see much of a difference in online play at all

ArchoNils2

dude no... When devs say "hard to code" they are talking specifically about SPE's and other complications like the divided system ram that makes it harder to push the system for visually impressive games. Hackers are not making games for the PS3, they are making applications and these don't require as much resource to run as Uncharted 2 that needs to squeeze every drop of processing power through optimizations and stuff.

Programming is an universal language for Windows, Mac, Linux, whatever what changes is the architecture. Like for example the X360 uses DirectX while PS3's Open GL to render graphics and these api's are comparable but many people find DirectX to be easier just because is Windows and that's what you learn in college. But to that add the unified system ram, a tri-core CPU and GPU and what you get is basically PC architecture. The coding is basically the same for the PS3 and that's why they can port from the X360 but the architecture is slightly different cus the PS3 has SPE instead of Cores, a much weaker GPU and divided System Ram but the Cell still has a PPU which lets hacker code for it very easily like if they were doing it for a PC. And like I already told you these applications don't need the SPE or extreme optimizations so anybody with decent skills can do applications for the PS3 by using a compatible compiler like C++ and this is what we call Homebrew. edit: BTW piracy and Homebrew are not the same thing; Hombrew is legal according to theDMCA.

well like you said you're not a computer wiz..let's hope they find a solution for this..

Online games always had hackers, just play some CoD4:MW and you'll see what I mean. Sure it's horrible that they gained full access to the system, but as we know the PS3 is hard to code for, so there won't be a lot of people around that take their time learning how to code for it :S I don't think we will see much of a difference in online play at all

ArchoNils2

I'd recommend taking off personal stuff off PSN as well(credit card info and what not). This is all Sony's fault, they never should have removed "other os". :(

I'd recommend taking off personal stuff off PSN as well(credit card info and what not). This is all Sony's fault, they never should have removed "other os". :(

UnknownElement4

Hopefully Sony will solve the problem...if not dust of those single players games. Even though I'm not a fan of Mass Effect 2, I must say thatit's probably one of the best SP games available at the moment.

I am anticipating the effects of this Hack soon. Either Sony Rushes out PS4 or there would so much security measures that would kill us genuine gamers or Sony would pack up and leave the console scene totaly so that Microsoft can enjoy Monopoly:cry:

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I am anticipating the effects of this Hack soon. Either Sony Rushes out PS4 or there would so much security measures that would kill us genuine gamers or Sony would pack up and leave the console scene totaly so that Microsoft can enjoy Monopoly:cry:

codezer0

What? No way, I love Sony. I really hope there is a PS4, and to be honest I'd love to see some more console makers get into the mix. More competition = better products for all of us to enjoy.

Though I must admit I would be VERY interested if Nintendo decided to release a console next gen that could compete with Microsoft and Sony's offerings on a technical scale.

I'm hoping Valve steps in and allows Steam on most games in the future. Should fix everything.

I don't know exactly how game programming works, but aren't there tags they can have to specific areas/actions that make them illegal to do in (future) games?

Also, I have to admit after reading one of the above posts, the PS3 is a bit pricey, and from personal research (and limited application), there are things that can go horribly wrong if you don't do things right when modding...and not everyone wants to put a few hundred into buying multiple PS3s.

And...well, let's take PlayStation Home for this point that I'm going to make; people are always going to exploit the errors in the coding (not particularly hacking, but sometimes, it really does have that feel to it), that's why we get people standing where they shouldn't be able to get to, people with 'imported' items (not sure if it was fixed but I do remember there was a way to do it), etc. I personally believe the hacking won't be nearly as much of a problem as the exploiting.

[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I am anticipating the effects of this Hack soon. Either Sony Rushes out PS4 or there would so much security measures that would kill us genuine gamers or Sony would pack up and leave the console scene totaly so that Microsoft can enjoy Monopoly:cry:

Vari3ty

What? No way, I love Sony. I really hope there is a PS4, and to be honest I'd love to see some more console makers get into the mix. More competition = better products for all of us to enjoy.

Though I must admit I would be VERY interested if Nintendo decided to release a console next gen that could compete with Microsoft and Sony's offerings on a technical scale.

You do remember that Nintendo's still in it, right? :? And it could mean we'd get to see a Dreamcast 2... :D DOWN WITH SONY!!codezer0

What? No way, I love Sony. I really hope there is a PS4, and to be honest I'd love to see some more console makers get into the mix. More competition = better products for all of us to enjoy.

Though I must admit I would be VERY interested if Nintendo decided to release a console next gen that could compete with Microsoft and Sony's offerings on a technical scale.

[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

What? No way, I love Sony. I really hope there is a PS4, and to be honest I'd love to see some more console makers get into the mix. More competition = better products for all of us to enjoy.

Though I must admit I would be VERY interested if Nintendo decided to release a console next gen that could compete with Microsoft and Sony's offerings on a technical scale.

MrSelf-Destruct

Kind of have to agree with this. It's pretty obvious who you favor when you have a link in your signature to the encryption keys Geohot released. I also could be wrong, but I think that's against forum policy to have that in a post. Not trying to sound like a jerk here or anything, but yeah...

Doesn't matter if you think what they're doing is useful. Fact is, the hack is allowing folks to be in "god mode" in games, use aimbots, wallhacks, etc. It sucks. I came to console from PC to avoid this kind of crap. F Geohotz and his ilk.

In fact, here's what comes of this kind of act. Really -- continue supporting Geohotz and the rest of those tools. Makes it great for everyone.

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/activision-contemplate-closing-ps3-black-ops-servers--3699.html

The article says they "are considering it", not that it has already happened. Reading is a skill.

I do seriously hope that it's not all bad.

If anything now, devs might have to make dedicated servers. That might clean up things a little bit.

Is this the same Activision that was threatening to quit making games for the PS3 unless Sony lowered the price of the console (while simultaneously saying they would like to raise the price of Activision games as much as possible)? Why yes, yes it is.

I don't know how this hacking thing will pan out, but if it makes a huge mess out of the online stuff, it may encourage developers to devote their efforts to the single-player portion of games instead. Which would be fine with me.

[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

I am anticipating the effects of this Hack soon. Either Sony Rushes out PS4 or there would so much security measures that would kill us genuine gamers or Sony would pack up and leave the console scene totaly so that Microsoft can enjoy Monopoly:cry:

Vari3ty

What? No way, I love Sony. I really hope there is a PS4, and to be honest I'd love to see some more console makers get into the mix. More competition = better products for all of us to enjoy.

Though I must admit I would be VERY interested if Nintendo decided to release a console next gen that could compete with Microsoft and Sony's offerings on a technical scale.

have u seen the AMD fusion tech demos? tiny intergrated CPU/GPU combos capable of playing DX11 quality games!!!!! i am predicting a similar style chipset from nintendo, small and quiet. or we might just see a custom ARM dual core chip.

The article says they "are considering it", not that it has already happened. Reading is a skill.

mindworm22

There was an official statement from Activision that they will not shut down the servers.Do some googling next time.

Here is the statement-

"Fortunately, that was just a misunderstanding and a quote from one of our representatives was taken out of context and created a lot of confusion. We can assure you that the Call of Duty: Black Ops servers are not being shut down, and this is a false alarm. We are sorry for any inconvenience or unnecessary worries this may have caused, but as of now, there are absolutely no plans for the servers to be taken down."

And this is the link for the article-http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/call-duty-black-ops-misunderstanding/

People stop spreading panic.

Is is spreading fear when Robert Bowling and IW say "... I encourage you to play exclusively with friends by utilizing the party or private match options in Modern Warfare 2 and Call of Duty 4 to avoid such players as much as possible until this issue is resolved by Sony."

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/mw2-broken-on-the-ps3-recommended-you-play-exclusively-with-friends-20110118/

Keep your head in the pillow if you'd like, but the system is compromised and many of us like to play in the community, not simply in single player fashion. And if the community can no longer be governed due to -- and I'm not exaggerating -- a catestrophic security flaw, we lose an absurdly large portion of the PS3 experience.

And the article you're quoting, Conistant, is from the day after the one I quoted. I didn't have a time machine, sorry....

And the article you're quoting, Conistant, is from the day after the one I quoted. I didn't have a time machine, sorry....

mindworm22

"...Black ops has not been affected by the hack.IW mentioned only MW and MW2 have been affected so I think you need to get your head out from under the pillow..."

And Black Ops isn't next on the list? Do you REALLY think it's not going to be hit soon? Methinks you need to get your head out of somewhere besides a pillow, sir.

[QUOTE="jwn25"]wow these threads keep popping up. 1. Sony will not release ps4 because of this hack, So people calm down and stop crying 2. Sony can actually patch and cut down on a lot of this kind of stuff, screw the "hackers" claiming the console is wide open. yes they discovered keys etc but without the ability to install/run packages it's moot. 3. I do wish people would stop condoning what geohot has done here by claiming it's sony's fault for taking away the otheros. sony removed the otheros because "hackers" were getting upto stuff they shouldnt have. 4. wrap this "homebrew" up all you like, piracy is piracy.kieranb2000

"...Black ops has not been affected by the hack.IW mentioned only MW and MW2 have been affected so I think you need to get your head out from under the pillow..."

And Black Ops isn't next on the list? Do you REALLY think it's not going to be hit soon? Methinks you need to get your head out of somewhere besides a pillow, sir.

mindworm22

Black Ops has dedicated servers for the PC only. The console versions don't. Unless I'm wrong, prove me with a valid source. Plus Black ops its too buggy to be running on dedicated servers and because of one person disconnecting the entire games closes. gtfo

Black Ops has dedicated servers for the PC only. The console versions don't. Unless I'm wrong, prove me with a valid source. Plus Black ops its too buggy to be running on dedicated servers and because of one person disconnecting the entire games closes. gtfo

WR_Platinum

iam afraid the ps3 is wide open and its just the beggining i hope sony dont win there case against hotz before long companys will be prommising all kinds and after a few months take feutures away and if i buy a car and change the engine i can becouse its mine i paid for it same as as a ps3 all paid for not borrowed if i want to make it into something else i can what if i wanted to run a homebrew app that could help doctors and medical staff save lifes i wiull do becouse i own it i hope the same thing happens to the ps4 but not in the same time frame the day its released i want to run homebrew and emulaters **** piracy but its not against the law to make a copy of a game you own i no its the biggest excuse pirates use but its trueCOLINBENNAZ

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Black Ops has dedicated servers for the PC only. The console versions don't. Unless I'm wrong, prove me with a valid source. Plus Black ops its too buggy to be running on dedicated servers and because of one person disconnecting the entire games closes. gtfo

MrSelf-Destruct

My guess would be that since MW and MW2 have been taken over so badly that Black Ops is the only to take for playing COD at this moment. Now I thought that Blops shuttin down servers was bs, but at the same time I think it can become a reality unless Activision and Treyarch bring Blops to dedicated servers to make it difficult for Hackers to breach.

I wouldn't surprised if Blops gets in a few weeks or a days, the game is as buggy as it is so I'm sure hackers will find a way to take over.

[QUOTE="mindworm22"]

"...Black ops has not been affected by the hack.IW mentioned only MW and MW2 have been affected so I think you need to get your head out from under the pillow..."

And Black Ops isn't next on the list? Do you REALLY think it's not going to be hit soon? Methinks you need to get your head out of somewhere besides a pillow, sir.

conistant