Upscaling of DVD:s

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#1 matteno1
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Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

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#2 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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I don't know of anything official, as of yet, but there has been much speculation that it will be coming with March update. The ps3 is, afterall, Sony's flagship Blu-Ray player, and every other BR player on the market can upscale dvds.
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Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

matteno1


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!
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#4 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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[QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

Shu76


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

Yeah, all it will take is a firmware update. Honestly, the processor required to upscale a dvd, like the ones used in standard BR players, is nothing compared to the Cell. While playing a movie, the ps3 isn't doing much of anything else, and could easily use the Cell as an upscaler. Of course, that would only be necessary if the internal scaler rumors turn out to be false. However, the ps3 can upscale certain things now, and this is supposedly due to an internal hardware scaler, according to Beyond3D.
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#5 matteno1
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[QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

Shu76


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

OK, stop screaming and cut down on the coffee...
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[QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

Shu76


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

I feel ensured that the image will be upscaled if people play their DVDs in full screen through something like VLC player in linux. It's nothing more than a software issue in the main OS (if people haven't noticed the PS3 OS is quite bare bone at the moment) and please stop typing in caps, very annoying.
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#7 Shu76
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[QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

matteno1


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

OK, stop screaming and cut down on the coffee...



I don't drink coffee, just tired of the same questions being asked over and over again.
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[QUOTE="matteno1"][QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

Shu76


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

OK, stop screaming and cut down on the coffee...



I don't drink coffee, just tired of the same questions being asked over and over again.




then dont looks at the threads then hm??? every think of that and dont come in here saying ps3 cant upscale dvds when you dont know what your talking about a firmware update can fix that jeez
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Right now, the PS3 can't scale anything. Maybe in the future it will be able to.
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When I put in the THX video calibration tests included with my Star Wars EP 2 DVD, the brightness adjustment reveals that the PS3's DVD player is at present, very poor. It's incapable of displaying the THX drop shadow, which the test says may happen on units with low quality decoders. I was surprised by this since I assumed the PS3 had terrific parts in it. So if you have a good DVD player, best not to watch DVDs on your PS3, even if your TV rules. HDMI doesn't matter if the PS3 lacks the decoders needed to produce accurate values. It doesn't effect me, but just FYI for anybody using their PS3 for DVD watching. The same thing occurs when you run Digital Video Essentials.
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#11 ITaLiaN_BrO_699
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[QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

makingmusic476


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

Yeah, all it will take is a firmware update. Honestly, the processor required to upscale a dvd, like the ones used in standard BR players, is nothing compared to the Cell. While playing a movie, the ps3 isn't doing much of anything else, and could easily use the Cell as an upscaler. Of course, that would only be necessary if the internal scaler rumors turn out to be false. However, the ps3 can upscale certain things now, and this is supposedly due to an internal hardware scaler, according to Beyond3D.

ps3 is possible to upscale dvds but its not because of the cell, its going to be hard for sony to make this possible because the ps3 doesn't have a great scaler i've been hearing, i think it will be added in the march update...im sure its possible
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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

ITaLiaN_BrO_699


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

Yeah, all it will take is a firmware update. Honestly, the processor required to upscale a dvd, like the ones used in standard BR players, is nothing compared to the Cell. While playing a movie, the ps3 isn't doing much of anything else, and could easily use the Cell as an upscaler. Of course, that would only be necessary if the internal scaler rumors turn out to be false. However, the ps3 can upscale certain things now, and this is supposedly due to an internal hardware scaler, according to Beyond3D.

ps3 is possible to upscale dvds but its not because of the cell, its going to be hard for sony to make this possible because the ps3 doesn't have a great scaler i've been hearing, i think it will be added in the march update...im sure its possible

A dedicated scaler is mainly needed for gaming. The PS3 uses very little system resources to play DVD's so there is plenty left over to upscale images via software.
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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="Shu76"][QUOTE="matteno1"]

Been struggling to find official news on the web regardning the PS3's ability to upscale regular DVD:s. As far as I can tell, it couldn't do it out of the box at launch, but Sony were working on a software solution. Anyone sitting on anything official?

ITaLiaN_BrO_699


PS3 CANNOT UPSCALE DVDS!!!! Only regular Blu-Ray Players can!!

Yeah, all it will take is a firmware update. Honestly, the processor required to upscale a dvd, like the ones used in standard BR players, is nothing compared to the Cell. While playing a movie, the ps3 isn't doing much of anything else, and could easily use the Cell as an upscaler. Of course, that would only be necessary if the internal scaler rumors turn out to be false. However, the ps3 can upscale certain things now, and this is supposedly due to an internal hardware scaler, according to Beyond3D.

ps3 is possible to upscale dvds but its not because of the cell, its going to be hard for sony to make this possible because the ps3 doesn't have a great scaler i've been hearing, i think it will be added in the march update...im sure its possible

I love seeing people post about something they know nothing about.
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Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.
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DVD's look like crap currently, but if they upscale they should look better than most dvd players. Maybe not better than an upscaling one....... I have a dvd-player that was rated as one of the best a few years back, and I still hope for the PS3 to upscale to see if it beats my regular dvd player - would make it easier with connections to the receiver right now.......
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#16 rickspin
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Right now, the PS3 can't scale anything. Maybe in the future it will be able to.b11051973
Actually if your display settings are set to 1080i/p or 720p and you play any video it just starts. The display still says 1080 (or whatever) even if the video was recorded at a lower resolution so that's some sort of upscaling isnt it? Besides right now every PS1/PS2 game shows up in 480p. I know it not much yet but maybe is a basic use of the upscaler.
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The PS3 could easily upscaled DVDs. Just like with the VLC player in linux, Sony just needs to develop a software upscaler, rather than a hardware scaler, like the 360 and most stand alones have. Since it's just playing a movie and not a game, the system resources it would use wouldn't matter. They could just have the cell perform the operation, and then output in 720 or 1080.

I really think the move to not include this feature is two fold

  1. Sony really wants to push BluRay with the PS3, they don't want people to just play DVDs with it.
  2. Including this feature would make the PS3 superior to all the stand alones in just about every way. This would deter other manufacturers from making BD players.

As for no scaling in games, the lack of a hardware scaler makes it near impossible, as the system resources need to go to the game. It's better developers just make their games to run natively in 480, 720 and 1080. Personally I can't see why people would want a 720p native game upscaled to 1080, it would be neglegable. For PS2 titles, seems pretty valid. But then again, Sony prolly doesn't want people buying PS2 titles for the PS3.

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Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.Radiozo
:| How? It's digital and not analogue so your claim makes absolutely no sense.
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The PS3 could easily upscaled DVDs. Just like with the VLC player in linux, Sony just needs to develop a software upscaler, rather than a hardware scaler, like the 360 and most stand alones have. Since it's just playing a movie and not a game, the system resources it would use wouldn't matter. They could just have the cell perform the operation, and then output in 720 or 1080.

I really think the move to not include this feature is two fold

  1. Sony really wants to push BluRay with the PS3, they don't want people to just play DVDs with it.
  2. Including this feature would make the PS3 superior to all the stand alones in just about every way. This would deter other manufacturers from making BD players.

As for no scaling in games, the lack of a hardware scaler makes it near impossible, as the system resources need to go to the game. It's better developers just make their games to run natively in 480, 720 and 1080. Personally I can't see why people would want a 720p native game upscaled to 1080, it would be neglegable. For PS2 titles, seems pretty valid. But then again, Sony prolly doesn't want people buying PS2 titles for the PS3.

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The PS3 could easily upscaled DVDs.

michaelareb0001


If it's so easy,  why doesn't it out of the box?
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[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]

The PS3 could easily upscaled DVDs.

m3Boarder32


If it's so easy,  why doesn't it out of the box?

Because then it wouldn't have all the 'potential' people keep getting so excited about.
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[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]

The PS3 could easily upscaled DVDs.

m3Boarder32



If it's so easy,  why doesn't it out of the box?

I already addressed why it doesn't later in my post. You need to read more. I could be wrong, but it seems more than logical. The processor can handle it, and PCs have been doing it for years without an internal scaler via codecs. It obviously a choice on Sony's part, wether it be because they don't want it to, or they feel the time spent and money doing so could be used to improve more important things, like improving game performance, or adding more media functionality or an online component.

Shakes head. Too many people on here just don't read things or do any research.

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Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.Radiozo
how come i can't see this in my ps3???!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!
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[QUOTE="Radiozo"]Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.ermacness
how come i can't see this in my ps3???!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!



Compared to my 200$ standalone DVD player the PS3 is worse at everything. I doubt upscaling will change much. You cant adjust color or anything on the PS3.
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if a dvd standard resolution is 480.....how can it be upscaled.  Just like a movie that is not filmed in HD is not going to look in better in a HD format.
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#26 Radiozo
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If you have a good TV it is probably better to let the TV scale the image for you.
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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Radiozo"]Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.Radiozo
how come i can't see this in my ps3???!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!



Compared to my 200$ standalone DVD player the PS3 is worse at everything. I doubt upscaling will change much. You cant adjust color or anything on the PS3.

install linux and use ex. VLC player, that should do the trick as it got all the functions you could ask for..
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[QUOTE="Radiozo"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Radiozo"]Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.VonGak
how come i can't see this in my ps3???!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!



Compared to my 200$ standalone DVD player the PS3 is worse at everything. I doubt upscaling will change much. You cant adjust color or anything on the PS3.

install linux and use ex. VLC player, that should do the trick as it got all the functions you could ask for..

I have the vlc player, and i have a hard enough time getting it to play at all, let alone upscale what it's playing. What's your secret?
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#29 Radiozo
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[QUOTE="Radiozo"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Radiozo"]Why bother. DVD's look like crap on PS3 anyways.VonGak
how come i can't see this in my ps3???!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!



Compared to my 200$ standalone DVD player the PS3 is worse at everything. I doubt upscaling will change much. You cant adjust color or anything on the PS3.

install linux and use ex. VLC player, that should do the trick as it got all the functions you could ask for..



No need. If I wanna run VLC which  I think suck by the way, I can do that on my PC. :D