Video Games And Morals ~ Symphonycometh Edition

While I hold in all needs to flame Sony to kingdom come thine's will be done for giving me the YLOD to my beloved 60gig model, let's discuss morals and video games in the same sentence. lol

What are your exact thoughts when it comes to morals and values with video games? Do you take them into consideration before you buy the games? Do you take them into effect while playing the games? Do you think gaming has become a bit too immoral? Too little? All that here and more (I hope) on this thread. Share all thoughts and debate with intelligence!

As a subtopic, any and all free and easy ways to fix that yellow light would be grand. lol

I consider them when I'm looking at a game to buy. Mostly because we have kids at our house from time to time, and there are certain things that they don't need to see. That doesn't mean I won't buy the game, it just means that it's a game that won't be played while kids are around. Games like GTA, Killzone, and God of War. I also consider the language that's used in the games I play. Even if someone can't see what I'm playing they can hear what's being said. Frankly, I don't see the point of having bad language in games... IMO it doesn't enhance the gameplay. (This goes for movies too) I respect the devs for having freedom with their art, and I'm glad that they can have that freedom... I just don't always agree with the content. So, it basically comes down to what I want my kids to see me doing. jshaas

Why do you think bad language should not be used in movies? It's a huge part of everyday life. Guarentee your kids hear ENOUGH swearing at school...and if they aren't at school yet, well, they will when they get there.

I would love to hear your reasoning for this. Lets take saving private ryan for instance ? There is tons of swearing in that movie. All of it justifiable in my opinion. Imagina how silly/commical that movie would have been if say the soldiers instead of dropping F bombs said something like "darn it" all the time. lol

[QUOTE="jshaas"]I consider them when I'm looking at a game to buy. Mostly because we have kids at our house from time to time, and there are certain things that they don't need to see. That doesn't mean I won't buy the game, it just means that it's a game that won't be played while kids are around. Games like GTA, Killzone, and God of War. I also consider the language that's used in the games I play. Even if someone can't see what I'm playing they can hear what's being said. Frankly, I don't see the point of having bad language in games... IMO it doesn't enhance the gameplay. (This goes for movies too) I respect the devs for having freedom with their art, and I'm glad that they can have that freedom... I just don't always agree with the content. So, it basically comes down to what I want my kids to see me doing. KapG

Why do you think bad language should not be used in movies? It's a huge part of everyday life. Guarentee your kids hear ENOUGH swearing at school...and if they aren't at school yet, well, they will when they get there.

I would love to hear your reasoning for this. Lets take saving private ryan for instance ? There is tons of swearing in that movie. All of it justifiable in my opinion. Imagina how silly/commical that movie would have been if say the soldiers instead of dropping F bombs said something like "darn it" all the time. lol

Yes, to a degree I take morals into consideration when getting a game. I havn't played Grand Theft Auto for that very reason. Although I don't mind the violence and language, its got to have a time and place for it in order for it not to bug me. Mugging a person, shooting police officers is a lot different when you play as a criminal as apposed to playing a military officer stealing conviscating cars and shooting terrorists. Even though its the same thing, the circumstances are different.

I will play games like Infamous, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Prototype, so long as I have a "choice". Games where you are intentionally the bad guy to do bad things just bug me too much. Its when players don't have that option to tone it downthat it becomes an issue for me.I got platinum on Mercs 2, but I didn't hijack cars or kill civilians. I had a choice so my morals didn't bug me.

I do think games are becomming more immoral and taking things a bit too far, but so long as there are ratings and people are given choices, it doesn't bother me. God of War III is a bit too much, but its God of War.Being able to take drugs and benifit from them in Fallout 3 seems a little much, but its not out of place for that game andyou arn't forced to use them.

That being said, I don't see the reason to have morally corrupt games out there other than shock value. I'm not saying replace Helgast with bunnies, but having an option to turn off Rico's "Jesus Christ!" or all his needless cursingevery time he gets shot at wouldn't hurt sales. As time goes on, games become more violent, they curse more and touchy subjects are tackled more often (like sex in games). Is it wrong? Nah... Is it needed? Nah... Should I have a choice to play a great game without that crap?...sure why not? More games would sell if you could turn that M rated game into a T rated one.

So...hypothetically speaking, more so to view the other side with more depth than it is an actual dig at the other side: Would that mean the people who choose not to apply their own morals (if any) into gaming have "lesser" morals than those that do?Symphonycometh

Morals are fake...

Example 1 - Religion: if you don't submit or adhere to the ways of God(s) you are condemned.

Example 2 - Governments / Businesses: They wag their hypocritical finger at you killing (and many other assorted nonsenses), yet war is one of their favorite tools.

Example 3 - Humans: They'll chow down on a beef and swine while being critical of the Mike Vicks of the world, leaving the Sarah Palins hunting from a copter and killing a moose or wolf.

Point is a game is only a game, as a movie is only a movie and a song is only a song. Hitler didn't play video games, Genghis Khan didn't play video games or watch movies, and they were heinous f-tards.

Another point to sing about is the fact that if you are damaged already, a video game may be something to mock or concern yourself w/, but if you are a rational creature and can separate fiction from reality then how could it matter what the game has as its content? However, the problem here is that most numbsacks believe themselves rational. This obviously isn't true...please see above examples. Yet, your morality stands as much a chance in swaying your actions as a plunger has in fixing the world's issues. Play it all and if you are too feeble minded to handle what you see or hear then I suggest a vault to hide you and yourphony morality in, because this world is built upon thought and not actual morals.

Wait...as an earlier post said...I'm too drunk for this. So drink up, have a smoke and call it a day.

Morals are fake...

Example 1 - Religion: if you don't submit or adhere to the ways of God(s) you are condemned.

Example 2 - Governments / Businesses: They wag their hypocritical finger at you killing (and many other assorted nonsenses), yet war is one of their favorite tools.

Example 3 - Humans: They'll chow down on a beef and swine while being critical of the Mike Vicks of the world, leaving the Sarah Palins hunting from a copter and killing a moose or wolf.

Point is a game is only a game, as a movie is only a movie and a song is only a song. Hitler didn't play video games, Genghis Khan didn't play video games or watch movies, and they were heinous f-tards.

Another point to sing about is the fact that if you are damaged already, a video game may be something to mock or concern yourself w/, but if you are a rational creature and can separate fiction from reality then how could it matter what the game has as its content? However, the problem here is that most numbsacks believe themselves rational. This obviously isn't true...please see above examples. Yet, your morality stands as much a chance in swaying your actions as a plunger has in fixing the world's issues. Play it all and if you are too feeble minded to handle what you see or hear then I suggest a vault to hide you and yourphony morality in, because this world is built upon thought and not actual morals.

Wait...as an earlier post said...I'm too drunk for this. So drink up, have a smoke and call it a day.

dgrief

And seriously, what kind of rational being believes in such a thing as "bad" words? If that isn't the most infantile thing in the world...seriously...words that are bad? WTF!!! I'm pretty sure all of humankind may be retarded...including myself (don't panic in your natural arrogance). Wow! "Bad" words, after all this time, are still a concern. -hangs head in defeat-