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#1 piemister
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i actually realy enjoyed killzone 1 and i think alot of the Wii and MS fanboys are useing that numba one suked as their exuse to ignore kilzone 2s greatness. im realy looking  forward to it.

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the single player was crap and deserved the scores it got but online was AAA material,the weapons,animations.art style were all great to. if you havent played it online yet get urself a copie cause it was great
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I just rented it last week and thought it was great.  It had great animations and the AI was good.  The audio really needed some help though.
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I just rented it last week and thought it was great. It had great animations and the AI was good. The audio really needed some help though.emitsu97

the AI was horrible. and the collision detection was horrid, and many glitches.

but overall it was a good game, i like the intro, the story and the weapon animation, but hated the fact that you play as 4 diff character.WTF  give me someone tht can keep up with the chief at least.

 

killzone liberation is also great, and if you have a psp don't miss it. 

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#5 emitsu97
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I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.
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#6 jechtshot78
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It isnt really "Bad" Per say. However, it is difficult, needs a control scheme overhual(Which you can do in the options), and is pretty average as far a FPS gameplay goes.
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#7 __-Vickfan4-__
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I liked it alot....the online was great and the story was good but the AI sucked and that was my only argument.
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#8 Ryusuken
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It simply didnt lived up to the hype it received from everyone. It was hyped as 'that game' killer, and it didnt got that far. So, it became the greatest flop ever (to Sony haters) because, even if it was a good game, it didnt live up to what people want it to be.
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#9 eclipsed4utoo
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I thought it was a decent game. It wasn't the best game ever for the PS2, but it wasn't the worst either. I don't feel cheated for buying the game. I feel that my money was well spent. but I do agree with the TC. I think that alot of the xbox fanboys are just saying that the first Killzone sucked so they will have a believe that the second one will suck also. They just don't want to believe that a game can get better. they also know that if Killzone PS3 is a huge success, then the PS3 will take off.
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#10 emitsu97
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Didn't it only have like 20 people on it's dev team? I don't think Sony ever hyped it, it was more of a media expectation.
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#11 doolies
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I personally really enjoyed the game. Thought it was great fun. Looked brilliant as well, I remember sitting down and playing it for the first time. Damn that start sequence is amazing.
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#12 Mcortijo01
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I know Killzone was not the greatest game ever made but it was still a very good game. The story mode was good and playing online was great.

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#13 teebeenz
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Killzone was an average game which was supposed to be an average game, but forum idiots hyped it as a halo style game and when it wasnt people freaked out and said it was crap etc. Its an okay game but its not a leading title, nor was it ment to be.
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#14 freakick
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I just rented it last week and thought it was great. It had great animations and the AI was good. The audio really needed some help though.PowerCharged

the AI was horrible. and the collision detection was horrid, and many glitches.

but overall it was a good game, i like the intro, the story and the weapon animation, but hated the fact that you play as 4 diff character.WTF  give me someone tht can keep up with the chief at least.

 

killzone liberation is also great, and if you have a psp don't miss it. 

right on. I hated the part when we had to choose 4 charecters. It was just too much work, and in a way, it took out a Wee bit of excitment.
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#15 ludacriss
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No way. People are overreacting. Killzone 1 was good.
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#16 Nene33
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No way. People are overreacting. Killzone 1 was good.ludacriss

Absolutely Killzone 1 was good.

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#17 tubarao1
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i liked killzone. more the online than single player. GS was unfaired with this game.
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#18 donalbane
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Conceptually solid, but technically it was over-ambitious.  They tried to do things beyond what the PS2 was capable of.  It's clear whenever you approach an ally and their face texture takes 2 seconds to load.  Kinda scary.

The enemies (helghast) were good and scary though, and I like the cutscenes.  I just didn't think the playable class variety ended up playing a significant role in differentiating the gameplay.  Overall, a fairly generic experience with some big technical problems. 

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#19 -MoOkS-
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personly i think im the best killzone player in the world lol...seriously i beat every person in the EU server and i got my ps2 bios flashed and ntsc copy so i could play on the US server and i destroyed evryone i played

i had 1 GOA profile

1 General

1 lt general

2 profiles i had zero fodders and cowards

insane kill death ratio(i only used shotgun sniper helg and isa pistol grenades and assault rifles)

anyone wanna play again just send me a PM on here

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It was horrible, and whoever said the AI was good can stop lying to themsleves, it is honestly the WORST noteable FPS on PS2 and i do not know why it is praised so much. Probably because it was the only exclusive one. It had so much linear gameplay it was annoying, and for people to think killzone 2 will be a Resistance or Halo Killer is appalling. If only resistance wasnt rused to be a launch title, they made that game in 8 months people.
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KZ1 was a fantastic experience for me. Most people who dog it are solely going on the mediocre reviews it got from sites like GS (which were fairly groteque to put it lightly) and have never played it or were very influenced by the reviews that when they did play ten minutes of it they just insisted on disliking it. Any which way, each to his/her own. I'm glad I'm one that can think for myself; it's a good virtue that not many people have. To me it was a great art piece with a great stroy line made for growth. I loved it.

Also, if over 2 million copies sold world wide it couldn't have been half as bad as a lot of people would make you believe.

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I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.emitsu97

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless. 

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killzone 1 had plenty of hype ....they even had it on the cover of "The Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine" i still have that issue.
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#24 chubear700
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I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.emitsu97
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. The first time I played halo I was JACKED! I was soooo looking forward to this game that I'd heard so much about but when I played it I was like "WTH, this is like an average FPS" - with smooth controls being a bonus on a console. Then halo2 came out and the planet went nuts. I had to play the game... but again I was just baffled at how the series has ganared this god like status. The MP in halo 2 is very fun but not very challenging but the bottom line is that it's a blast to play online but still... like WTH?

If halo was a PlayStation, title it would have just been one of the great games to play in it's vast libary but not really an out right stand out.

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#25 jshigashi
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It was just okay.  Socom owns it
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#26 chubear700
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killzone 1 had plenty of hype ....they even had it on the cover of "The Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine" i still have that issue.360player_eq12
That's what you call hype?
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#27 chubear700
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It was just okay.  Socom owns itjshigashi
Well, that goes what out saying really. Socom multiplayer is just simply outstanding but the MP in KZ is good too but not much in the way of options which I feel will be addressed with KZ2.
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#28 PowerCharged
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It was just okay. Socom owns itjshigashi

 definitely. but story wise killzone owns

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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.PowerCharged

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless.

But what makes Chief cool?  Kratos is easily a bad mamojama.  Snake is easily a bad mamojama.  Chief has zero character/personality. 

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I don't think the game was bad, I just think it was mediocre. There were much better shooters on the PS2 that enough people didn't give a chance like Deus Ex, Project Snowblind, and Red Faction.
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Think that's what u call hyping your game before its out i could be wrong tho.
[QUOTE="360player_eq12"]killzone 1 had plenty of hype ....they even had it on the cover of "The Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine" i still have that issue.chubear700
That's what you call hype?

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KZ1 was a fantastic experience for me. Most people who dog it are solely going on the mediocre reviews it got from sites like GS (which were fairly groteque to put it lightly) and have never played it or were very influenced by the reviews that when they did play ten minutes of it they just insisted on disliking it. Any which way, each to his/her own. I'm glad I'm one that can think for myself; it's a good virtue that not many people have. To me it was a great art piece with a great stroy line made for growth. I loved it.

Also, if over 2 million copies sold world wide it couldn't have been half as bad as a lot of people would make you believe.

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#33 chubear700
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.PowerCharged

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless. 

What?!? Hakka was the s*! I loved playing his Xter :D ... erm, and since when is having the option of playing 3 addtional Xters and bad thing? That's a mind bogguling statement me thinks.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="chubear700"]

KZ1 was a fantastic experience for me. Most people who dog it are solely going on the mediocre reviews it got from sites like GS (which were fairly groteque to put it lightly) and have never played it or were very influenced by the reviews that when they did play ten minutes of it they just insisted on disliking it. Any which way, each to his/her own. I'm glad I'm one that can think for myself; it's a good virtue that not many people have. To me it was a great art piece with a great stroy line made for growth. I loved it.

Also, if over 2 million copies sold world wide it couldn't have been half as bad as a lot of people would make you believe.

chubear700

Insult others on their opinions, nice.

Oh boy, you again. And where is this insult you write about? be gone with you troll.

 Everyone knows I am not a troll, but whatever makes you sleep at night. You used to bash the PS3.

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Think that's what u call hyping your game before its out i could be wrong tho.[QUOTE="chubear700"][QUOTE="360player_eq12"]killzone 1 had plenty of hype ....they even had it on the cover of "The Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine" i still have that issue.360player_eq12
That's what you call hype?

Well of course they want to get their game noticed I mean, who the hell doesn't publicise their games they feel are great? But the whole halo killer thing never came from Sony or it's development, if it did their would be tonnes of quotes on the net about it. The halo killer thing was a media thing and had nothing to do with the normal publishing of the product.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="chubear700"]

KZ1 was a fantastic experience for me. Most people who dog it are solely going on the mediocre reviews it got from sites like GS (which were fairly groteque to put it lightly) and have never played it or were very influenced by the reviews that when they did play ten minutes of it they just insisted on disliking it. Any which way, each to his/her own. I'm glad I'm one that can think for myself; it's a good virtue that not many people have. To me it was a great art piece with a great stroy line made for growth. I loved it.

Also, if over 2 million copies sold world wide it couldn't have been half as bad as a lot of people would make you believe.

chubear700

Insult others on their opinions, nice.

Oh boy, you again. And where is this insult you write about? be gone with you troll.

 I guess the proof is in the pudding:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25588541

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25588536

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25586760

You got me. You are quite the detective. I guess people aren't allowed to like and dislike things about all 3 consoles in your world.

Btw, Killzone is definitely worth buying for $10 if you've never played it.

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I thought it was a really good game, it was a little rough around the edges. Can't wait for Killzone 2 on the PS3.
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[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.emitsu97

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless.

But what makes Chief cool? Kratos is easily a bad mamojama. Snake is easily a bad mamojama. Chief has zero character/personality.

 

dude you got it all wrong. to the lemmings masterchief is cool. but for me he a POS. when someone that can stand againts him i meant story wise. example solid snake have a strong background of doing awsome things, and so does kratos, i guess what im asking for is an iconic character. and i have the same problem with RFOM, the main guy is just a nobody, well i guess since he is half chimera now, and was arested by the black ops in the sequel he might be better. 

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[QUOTE="chubear700"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="chubear700"]

KZ1 was a fantastic experience for me. Most people who dog it are solely going on the mediocre reviews it got from sites like GS (which were fairly groteque to put it lightly) and have never played it or were very influenced by the reviews that when they did play ten minutes of it they just insisted on disliking it. Any which way, each to his/her own. I'm glad I'm one that can think for myself; it's a good virtue that not many people have. To me it was a great art piece with a great stroy line made for growth. I loved it.

Also, if over 2 million copies sold world wide it couldn't have been half as bad as a lot of people would make you believe.

BioShockOwnz

Insult others on their opinions, nice.

Oh boy, you again. And where is this insult you write about? be gone with you troll.

 Everyone knows I am not a troll, but whatever makes you sleep at night. You used to bash the PS3.

People may forget, but I don't. You were a hugh troll on these forums last year and I got you and a number of trolls banned for a while. I've NEVER bashed the PS3 and if you take a look at my profile you'll see that I've been a PS supporter from the the day I joined GS in 2003. You know you used to talk crap about the PS3 and then you went out and bought a launch PS3. You'd always say the PS3 only had one game you would ever play on it and that was HS but this year you want to play like 10 titles already. I don't forget people like you and that's why you made my top ten.
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dude you got it all wrong. to the lemmings masterchief is cool. but for me he a POS. when someone that can stand againts him i meant story wise. example solid snake have a strong background of doing awsome things, and so does kratos, i guess what im asking for is an iconic character. and i have the same problem with RFOM, the main guy is just a nobody, well i guess since he is half chimera now, and was arested by the black ops in the sequel he might be better. PowerCharged

I agree with you about Hale.  At minimum, main characters need to have an audible voice. 

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#42 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"][QUOTE="PowerCharged"]

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.PowerCharged

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless.

But what makes Chief cool? Kratos is easily a bad mamojama. Snake is easily a bad mamojama. Chief has zero character/personality.

 

dude you got it all wrong. to the lemmings masterchief is cool. but for me he a POS. when someone that can stand againts him i meant story wise. example solid snake have a strong background of doing awsome things, and so does kratos, i guess what im asking for is an iconic character. and i have the same problem with RFOM, the main guy is just a nobody, well i guess since he is half chimera now, and was arested by the black ops in the sequel he might be better. 

I agree, but what if that nobody (Nathan Hale) turns into somebody (an iconic character)? He is obviously transforming throughout the game, and I think Resistance 2 will be very epic, and change how we all feel toward Resistance.

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Oh boy, you again. And where is this insult you write about? be gone with you troll.

 Everyone knows I am not a troll, but whatever makes you sleep at night. You used to bash the PS3.

People may forget, but I don't. You were a hugh troll on these forums last year and I got you and a number of trolls banned for a while. I've NEVER bashed the PS3 and if you take a look at my profile you'll see that I've been a PS supporter from the the day I joined GS in 2003. You know you used to talk crap about the PS3 and then you went out and bought a launch PS3. You'd always say the PS3 only had one game you would ever play on it and that was HS but this year you want to play like 10 titles already. I don't forget people like you and that's why you made my top ten.

 So, I am a troll because I want Heavenly Sword more then any game? That remains true. Talk intelligently instead of trying to insult me and others for our opinions on games. Just because you don't enjoy some games doesn't mean you're a troll. I have said more positive then negative, so whatever man.

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#44 PowerCharged
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[QUOTE="emitsu97"]I can't figure out why people consider Chief to be this bad mamojama.BioShockOwnz

people like to play with cool leading character. templar was ok but since you were forced to play with 3 other character the excitement went away and you don't get to know him. luger was a girl and i don't like girls as lead character, rico was just barbaric and his eavy weapons are just for noobs who can't aim so they spray bullets hoping that they will get a head shot. hakka was useless.

But what makes Chief cool? Kratos is easily a bad mamojama. Snake is easily a bad mamojama. Chief has zero character/personality.

 

dude you got it all wrong. to the lemmings masterchief is cool. but for me he a POS. when someone that can stand againts him i meant story wise. example solid snake have a strong background of doing awsome things, and so does kratos, i guess what im asking for is an iconic character. and i have the same problem with RFOM, the main guy is just a nobody, well i guess since he is half chimera now, and was arested by the black ops in the sequel he might be better.

I agree, but what if that nobody (Nathan Hale) turns into somebody (an iconic character)? He is obviously transforming throughout the game, and I think Resistance 2 will be very epic, and change how we all feel toward Resistance.

that's exactly what i want.

"SuperCharged" is the name add me to your friends list if you have a ps3. maybe we can duke it out later. 

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#45 PowerCharged
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[QUOTE="PowerCharged"]dude you got it all wrong. to the lemmings masterchief is cool. but for me he a POS. when someone that can stand againts him i meant story wise. example solid snake have a strong background of doing awsome things, and so does kratos, i guess what im asking for is an iconic character. and i have the same problem with RFOM, the main guy is just a nobody, well i guess since he is half chimera now, and was arested by the black ops in the sequel he might be better. emitsu97

I agree with you about Hale. At minimum, main characters need to have an audible voice.

my opinion about templar has changed BTW, i was refering to him based on KZ 1. but after playing liberation i started liking him and i hope that in KZ Ps3 playing with him will be epic.

BTW. do you want a cover sytem in KZ ps3. i mean with those long @$$ reloading animation sequences, a cover system is a must have. 95% of my demise in resisance is done while im reloading. 

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I agree, but what if that nobody (Nathan Hale) turns into somebody (an iconic character)? He is obviously transforming throughout the game, and I think Resistance 2 will be very epic, and change how we all feel toward Resistance.

that's exactly what i want.

"SuperCharged" is the name add me to your friends list if you have a ps3. maybe we can duke it out later. 

I'll add you if you wanna play online sometime.

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I liked the game as well, Online was pretty insane which was awsome!
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#48 PowerCharged
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BioShockOwnz

I agree, but what if that nobody (Nathan Hale) turns into somebody (an iconic character)? He is obviously transforming throughout the game, and I think Resistance 2 will be very epic, and change how we all feel toward Resistance.

that's exactly what i want.

"SuperCharged" is the name add me to your friends list if you have a ps3. maybe we can duke it out later.

I'll add you if you wanna play online sometime.

 no problem. (BTW im with you on heavenly swords. i think the will rock)

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I liked the game as well, Online was pretty insane which was awsome!Stryder_18

there are so many cheater now itsnot even funny 

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#50 J-REAL
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CAN YOU STILL PLAY KZ1 ONLINE OR ARE THERE SERVERS DOWN?