What are the chances the PSP2 will be backwards compatible?

You think Sony will use UMD again just with a dual layer type thing and maybe a faster read speed?

I have a ton of PSP games and it would be great if i could play them on my PSP2, whenever that thing comes out.

I thought therumors were against UMD. Perhaps they'll extend some sort of PSN compatability, like now with PS1 games, but unfortunately no UMD, I think.Daavpuke

[QUOTE="Daavpuke"]I thought therumors were against UMD. Perhaps they'll extend some sort of PSN compatability, like now with PS1 games, but unfortunately no UMD, I think.Kokuro_Kun

They haven't announced one so I'd stop holding my breath, crossing my fingers, and doing the fanboy antsy-dance because it just ain't gonna happen, and if they do I'm sure the UMD will not be a part of it as that format has led to meglomaniacal piracy.

They haven't announced one so I'd stop holding my breath, crossing my fingers, and doing the fanboy antsy-dance because it just ain't gonna happen, and if they do I'm sure the UMD will not be a part of it as that format has led to meglomaniacal piracy.

MonkeySpot

You think Sony will use UMD again just with a dual layer type thing and maybe a faster read speed?

I have a ton of PSP games and it would be great if i could play them on my PSP2, whenever that thing comes out.

Kokuro_Kun

It definately is a not a bad idea. The 3DS is backwards and the PS3 was no PS2 ready and they should have done that.

If it's BC, I'm willing to bet that it's PSN versions-only. I seriously cannot imagine Sony adding a UMD drive to the PSP2. It was just too much of a flop as a format to justify continuing with. I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched optical media altogether. LongZhiZi

i would hate this idea if they did that.

They'll have to have SOME way for people to get their UMD's to their new PSP at home (without having to take it to a kiosk to have someone do it). That was one of the epic-failure points for the PSP GO..and quite a terribly design flaw on Sony's part.millerjs1986

The UMD is just a mini DVD in a case. Its exactly a format what else uses it beside PSP.

I can see it, but only for the downloadable games, not UMD, Sony will get rid of that format.

[QUOTE="millerjs1986"]They'll have to have SOME way for people to get their UMD's to their new PSP at home (without having to take it to a kiosk to have someone do it). That was one of the epic-failure points for the PSP GO..and quite a terribly design flaw on Sony's part.Coolyfett

The UMD is just a mini DVD in a case. Its exactly a format what else uses it beside PSP.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="millerjs1986"]They'll have to have SOME way for people to get their UMD's to their new PSP at home (without having to take it to a kiosk to have someone do it). That was one of the epic-failure points for the PSP GO..and quite a terribly design flaw on Sony's part.millerjs1986

The UMD is just a mini DVD in a case. Its exactly a format what else uses it beside PSP.

Don't excite him, it only gets worse.

You think Sony will use UMD again just with a dual layer type thing and maybe a faster read speed?

I have a ton of PSP games and it would be great if i could play them on my PSP2, whenever that thing comes out.

Kokuro_Kun

UMDs are already dual layer. Each layer holds 900MB. If they stick with optical the next step I guess would be a mini/micro blu-ray.

I kinda hope that the PSP2 will be fully backwards compatible. But yeah, it doesn't seem likely.

The UMD is just a mini DVD in a case. Its exactly a format what else uses it beside PSP.

Coolyfett

No, mini DVDs are physically larger; UMD is more like a "micro" DVD.

I think that the psp2 will be BC only with psn games. Sony will not have a umd drive because they want you to always be connected and thats what theyre going to try and revamp up to the psp2s release. However I think that since the GO was an "experiment to see how the consumer will react to a DD only system," sony is going to have some sort of physical media on the psp2.I have no idea what it would be though and your guys' guess is as good as mine over the next physical media.

Ona side note, i do now remember reading from an insider on the ign forums that the psp2 will have an always connected fuctionality about it. Im hoping a wireless service provider.

I think that the psp2 will be BC only with psn games. Sony will not have a umd drive because they want you to always be connected and thats what theyre going to try and revamp up to the psp2s release. However I think that since the GO was an "experiment to see how the consumer will react to a DD only system," sony is going to have some sort of physical media on the psp2.I have no idea what it would be though and your guys' guess is as good as mine over the next physical media.

Ona side note, i do now remember reading from an insider on the ign forums that the psp2 will have an always connected fuctionality about it. Im hoping a wireless service provider.

damann22

Always connected? Even if it had a cellular-based wireless the connection can still be interrupted by dead zones, network outages, and poor signals inside many buildings. I just don't see that concept going over well on a handheld. (it's problematic enough on many home internet connections)

[QUOTE="damann22"]

I think that the psp2 will be BC only with psn games. Sony will not have a umd drive because they want you to always be connected and thats what theyre going to try and revamp up to the psp2s release. However I think that since the GO was an "experiment to see how the consumer will react to a DD only system," sony is going to have some sort of physical media on the psp2.I have no idea what it would be though and your guys' guess is as good as mine over the next physical media.

Ona side note, i do now remember reading from an insider on the ign forums that the psp2 will have an always connected fuctionality about it. Im hoping a wireless service provider.

ThePlothole

Always connected? Even if it had a cellular-based wireless the connection can still be interrupted by dead zones, network outages, and poor signals inside many buildings. I just don't see that concept going over well on a handheld. (it's problematic enough on many home internet connections)

The iphone does it so why not on a dedicated gaming handheld? And unlike a phone which is ALWAYS CONNECTED, i am implying that you can turn it on or off like you would a standard home connection. Thus youre truely mobile with access all the time, relatively speaking.

Im thinking outside the box of what a handheld is capable of at this current gen. Im still tethered to a hotspot be it at home, restaurant, or interent cafe and a true "go everywhere" device should have the option, not a dedication, of a wireless service like that of a phone.

Yes i know that a wireless provider like sprint or at&t have to get on board and it will have some added contract fee, but its something that will some consumers would greatly appriciate. Especially those like myself who are away from home the majority of the day.

With downloaded stuff, probably. But Sony isn't dumb enough to use UMDs again. They should try and use mini Blu-Rays or cartridges.

yeah i could see them releasing some on PSN but yeah i def dont think it would have a optical drive this time around. So full BC probably isnt happening. My guess is they are gonna go with a flash based option like Nintendo. You can still get alot of space and it will extend your batt life by miles.

The iphone does it so why not on a dedicated gaming handheld? And unlike a phone which is ALWAYS CONNECTED, i am implying that you can turn it on or off like you would a standard home connection. Thus youre truely mobile with access all the time, relatively speaking.

Im thinking outside the box of what a handheld is capable of at this current gen. Im still tethered to a hotspot be it at home, restaurant, or interent cafe and a true "go everywhere" device should have the option, not a dedication, of a wireless service like that of a phone.

Yes i know that a wireless provider like sprint or at&t have to get on board and it will have some added contract fee, but its something that will some consumers would greatly appriciate. Especially those like myself who are away from home the majority of the day.

damann22

Okay, I thought you were referring to a DRM method that required the system to retain a constant internet connection. Much like what Ubi has implemented on the PC.

Yeah, Flash Memory is the way to go..nintendo has always had it right, with handhelds (as far as the storage medium).

millerjs1986

Technically speaking cartridges use some type of Read-Only Memory, not Flash, to store the actual game.

Yeah, Flash Memory is the way to go..nintendo has always had it right, with handhelds (as far as the storage medium).

millerjs1986

Technically speaking cartridges use some type of Read-Only Memory, not Flash, to store the actual game.

[QUOTE="damann22"]

The iphone does it so why not on a dedicated gaming handheld? And unlike a phone which is ALWAYS CONNECTED, i am implying that you can turn it on or off like you would a standard home connection. Thus youre truely mobile with access all the time, relatively speaking.

Im thinking outside the box of what a handheld is capable of at this current gen. Im still tethered to a hotspot be it at home, restaurant, or interent cafe and a true "go everywhere" device should have the option, not a dedication, of a wireless service like that of a phone.

Yes i know that a wireless provider like sprint or at&t have to get on board and it will have some added contract fee, but its something that will some consumers would greatly appriciate. Especially those like myself who are away from home the majority of the day.

ThePlothole

Okay, I thought you were referring to a DRM method that required the system to retain a constant internet connection. Much like what Ubi has implemented on the PC.

Yeah, Flash Memory is the way to go..nintendo has always had it right, with handhelds (as far as the storage medium).

millerjs1986

Technically speaking cartridges use some type of Read-Only Memory, not Flash, to store the actual game.

No im speaking about something like a 3G enabled iphone. DRM for a handheld is nearly here to with a few games (FTB3, Modnation Racers) and it seems to be growing.

[QUOTE="ThePlotHole"][QUOTE="millerjs1986"]

Yeah, Flash Memory is the way to go..nintendo has always had it right, with handhelds (as far as the storage medium).

millerjs1986

Technically speaking cartridges use some type of Read-Only Memory, not Flash, to store the actual game.

Nowadays, with digital downloads and 2GB cards, UMDs have outlived their usefulness. But without them, the PSP really wouldn't have been the PSP (maybe some people would view this as a good thing, but I wouldn't.)

No one storage medium is better than another, both the MSPD and the UMD have their advantages, and UMDs have a much better cost vs. storage ratio than flash-based media, which may be faster but still costs a lot more than disc-based media.

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"][QUOTE="Daavpuke"]I thought therumors were against UMD. Perhaps they'll extend some sort of PSN compatability, like now with PS1 games, but unfortunately no UMD, I think.Daavpuke

I really think the option of downloadable and a Blu Ray UMD is the way to go. Blu Ray is a different kind of disc then DVD and UMD was basically a mini DVD. The load times on the 2000 and 3000 were a lot faster than the PSP 1000. UMDs of movies was a bad idea and many people did not support it. Unless it was an xclusive movie for the PSP, I dont think it was a good idea. For games though it was a great storage.

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

You think Sony will use UMD again just with a dual layer type thing and maybe a faster read speed?

I have a ton of PSP games and it would be great if i could play them on my PSP2, whenever that thing comes out.

ThePlothole

UMDs are already dual layer. Each layer holds 900MB. If they stick with optical the next step I guess would be a mini/micro blu-ray.

I kinda hope that the PSP2 will be fully backwards compatible. But yeah, it doesn't seem likely.

The UMD is just a mini DVD in a case. Its exactly a format what else uses it beside PSP.

Coolyfett

No, mini DVDs are physically larger; UMD is more like a "micro" DVD.

I see what you mean.

I really don't like the DS or the 3DS for that matter. As long as Sony stays in the gaming business, there will always be a PSP.

If they didn't make the newest model of the same hardware B/C.. why would they make the new hardware B/C?

I'm going to have to say, "No."

I really don't like the DS or the 3DS for that matter. As long as Sony stays in the gaming business, there will always be a PSP.

mralspsp

If they didn't make the newest model of the same hardware B/C.. why would they make the new hardware B/C?

I'm going to have to say, "No."

TrueProphecy22

If they didn't make the newest model of the same hardware B/C.. why would they make the new hardware B/C?

I'm going to have to say, "No."TrueProphecy22

[QUOTE="millerjs1986"][QUOTE="ThePlotHole"]

Technically speaking cartridges use some type of Read-Only Memory, not Flash, to store the actual game.

SakusEnvoy

Nowadays, with digital downloads and 2GB cards, UMDs have outlived their usefulness. But without them, the PSP really wouldn't have been the PSP (maybe some people would view this as a good thing, but I wouldn't.)

Game systems should always have a hard copy. I really love the downloading of games. I Love It, but getting ride of the disk for a Sony handheld is not a good idea. Using A cartridge is really bad, that is not Sonys way. UMD movies was not a good idea but games was a great one.

No Question about it SOny must put UMD BC into PSP2 in some form considering Nintendo 3DS is arleady believe to play DS games. That way you will get more potential buyers upgrading to PSP2. PSP2 will mostly have a new physcial format but i dont get why people wont like the possiblity of a better UMD. I mean more storage, faster speeds etc.PSP107

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]No Question about it SOny must put UMD BC into PSP2 in some form considering Nintendo 3DS is arleady believe to play DS games. That way you will get more potential buyers upgrading to PSP2. PSP2 will mostly have a new physcial format but i dont get why people wont like the possiblity of a better UMD. I mean more storage, faster speeds etc.Coolyfett

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

Or, you could buy games using whatever new format they choose. It's not like Sony to keep a format. No two Sony systems have used the same distribution format.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

No Question about it SOny must put UMD BC into PSP2 in some form considering Nintendo 3DS is arleady believe to play DS games. That way you will get more potential buyers upgrading to PSP2. PSP2 will mostly have a new physcial format but i dont get why people wont like the possiblity of a better UMD. I mean more storage, faster speeds etc.PSP107

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

Or, you could buy games using whatever new format they choose. It's not like Sony to keep a format. No two Sony systems have used the same distribution format.

PSP2 rumours still out? They haven't announced one, get over it people...meconate

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]No Question about it SOny must put UMD BC into PSP2 in some form considering Nintendo 3DS is arleady believe to play DS games. That way you will get more potential buyers upgrading to PSP2. PSP2 will mostly have a new physcial format but i dont get why people wont like the possiblity of a better UMD. I mean more storage, faster speeds etc.Phoenix534

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

Or, you could buy games using whatever new format they choose. It's not like Sony to keep a format. No two Sony systems have used the same distribution format.

They dont need to do what they did with the GO, Direct Downloads is still a new idea for the average consumer, Whatever they put in the UMD shell be it a dvd disc or blu ray they need to incorparate that shell. Most likely to be a mini blu ray type of disc with a 1080p screen. Just imagine.

I'm fairly certain that while the PSP2's screen will be higher resolution, any portable device won't have a 1080p screen for a while. It defeats the purpose of the word 'portable', a screen of that high resolution would be useless unless it's a fairly large screen. It'd be overkill on a screen the size of a PSP, which is already large by portable gaming standards.

I'm fairly certain that while the PSP2's screen will be higher resolution, any portable device won't have a 1080p screen for a while. It defeats the purpose of the word 'portable', a screen of that high resolution would be useless unless it's a fairly large screen. It'd be overkill on a screen the size of a PSP, which is already large by portable gaming standards.

Granpire

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

Coolyfett

Or, you could buy games using whatever new format they choose. It's not like Sony to keep a format. No two Sony systems have used the same distribution format.

They dont need to do what they did with the GO, Direct Downloads is still a new idea for the average consumer, Whatever they put in the UMD shell be it a dvd disc or blu ray they need to incorparate that shell. Most likely to be a mini blu ray type of disc with a 1080p screen. Just imagine.

There's no logical reason why they'd keep the UMD shell in the first place.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

I agree with this. If they take the UMD out not only will I not upgrade, but I would be forced to only buy games on PSN.

PSP107

Or, you could buy games using whatever new format they choose. It's not like Sony to keep a format. No two Sony systems have used the same distribution format.

Hard copy or digital download....The PSP Go was a mistakes....all digital downloading is not a good idea....even the music on many peoples Ipods are ripped cds. Its just not time yet.