What can help Vita surpass PSP

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#1 Lebron181
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When PSP came out, it was revolutionary since the graphics were close to PS2(1.5 if you will). There was a great hype surrounding it and if it weren't for piracy, it would've been a very successful device for Sony. Now that there is alittle demand for gaming devices because of tablets and devices, the market has shrunk. 

Now, the development for full fledge Vita games cost alot of money and the developers don't see a reason to make games on it. The only way that can solve this situation is to just release all the PS2 games available to play on Vita. It is the only logical way in my opinion. What do you guys think?

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#2 MetalHead888
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it can help. i think just more games in general. one thing that i can say though, is that a lot of people dont play games that dont have trophy. ps2 hd remakes sell better then ps2 imports without trophies. sounds dumb, but its true.

 

i bought it - and i love my vita. but i think after the price cut, it is still too expensive (including the memory card)

 

ps+ can help the system. for me, that was the main reason i got the system. if i had to buy games as well on day 1, i would have never bought it

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#3 blueboxdoctor
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I think it needs a big Western(-ish) RPG along the lines of Elder Scrolls or Dark/Demon's Souls (true, it is a JRPG, but it is a nice blend between the two).  I'd really like a Dragon's Dogma, but we're just getting a weird side scroller that I think is also coming to phones and tablets.

GTA would also be nice, I wouldn't be surprised if we get an announcement after the smoke settles from the GTA V release.

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JRPGs.
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#5 famicommander
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It's not going to help. Vita, even if it does recover (which is unlikely at this point) will never come close to the success of the PSP and nobody is going to buy a $200 handheld to play PS2 games. People will probably just download those to their PS4s.
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It just needs more quality games. More quality games that can't be played elsewhere.
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It just needs more quality games. More quality games that can't be played elsewhere.Toxic-Seahorse
QFT it needs great exclusives, but Sony fails to understand this.
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JRPGs.bbkkristian
Lol yes more of this :D
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#10 Lebron181
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The problem is that full fledge games like Uncharted cost alot of money to develop. It doesn't make sense to play those types of games when you can do it on a console. Now, the Vita has games that look like they can be played on the DS. Now, they need hand-held games that are higher level than the PSP/DS games

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#11 Rowettfly
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gta

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#12 Megavideogamer
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The PSP has sold 77 million consoles since Dec 12 2004. PSP 1001,PSP 2001,PSP 3001, PSP Go!,PSP 1000-E. plus all of the special editions of these have helped Sony sell as many Playstation portable handhels as it has sold Playstation 3 consoles. Which are also at 77 Million worldwide.

The PSvita however has sold just 5.2 million consoles since Dec 17th 2011 worldwide. Sony has just recently cut the price of the PSvita to $199.99 worldwide so that should help Sony sell more Playstation Vita systems. Plus there are some new games coming out. Plus the ability to stream PS4 games to play on the PSvita should help.

But Sony originally predicted 10 million PSvita sales in the first year. That didn't happen, So the price cut on the PSvita system and the PSvita memory cards should help. Sony just has to releases more games for the PSvita and make sure that remote play for Playstation 4 games works day one. Sony should promote this. A Playstation 4 and PSvita Bundle may help Sony promote remote play PS4 streaming on the PSvita.

More PSvita games is the key. But Sony will be hard presssed to match the 77 million sold by the Playstation portable. There were new UMD PSP games released in Japan this year in early 2013. There are a few new PSP games in Japan/Asia region. North America/Pal regions the PSP is dead.

Sony has to keep the games for PSvita coming and promote the system in North America. But maybe 25 Million lifetime for PSvita is the best that can happen at this point.

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I know that a lot of people don't want to see ports, but I'd love to see an Elder Scrolls game (Oblivion, maybe?), or GTA4. 

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#14 RollinKaos
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I love my Vita so much more than the PSP. Just seems it was released and then quickly abandoned. Sony maybe coming back around with the PS4 being remote play for the Vita. They pushed the cross over play so hard up the release and to me that never really panned out. I dont own a single cross over game since, seems they were all sports games. 

I like the Killzone game coming up, Dragon's Crown is a fun game (lol I do have a cross over) and there are some on the horizon. They need to push some Vita exclusives and bundle it with the PS4 as well. I do not enjoy most of these indie games that are coming out and they seem to cheapen the system to me.

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I know that a lot of people don't want to see ports, but I'd love to see an Elder Scrolls game (Oblivion, maybe?), or GTA4.

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I completely agree, I think now that Borderlands 2, Assassins Creed and Need for Speed Most Wanted are all on or will be on the vita (and they are all open world games), that an Elder Scrolls could make it on to the Vita. In fact now that we know that minecraft is coming to the vita we know it must be able to handle huge scale maps. Anyway even if Elder Scrolls doesn't make it, a GTA game almost certainly will, thanks to the huge success of the PSP versions and the knowledge that the Vita can easily hold big city maps, it would similar to Assassins Creed, just modern and in an interesting city, personally I wouldn't mind if they did just port an Elder Scrolls or GTA, decent ports are better than nothing.

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#16 gregbmil
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It has already surpassed the PSP for me.   I use my Vita way more than I ever used my PSP.   

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#17 mrintro
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um, I was there when the PSP was released, it wasn't exactly a "revolution" by any means, nor did it sell particularly well when it came out.

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um, I was there when the PSP was released, it wasn't exactly a "revolution" by any means, nor did it sell particularly well when it came out.

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PSP outsold the DS for its first year and went on to sell over 70 million units lifetime. Vita will be lucky to get 15 million.
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#19 mrintro
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[QUOTE="mrintro"]

um, I was there when the PSP was released, it wasn't exactly a "revolution" by any means, nor did it sell particularly well when it came out.

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PSP outsold the DS for its first year and went on to sell over 70 million units lifetime. Vita will be lucky to get 15 million.

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="mrintro"]

um, I was there when the PSP was released, it wasn't exactly a "revolution" by any means, nor did it sell particularly well when it came out.

mrintro

PSP outsold the DS for its first year and went on to sell over 70 million units lifetime. Vita will be lucky to get 15 million.

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.
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If any real boost of sales were to happen then multiple wide-appealing must haves must come out. In a somewhat perfect world my ideal 2014 launch titles would be

1)Borderlands 2 (Yes I know its comin)

2)Fallout 3, and for the lulz maybe mod support and the previous 2 games

3) A proper COD game( I really dont care if its a port or not)

4) Metro 2033 or the sequel Last Light ( To push the hardware limits of the vita)

5)GTA Chinatown Wars, revamped to be similar to GTA 5 grapphically

6) Persona 5

7) Possibly a sequel to Uncharted Golden Abyss or a Port of 3

8) Grand Turismo ( One made specifically for the vita not a port

But then again a list of games like this all be published in 2014 would need a miracle, a miracle sony need

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#22 mrintro
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[QUOTE="mrintro"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] PSP outsold the DS for its first year and went on to sell over 70 million units lifetime. Vita will be lucky to get 15 million.famicommander

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.

Well, there's your take on it. I enjoy my Vita :)

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="mrintro"]

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

mrintro

Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.

Well, there's your take on it. I enjoy my Vita :)

I also enjoy my Vita. That does not change the objective analysis of its current and future financial prospects. Just because I can see the obvious factors that lead to the Vita's inevitable failure doesn't mean I WANT it to fail. No matter how much fun I have with mine, it doesn't change the fact that nobody is buying it and nobody wants to make games for it. And if nobody's buying it and nobody's making games, stores will eventually stop selling it.
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#24 mrintro
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[QUOTE="mrintro"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.famicommander

Well, there's your take on it. I enjoy my Vita :)

I also enjoy my Vita. That does not change the objective analysis of its current and future financial prospects. Just because I can see the obvious factors that lead to the Vita's inevitable failure doesn't mean I WANT it to fail. No matter how much fun I have with mine, it doesn't change the fact that nobody is buying it and nobody wants to make games for it. And if nobody's buying it and nobody's making games, stores will eventually stop selling it.

Ok, well when it fails, you can update this thread again!

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#25 Rowettfly
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The Vita will definitely pick up in the future (but probably not until 2014 atleast in my opinion). When the PS3 came out in 2006 it had a shit start and sold very little in the first few years, this allowed the xbox to get ahead, but as we all know nowadays the PS3 is huge and has sold over 75 million units around the world. I am not saying the Vta will sell that well because it won't but it will most definitely pick up. Thanks to all the new games coming out and the PS4 cross play, I don't see why people are so negative and critical about this genuinly good handheld.

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If any real boost of sales were to happen then multiple wide-appealing must haves must come out. In a somewhat perfect world my ideal 2014 launch titles would be

1)Borderlands 2 (Yes I know its comin)

2)Fallout 3, and for the lulz maybe mod support and the previous 2 games

3) A proper COD game( I really dont care if its a port or not)

4) Metro 2033 or the sequel Last Light ( To push the hardware limits of the vita)

5)GTA Chinatown Wars, revamped to be similar to GTA 5 grapphically

6) Persona 5

7) Possibly a sequel to Uncharted Golden Abyss or a Port of 3

8) Grand Turismo ( One made specifically for the vita not a port

But then again a list of games like this all be published in 2014 would need a miracle, a miracle sony need

GalacticCobalt

I answer to this there are rumors of a new Uncharted game with a multiplayer function on the vita, gta will most definintely be coming at some point wether it be a port or a whole new game and if you didn't know there was a leaked image from 'Game' (I think it was Game, a big games retail company anyway) of Call of Duty Ghosts Vita box.

It may be nothing but that is what I can tell you.

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#27 logicalfrank
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I am still kind of baffled they haven't released games from signature handheld series like Patapon and Loco Roco. That is what I think Vita needs.

Well, OK, that and some real open world games.

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[QUOTE="mrintro"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] PSP outsold the DS for its first year and went on to sell over 70 million units lifetime. Vita will be lucky to get 15 million.famicommander

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.

In 3 days we will see with the killzone mercenary release. That could help sales combined with the price drop.
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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="mrintro"]

I guess, PSP did come out pre-iPhone/tablet era. It is a slow start, but there's no way but up from here. Lower price, more games, ps4 functionality, Vita will be ok I think. 

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Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.

In 3 days we will see with the killzone mercenary release. That could help sales combined with the price drop.

It won't help much. Killzone isn't a system seller but I imagine the people who WOULD buy a system for a Killzone game are probably saving their money for Shadow Fall on PS4. If nobody cared when Hot Shots and Uncharted released, nobody's going to care about Killzone. Hot Shots, Uncharted, God of War, and Gran Turismo are Sony's most powerful system sellers. Hot Shots and Uncharted have come and gone, GT is nowhere in sight, and instead of an original GoW game the Vita gets a re-release of a re-release of PS2 games.
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JRPGs are the thing that's are to find and consoles nowadays that you buy handhelds to play. They've got a bunch coming in japan that need to see a state side release to get the vita going. As for the elder scrolls port, I say we'd be better off with a spiritual unique and exclusive open world elders scrolls like game on the vita. THAT would move units.
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#31 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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JRPGs. I went looking at the list a week or two ago to see exclusives for original JRPGs and I didn't see a single one that interested me, which is pretty pathetic considering the PSP had a fair amount. Would it kill Namco to bring over the two Tales games? Even decent JRPG support would push me over the edge because I still have some PSP games to catch up on, and those would look awesome in a higher resolution.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="famicommander"] Sorry, but no. The Vita is selling absolutely terribly. It's not going to recover. There are no games announced for it that will sell significant amounts of systems.

In 3 days we will see with the killzone mercenary release. That could help sales combined with the price drop.

It won't help much. Killzone isn't a system seller but I imagine the people who WOULD buy a system for a Killzone game are probably saving their money for Shadow Fall on PS4. If nobody cared when Hot Shots and Uncharted released, nobody's going to care about Killzone. Hot Shots, Uncharted, God of War, and Gran Turismo are Sony's most powerful system sellers. Hot Shots and Uncharted have come and gone, GT is nowhere in sight, and instead of an original GoW game the Vita gets a re-release of a re-release of PS2 games.

True kilzone hasn't' been a system seller in the past, but that was when it had so many issues(complaints) They have made a lot of updates to the series and launching with the ps4 sony must have some faith. I just hope it sells enough systems to get he next big game which as you said would be GT or socom is another system seller. Or a 3rd party savior like gta.