What happens when PS4 rolls out and no BC?

This question also goes to Xbox360 and Wiis.

Though Nintendo doesn't have that much of a problem with their VC.

Microsoft are trying to address the issue with games on demand, though the Xbox's library is not as substantial as PS2's.

What happens come next generation when PS3, Xbox360 and Wii owners have bought all those games, as well as the millions of PS2 owners- will we just have to buy another console and when ever we want to play the old games we have to switch to the older consoles?

PS1 ws one of the first to introduce cd formats for consoles, PS2 introduced dvd formats with BC for consoles, PS3 introduced Bluray formats for consoles and had an on/off again BC issue.

Is it really blu-ray that is a cost? I remember PS1, and PS2's being extremely expensive initially with the new formats,yet has gone down in price and sold millions with out losing the ability to play the HHHUUUGGEE back catalogue of games.

Will we just purchase more consoles and clutter up the lounge?.

The lounge is basically Microsoft and Sony's ultimate goal of domination yet it looks like it may turn out to be a bit clumsy having multple consoles just to play older games.

None of this

"Just get a PS2"

"I just want to play new games"

A lot of PS2 owners are satisfied with their PS2 games and it is still being supported, arcade games are very popular and PS2s are still selling.

So will we have to buy more consoles to support the back log of games from now on do we?

Why dont you think smart and keep the PS3 and play the PS3 games on it, instead of takeing up more room with old gen games on a next gen PS console.

Why dont you think smart and keep the PS3 and play the PS3 games on it, instead of takeing up more room with old gen games on a next gen PS console.

newb16

that's the whole point!!

If I think smart and then when PS4 comes ot I get that too!

Now I have a PS2, PS3, PS4 all in the lounge?

Consoles take up more room then disks. - I keep my disks in cases btw

The whole point is what is so different that Sony has to take out BC, when their past consoles had it?

It must be because of this current console war- yet there was a console war before this?

the only answer I can think of is emulation.

Sony should have just dropped Blu-Ray and kept the Emotion engine in if cost is an issue.

You just keep the PS3 and get a bigger lounge. That'll solve all your problems.

Nothing,because I'll buy the PS4 for PS4 games just like I bought the PS3 for PS3 games and will continue to play PS3 games on my PS3 just like I do when i played PS2 games on my PS2.

the only answer I can think of is emulation.

Sony should have just dropped Blu-Ray and kept the Emotion engine in if cost is an issue.

AdmiralBison

I disagree with that completely. I bet you there are more indecisive people out there that would buy a PS3 simply because it's a Blu Ray player than if it was backwards compatible with PS2 games.

well it needs a bluray player, unless they reprinted all the games :(, i'd like ps2 backwards compatibility so i dont have to plug my ps2 in, but that's just me being lazy, stop being lazy!

Yeah I hope they do implement b/c one day for all future and past PS3 owners. It would definitely be the greatest "bang for your buck" 3 generation consoles on one single system; not including including everything that comes with it either.

imo that would bring the PlayStation 3 status to the one of the (if not) best systems ever made with that single filmware update. It would be a nice treat for everyone.

I would say it's foolish not to incluce support for at least PS3 games. I mean, PS1 games are no problem since you can download them already ;). And I'll assume that by that time, PS2 games would be also. If the 360 can get DD copies of original games, it shouldn't be that hard for the PS4, much less the PS3 to do it. DethSkematik

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the only answer I can think of is emulation.

Sony should have just dropped Blu-Ray and kept the Emotion engine in if cost is an issue.

Large_Soda

I disagree with that completely. I bet you there are more indecisive people out there that would buy a PS3 simply because it's a Blu Ray player than if it was backwards compatible with PS2 games.

could be the case since the Xbox360 is actually seen more as a games machine then the PS3- People tend to use it to watch movies then play games, Xbox360 played more then PS2, more Cows in System Wars then Lemmings- all information points to that idea people simply see it as a blu-ray player then if it was backwards compatible to play games.

well it needs a bluray player, unless they reprinted all the games :(, i'd like ps2 backwards compatibility so i dont have to plug my ps2 in, but that's just me being lazy, stop being lazy!

kate_jones

people pay for convenience.

hence DLC, games on demand, Digital distribution, BC, multi media functionality.

Yeah I hope they do implement b/c one day for all future and past PS3 owners. It would definitely be the greatest "bang for your buck" 3 generation consoles on one single system; not including including everything that comes with it either.

imo that would bring the PlayStation 3 status to the one of the (if not) best systems ever made with that single filmware update. It would be a nice treat for everyone.

Nocturnal_Speed

THANK YOU.

Someone actually sees what one of the biggest selling points there is in having powerful sophisticated machines.

There are thousands of back catalogue games, videos, software and what not.

Since Sony and Microsoft are touting these powerful consoles to be more then just games machines, but full on multi-media devices and hubs into online service IN THE LOUNGE, then it is not unreasonable that they possess the ability to play many medias including games from past back catalogues.

Hence a games on demand seems to be the only viable solution(Unless that's what Sony have been planning all along as well)

Wii has VC and Wiiware- and people still want to play and buy games from past consoles-That's why there is a bit of a debacle in regards to Wii's VC list.

If Sony can't do Hardware BC, then use emulation- Why isn't the PS3 Cell Powerful enough?

the only answer I can think of is emulation.

Sony should have just dropped Blu-Ray and kept the Emotion engine in if cost is an issue.

AdmiralBison

how you gonna play the ps3 games when they are on blu-ray disks?

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the only answer I can think of is emulation.

Sony should have just dropped Blu-Ray and kept the Emotion engine in if cost is an issue.

KapG

how you gonna play the ps3 games when they are on blu-ray disks?

well isn't Sony going to stick with Blu-Ray or are they going to dump that when PS4 comes around?

Something like Blu-Ray I'd figured they would put a lot of investment in it for the long run.

It would be ironic if they would drop it for PS4 online distribtuion.

Something like they are doing wth PSP Go right now.

Sony could have opted to just stay with DVDs since the Xbox360 proves you can still play games using DVD and any excess stuff can be installed on to the hardrive.

That's one of the primary reasons why there are ever increasing storage Hard drives on consoles.

PS3 120 g- the rumored 240g.

The Xbox360 rumored 1tb Hardrive.

Why oh why are you concerning yourself about that now. 2012 is the closet expected talk about next gen and PlayStation have always started out with BC.

well, no blu ray means no MGS4, and I would die if that happened. Because Blu Ray disk hold about 30-50 gb of space.

I only have two problems with consoles not offering BC.

1.) Eventually my old console will die, and I will be unable to find a replacement simply because they aren't being made anymore

2.) Having to find space in my entertainment center for the old console. It's getting crowded in there as it is

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Yeah I hope they do implement b/c one day for all future and past PS3 owners. It would definitely be the greatest "bang for your buck" 3 generation consoles on one single system; not including including everything that comes with it either.

imo that would bring the PlayStation 3 status to the one of the (if not) best systems ever made with that single filmware update. It would be a nice treat for everyone.

AdmiralBison

THANK YOU.

Someone actually sees what one of the biggest selling points there is in having powerful sophisticated machines.

There are thousands of back catalogue games, videos, software and what not.

Since Sony and Microsoft are touting these powerful consoles to be more then just games machines, but full on multi-media devices and hubs into online service IN THE LOUNGE, then it is not unreasonable that they possess the ability to play many medias including games from past back catalogues.

Hence a games on demand seems to be the only viable solution(Unless that's what Sony have been planning all along as well)

Wii has VC and Wiiware- and people still want to play and buy games from past consoles-That's why there is a bit of a debacle in regards to Wii's VC list.

If Sony can't do Hardware BC, then use emulation- Why isn't the PS3 Cell Powerful enough?

dont care about ps4 bc, i just my ps3 to have it.

Are people still complaining about BC? Lawwwd.:(

Are people still complaining about BC? Lawwwd.:(

Furi-Kun

lol

with regards to all the BC talk, i have a launch 60gb console and have never played my PS2 games on it, and would rather have the cheaper and slimmer console if i had to pick now.

but if i am bruatally honest "all you BC lovers had your chance"

had the intially batch of BC console's sold well Sony would of had an incentive to keep it, but since they did not they dropped it and are giving the people what they really wanted a cheaper price.

The only game I used to play on my PS3 was Star Wars: Battlefront 2 and I stopped playing that more then a year ago. As long as they have quality games there'll be no need to return to PS3 games for enjoyment.

No the reason why they took it out was because people were buying ps2 games and playing them on the ps3 instead of buying ps3 games so they took out the backwards compatibility. They said they were gonna go strictly software emulation and keep it in but then they just took it outright from the system. So if i was a late adopter then yes i would be mad cause its an incomplete console.

No the reason why they took it out was because people were buying ps2 games and playing them on the ps3 instead of buying ps3 games so they took out the backwards compatibility. They said they were gonna go strictly software emulation and keep it in but then they just took it outright from the system. So if i was a late adopter then yes i would be mad cause its an incomplete console.

Vipa37

It is not an incomplete console.

I dont see PS4 coming out anytime soon.

No the reason why they took it out was because people were buying ps2 games and playing them on the ps3 instead of buying ps3 games

Vipa37

Sony's John Koller: "We've got such a substantial lineup of titles on the PS3 - most people are buying the PS3 for PS3 games," Koller said. "And it's not just like 50 or 60 percent. It's well into the 80 or 90 percentile range [buying PS3 games]"

BC is gone, hopefully forever.

If you're still playing ps2 games in 2009, your stuck in the past, or pathetically poor. Take your BC crying over to wii, word is you can put your snes cartridges in there.

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No the reason why they took it out was because people were buying ps2 games and playing them on the ps3 instead of buying ps3 games

Phacet

Sony's John Koller: "We've got such a substantial lineup of titles on the PS3 - most people are buying the PS3 for PS3 games," Koller said. "And it's not just like 50 or 60 percent. It's well into the 80 or 90 percentile range [buying PS3 games]"

BC is gone, hopefully forever.

If you're still playing ps2 games in 2009, your stuck in the past, or pathetically poor. Take your BC crying over to wii, word is you can put your snes cartridges in there.