what if MGS4 pulls a Spiderman 3

With so much going on, so many new gameplay elements, plot twists, new characters, vast amounts of questions to be answered and probably new questions, and new control systems and so on and so forth, MGS4 has a huge chance of ending up like Spiderman 3- where too much ended up being far too little- spiderman 3 tried doing so many things and jumble them all at once it just ended up falling apart.

this may be the only thing holding it back from game of the year.

It won't, and from reading the previews of the game, if you don't know IGN and Eurogamer had a new preview of the game and the story reveals a lot of the plot twist when you are going after Liquid from place to place.

And they said Kojima and his team outdone themeselves.

Spider-man 3 was a movie meaning they had to constrain it withing a two and a half hour time period.

Kojima's filling up that dual-layer Blu-ray with all sorts of delicious content. Don't worry. ;)

First of all, Spiderman 3 wasnt even highly anticipated or even close to being as big as any big hit title. So if anything, MGS4 wont pull a Spiderman 3. If it it sucked or flopped, it would still be better than any Spiderman game ever created. We're talking about Kojima here. And all the pass MGS games have been excellent, to say the least. MGS4 will be the best game this year. Elann2008

First of all, Spiderman 3 wasnt even highly anticipated or even close to being as big as any big hit title. So if anything, MGS4 wont pull a Spiderman 3. If it it sucked or flopped, it would still be better than any Spiderman game ever created. We're talking about Kojima here. And all the pass MGS games have been excellent, to say the least. MGS4 will be the best game this year. Elann2008

i disagree with u in only one thing

MGS4 wont be best game of the year, however it will be the best game ever made like GTA3 when it 1st hit the shelves

First of all, Spiderman 3 wasnt even highly anticipated or even close to being as big as any big hit title. So if anything, MGS4 wont pull a Spiderman 3. If it it sucked or flopped, it would still be better than any Spiderman game ever created. We're talking about Kojima here. And all the pass MGS games have been excellent, to say the least. MGS4 will be the best game this year. Elann2008

spiderman 3 the movie ya douche

As someone pointed out.. there's a difference between a 2.5 hour movie and a game of blu-ray proportions.

They want to fit something in, they will. Kojima will probably delay the game if he thinks there's something missing.

But let's pray he likes what he's done ^^

On a side note: Spiderman 3 IS entirely different from MGS4 and thus the comparison is not chosen all that well... I mean besides the difference between a movia and a game, you also have a different (aimed) audience, a different set of conditions etc.

Just be calm about it^^

has nothing to do with fitting things in- i dont care if the game lasts 50 hours- it can still become so convoluted and jumbledronniepage588

Metal Gear Solid is already that way. :P You've come late to the party.

I think people are missing the point that TC here is trying to make.

I honestly don't think he's concerned about there not being enough actual space on the Blu Ray disc. I think he's posing the question, "What if this game, which we all have high hopes for, just has so much stuff crammed into it that the gameplay experience itself gets lost in the mix?"

His comparison to Spider-Man 3 is valid; the movie had so many plots and subplots going on at the same time that the movie-watching experience itself was almost painful at times.

It's not a time or disc space constraint issue. It's not a "different audience" issue. It's a "is the gameplay experience going to suffer because of a potential overload of new features" issue.

I think people are missing the point that TC here is trying to make.

I honestly don't think he's concerned about there not being enough actual space on the Blu Ray disc. I think he's posing the question, "What if this game, which we all have high hopes for, just has so much stuff crammed into it that the gameplay experience itself gets lost in the mix?"

His comparison to Spider-Man 3 is valid; the movie had so many plots and subplots going on at the same time that the movie-watching experience itself was almost painful at times.

It's not a time or disc space constraint issue. It's not a "different audience" issue. It's a "is the gameplay experience going to suffer because of a potential overload of new features" issue.

septemberluc

I can't see Kojima releasing this game that he's worked on for so long without making sure everything was balanced and fleshed out as it should be. Kojima tells a good story. I'm not worried about anything getting lost or anything being sub-par. I'm sure the budget for this game was gigantic and Kojima has pretty much perfected it.

[QUOTE="septemberluc"]

I think people are missing the point that TC here is trying to make.

I honestly don't think he's concerned about there not being enough actual space on the Blu Ray disc. I think he's posing the question, "What if this game, which we all have high hopes for, just has so much stuff crammed into it that the gameplay experience itself gets lost in the mix?"

His comparison to Spider-Man 3 is valid; the movie had so many plots and subplots going on at the same time that the movie-watching experience itself was almost painful at times.

It's not a time or disc space constraint issue. It's not a "different audience" issue. It's a "is the gameplay experience going to suffer because of a potential overload of new features" issue.

dewmandew7

I can't see Kojima releasing this game that he's worked on for so long without making sure everything was balanced and fleshed out as it should be. Kojima tells a good story. I'm not worried about anything getting lost or anything being sub-par. I'm sure the budget for this game was gigantic and Kojima has pretty much perfected it.

Snakes don't shoot webs :)Staryoshi87

[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]Snakes don't shoot webs :)septemberluc

You know darn well I'm not including mutant snakes.

With so much going on, so many new gameplay elements, plot twists, new characters, vast amounts of questions to be answered and probably new questions, and new control systems and so on and so forth, MGS4 has a huge chance of ending up like Spiderman 3- where too much ended up being far too little- spiderman 3 tried doing so many things and jumble them all at once it just ended up falling apart.

this may be the only thing holding it back from game of the year.

ronniepage588

do you mean the game or the move i thought that the movie was awesome but if MGS4 ends up like the spiderman 3 game than i guess that gun i bought the other day will be used for suicide (^_^)

Every single preview for this game states that this is THE GAME of this gen for now at least. They even said that it will make Gears look bad visually. Kojima doesn't know what failing is he is a true designer and visionary in gaming. You can rest assured it will be the benchmark in story telling at the very least and the most memorable game for a while at the very least.

Spider-man 3 was a movie meaning they had to constrain it withing a two and a half hour time period.

Kojima's filling up that dual-layer Blu-ray with all sorts of delicious content. Don't worry. ;)

dewmandew7

Dewman's right, he's actually right :|.

they developed spider man 3 in what, 2 weeks, and mgs4 has been in development with a huge budget for how long? you are comparing apples to oranges mate.. metal gear solid on the psx was a better game than spider man 3knowledge83

he is talking about the movie.

Clearly you haven't played a lot of metal gear to know it won't be. Spiderman 3 was written and coded by a bunch of damn clownshoes that's why it sucked, we're talking Konami with Kojima here.fntsycloud

dude- i bought a copy of metal gear when i was a little kid dude. i have been playing it since the beginning. im a huge fan- and my goddamn icon is snakes face from metal gear 2 solid snake. people are so fast to judge and be defensive over things.

i thought it was a good point worth noting- i am sure kojima has it all worked out, but theres always going to be that slight worry. i mean, every trailer totally changes everything like he keeps totally blowin our minds. but eventually its like, damn- either this game is going to be incredibly longer than i expected or perhaps it becomes too congested. the gameplay is key for me- but i love the story too, i just hope he balances it well. theres sooooo much story to tell on top of making sure the game is both new, faithful to metal gear spirit, and also very unique and really creates memorable gaming experiences.

ok people...... i loved spiderman 3.....do not say that movie was a flop or whatever.....ok dudes.......besides....if you think mgs4 might end up being a load of **** shoot yourself(don't!!!).......stupidme1234

We respect your opinion of Spider Man 3 and you respect the opinion of nearly every person on the face of the planet. :P

no heres whats gonnma happen.. because sony is hypeing it or who ever, like it's one of those games if you own a ps3 you better get it.. soo the people who are fans of mgs games will love it an the othe rbig % of people who bought it will probably end up not liking it...iamshivy

Why do you say that? It seems like story won't be a problem with all of those MGS flashbacks they're adding. The gameplay looks tight, based on MGO. I don't think your concern is very valid.