What is the non-piracy related reasons for jail-breaking a PS3?

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#1 29111
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After all the mess about hotz and Sony, and reading a lot of comments on lots of websites, More than one person made the claim that "its not about piracy or cheating". In a non-flaming, hacker bashing way, can anyone explain what hackers are doing ASIDE from ripping off software and cheating on multiplayer. And what is so important about being able to run linux? I'm genuinely interested in what they are trying to make a PS3 do that it doesn't already

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#2 Secret-Face
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Homebrew of course. Many custom applications can be run on a jailbroken ps3. At the minute there is no way for jailbroken ps3 owners to get into PSN
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#3 MonkeySpot
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"Open Delvelopment", which has shown to create some interesting and helpful creative output on platforms such as Win 7 and Android. I'm simply quoting oter resposes I have recieved when asking the same question. It's a fair point, with merit. But as I have stated in response before, Kazaa and Napster weren't written with the express idea of sharing illegally transfered files... The biggest problem was that people didn't stop at using the programs to share personally created content, the same as YouTube in the early days. Television, movies, and other files became the majority of traffic on such sites and programs, forcing the legal-eagles to go into motion.

The problem lies primarily with the "moral compass" of the majority of users. Not everyone participated in illegal conduct, just the majority. We, as a community, know our brothers and sisters a bit too well (as does Sony) to believe that an open system would stop at creative people's product. Helpful, fun, and constructive as a lot of it might turn out to be.

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#4 Xx-Addict-xX
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**Watch what you say here moderators don't like this.....**
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#5 MonkeySpot
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**Watch what you say here moderators don't like this.....**Xx-Addict-xX

Actually this isn't a grey question to ask. We've had other recent discussions about the exact same thing. TC is guilty of not doing a search before posting, and that's about all the icky-bad there is. Understanding is the key to positive change in our community. TC was asking the why, not the how.

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Mucho Respect-o.

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#6 JohnF111
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Homebrew... such as Torrent apps and FTP Server. I wonder why these would be demanded apps on a hacked console? The only people want is the ability to programme for the elusive and trademark difficulty of coding for it... Anything can be run on the PS3 it's just getting SPU's to do useful things that seems the tricky part and you know hackers they'll do anything to increase their e-penis size or be noticed in the world.
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#7 29111
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So what apps does "homebrew" offer? I have an Iphone, and havent found one app thats worth having. When I look at what is done with hackedold 1st gen Xbox's, they just turn them into media servers, which the PS3 already is. And sorry for not digging through old posts. If I had more time, I would....but I don't....so I can't. Thanks for answering though.

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So what apps does "homebrew" offer? I have an Iphone, and havent found one app thats worth having. When I look at what is done with hackedold 1st gen Xbox's, they just turn them into media servers, which the PS3 already is. And sorry for not digging through old posts. If I had more time, I would....but I don't....so I can't. Thanks for answering though.

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Well this is just you then, I think there are tons of interessting Apps on the iPhone and you can actually comprare iPhone Apps pretty good with homebrew on the PS3. I'm not sure how legal Emulators (for systems and games you own) are in the US (here in Switzerland it is legal), but they might be interessting as well. I have pretty much every console with 100s of games, having at least the first few games collected on a modern console sounds interessting

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#9 29111
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generally, I don't think american companies are cool with emulators (I think. I know nintendo isn't a fan of them).

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#10 MonkeySpot
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generally, I don't think american companies are cool with emulators (I think. I know nintendo isn't a fan of them).

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Emulators are indeed illegal in the US. And I'm not trying to be rude or anything so please don't read snottiness or any other haughty attitude from me when I make this observation, please, but "American" is capitalized. Any country name or like distinction should be. It's common courtesy to their people no matter whom you are discussing.

Respect to you.

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I dont think piracy would be that big a deal for PS3 considering the games would be like 40gb+. Thats a ton of data to download even with a super fast connection, you'd be limited by the upload of the possible seed. Plus BD burners are still very expensive and the disc's themselves are expensive. If you got 2 or 3 coasters you basically could have gotten the game legit instead. Now hackers is probably the biggest reason against. I didnt experience it but in MW2 MP it was very bad and made the online no fun and unplayable. With just about every game having an MP on it that could be a very big reason to avoid the PS3 if it wasnt stopped.
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#12 vladmirr
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pure hatred against Sony is a reason, is it not.
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Being able to run a buggy version of Crysis
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#14 conistant
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Emulators,OtherOS and Homebrew all of which are pretty fast even on a 3 year old PC compared to the PS3.
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Cheating online and offline, I know playing shooters online I would run into people that had over a 1000 rounds per mag and infinite health and gernades. It was just crazy what some people had and would say I am not cheating.
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#16 tommyas
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I hear homebrew here. Could anyone specify what homebrew exactly is avaible for ps3 and is not illegal?
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I dont think piracy would be that big a deal for PS3 considering the games would be like 40gb+. Thats a ton of data to download even with a super fast connection, you'd be limited by the upload of the possible seed. Plus BD burners are still very expensive and the disc's themselves are expensive. If you got 2 or 3 coasters you basically could have gotten the game legit instead. Now hackers is probably the biggest reason against. I didnt experience it but in MW2 MP it was very bad and made the online no fun and unplayable. With just about every game having an MP on it that could be a very big reason to avoid the PS3 if it wasnt stopped.Kurushio

I wish you were right, but unfortunatly, in certain places in the world, you can buy copied BD games for ten dollars that you use as installation media on a jail-broken system. The very thought disgusts me.

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#18 planetjumper
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emulators are in no way illegal it is just a simple program, it's the ROMs (Read Only Memory)that are still under copyright that are illegal to distribute along with distributing BIOS (basic input/output system)

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#19 JohnF111
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I hear homebrew here. Could anyone specify what homebrew exactly is avaible for ps3 and is not illegal?tommyas
Erm... FTP Server is a homebrew app i've seen there is also MKV support which i recon is a port of the codec... Other than that the main concern of these hackers is allowing free games and music and videos to run better.. I mean why else would MKV support be put on a PS3 other than the completely obvious?
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#20 conistant
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Now we have one good thing about jail-breaking-Free Dynamic themes.Hackers have figured out a way to make dynamic themes and you don't need to jailbreak your PS3 to install these.