What would've made Heavenly Sword better

What I'm hoping, is that everyone came out the experience of Heavenly Sword somewhat disappointed. It was nowhere near my high standards of a AAA title and would've loved if they fixed several key things about the game.

If you even feel somewhat the same way, please tell us here.

~Debates welcomed. ;)

What I'm hoping, is that everyone came out the experience of Heavenly Sword somewhat disappointed. It was nowhere near my high standards of a AAA title and would've loved if they fixed several key things about the game.

If you even feel somewhat the same way, please tell us here.

~Debates welcomed. ;)

Symphonycometh

It's obvious that HS was rushed out. Gameplay is lacking, although it is fun while it lasts. Combat does not reward skills that are harder to pull off (I forgot what it's called, but throwing the enemy to air is just a weak sauce). Great graphics, excellent story telling and cutscenes, but it was annoying to see your allies looked exactly the same.

I can't think of anything that could of been done to make HS better, every aspect of that game was top notch imo.

I can't think of anything that could of been done to make HS better, every aspect of that game was top notch imo.

Mcortijo01

o_o.

Frame rates?

Harder modes?

More bosses?

A more Epic storyline?

A soundtrack that actually got released? (Okay, I admit that is more of a personal problem.)

o_o.

Frame rates?

Harder modes?

More bosses?

A more Epic storyline?

A soundtrack that actually got released? (Okay, I admit that is more of a personal problem.)

Symphonycometh

I think all but frame rates is more personal. I don't recall much in the way of slowdown anyway.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

o_o.

Frame rates?

Harder modes?

More bosses?

A more Epic storyline?

A soundtrack that actually got released? (Okay, I admit that is more of a personal problem.)

emitsu97

I think all but frame rates is more personal. I don't recall much in the way of slowdown anyway.

...Was Heavenly Sword not easy to you as well on Hell Mode? I like me a challenge...

Everything else, I do admit are personal as well...but the soundtrack man! It wasn't even released! :cry:

~Note, I have no deep unfonded love for music.

...Was Heavenly Sword not easy to you as well on Hell Mode? I like me a challenge...

Everything else, I do admit are personal as well...but the soundtrack man! It wasn't even released! :cry:

~Note, I have no deep unfonded love for music.

Symphonycometh

I played through on normal and it was more than enjoyable. Once I'm done with Viking and Dark Sector, HS is on my list of games to revisit for full completion, right behind R&C and Uncharted.

after I beat Crisis Core perhaps...SinfulTorture

Doh! I forgot I have to do that too.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

...Was Heavenly Sword not easy to you as well on Hell Mode? I like me a challenge...

Everything else, I do admit are personal as well...but the soundtrack man! It wasn't even released! :cry:

~Note, I have no deep unfonded love for music.

emitsu97

I played through on normal and it was more than enjoyable. Once I'm done with Viking and Dark Sector, HS is on my list of games to revisit for full completion, right behind R&C and Uncharted.

How is Viking. I've been wanting to play it, but heard a lot of negativity about it. Looks great to me though

About Heavenly Sword, I thought it was a wonderful game. The perfect length, great music, great gameplay, and a great story. My main problem was that all the enemies looked the same, which when you have 500 enemies onscreen it's hard to make them all look different. Another problem is that I thought Kai didn't get enough play time. I loved playing Kai. I thought the game was a great challange and enjoyed every minute of it. Hopefully they don't change much for the next one.

What I'm hoping, is that everyone came out the experience of Heavenly Sword somewhat disappointed. It was nowhere near my high standards of a AAA title and would've loved if they fixed several key things about the game.

If you even feel somewhat the same way, please tell us here.

~Debates welcomed. ;)

Symphonycometh

I would buy it for $40, but not $60. Too short, too many issues. Still a good game, but not a great game. I'm holding out until they drop it to $40 and I've been saying that from the day it came out.

How is Viking. I've been wanting to play it, but heard a lot of negativity about it. Looks great to me thoughCanvas_Of_Flesh

I'm really enjoying it. I watched 40 minutes worth of gameplay vids and determined it would be something I would enjoy. If you like the gameplay vids you'll like the game.

Oh yeah.....nice thread man! There hasn't been much worth commenting on the last few days......especially in our "fun" board!Deominator

The suspend mii for free board? Yeah, you got that right! And no problem. I always try to bring some sort of an original topic to the table...or at least rebring an original topic back up.:D

[QUOTE="emitsu97"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

...Was Heavenly Sword not easy to you as well on Hell Mode? I like me a challenge...

Everything else, I do admit are personal as well...but the soundtrack man! It wasn't even released! :cry:

~Note, I have no deep unfonded love for music.

Canvas_Of_Flesh

I played through on normal and it was more than enjoyable. Once I'm done with Viking and Dark Sector, HS is on my list of games to revisit for full completion, right behind R&C and Uncharted.

How is Viking. I've been wanting to play it, but heard a lot of negativity about it. Looks great to me though

About Heavenly Sword, I thought it was a wonderful game. The perfect length, great music, great gameplay, and a great story. My main problem was that all the enemies looked the same, which when you have 500 enemies onscreen it's hard to make them all look different. Another problem is that I thought Kai didn't get enough play time. I loved playing Kai. I thought the game was a great challange and enjoyed every minute of it. Hopefully they don't change much for the next one.

Dude I have Viking too, It's actually pretty awesome. Ignore the 5.0 score, its worth more like 8....graphics are awesome....

Anyway, only thing about Heavenly Sword that could have made it better imo, is a longer story....it was really short to me...

Uhhhmm ability to jump?

I almost don't even want to rent it now.

[QUOTE="Deominator"]Oh yeah.....nice thread man! There hasn't been much worth commenting on the last few days......especially in our "fun" board!Symphonycometh

The suspend mii for free board? Yeah, you got that right! And no problem. I always try to bring some sort of an original topic to the table...or at least rebring an original topic back up.:D

Do they have separate mods for each platform or something? If you look at the profiles of mods that post in each forum they tend to own systems only made by that company.....hmmm.....but they are fair and unbiased....:roll:

I'll buy Heavenly Sword for $60 if enough people can convince me. I've played it a little, so I know what it's all about. I just want to know if it has any replay value at all that I am unaware of. Like DMC 4 replay value?

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="Deominator"]Oh yeah.....nice thread man! There hasn't been much worth commenting on the last few days......especially in our "fun" board!Deominator

The suspend mii for free board? Yeah, you got that right! And no problem. I always try to bring some sort of an original topic to the table...or at least rebring an original topic back up.:D

Do they have separate mods for each platform or something? If you look at the profiles of mods that post in each forum they tend to own systems only made by that company.....hmmm.....but they are fair and unbiased....:roll:

I'll buy Heavenly Sword for $60 if enough people can convince me. I've played it a little, so I know what it's all about. I just want to know if it has any replay value at all that I am unaware of. Like DMC 4 replay value?

No. You master it in 8 hours. Wanna know how that 8 hours is spent?

6 hours beating the game and mastering the controls the first play through on Normal Mode.

2 hours perfecting the moves and beating it on Hell Mode...with no reason whatsoever to play them again.

Oh, and your blog is replied to.:D

[QUOTE="Deominator"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="Deominator"]Oh yeah.....nice thread man! There hasn't been much worth commenting on the last few days......especially in our "fun" board!Symphonycometh

The suspend mii for free board? Yeah, you got that right! And no problem. I always try to bring some sort of an original topic to the table...or at least rebring an original topic back up.:D

Do they have separate mods for each platform or something? If you look at the profiles of mods that post in each forum they tend to own systems only made by that company.....hmmm.....but they are fair and unbiased....:roll:

I'll buy Heavenly Sword for $60 if enough people can convince me. I've played it a little, so I know what it's all about. I just want to know if it has any replay value at all that I am unaware of. Like DMC 4 replay value?

No. You master it in 8 hours. Wanna know how that 8 hours is spent?

6 hours beating the game and mastering the controls the first play through on Normal Mode.

2 hours perfecting the moves and beating it on Hell Mode...with no reason whatsoever to play them again.

Oh, and your blog is replied to.:D

Yipes! The $40 ban continues then! Sony needs to start releasing FULL games or wise up and lower the prices to $40 new for these glorified demos and beta tests. Wait....they DID? Oh yeah, Warhawk and GT 5 Prologue! Lulzezez! I love Warhawk and I'm sure I'll love Prologue. And the prices are more fair for what we get.

Yipes! The $40 ban continues then! Sony needs to start releasing FULL games or wise up and lower the prices to $40 new for these glorified demos and beta tests. Wait....they DID? Oh yeah, Warhawk and GT 5 Prologue! Lulzezez! I love Warhawk and I'm sure I'll love Prologue. And the prices are more fair for what we get.

Deominator

To each his own.

It was $60 well spent for the experience IMO. The presentation, production quality, voice acting and emotion were amazing.

[QUOTE="Deominator"]

Yipes! The $40 ban continues then! Sony needs to start releasing FULL games or wise up and lower the prices to $40 new for these glorified demos and beta tests. Wait....they DID? Oh yeah, Warhawk and GT 5 Prologue! Lulzezez! I love Warhawk and I'm sure I'll love Prologue. And the prices are more fair for what we get.

emitsu97

To each his own.

It was $60 well spent for the experience IMO. The presentation, production quality, voice acting and emotion were amazing.

I thought the movie was okay too. :P

[QUOTE="Deominator"]

Yipes! The $40 ban continues then! Sony needs to start releasing FULL games or wise up and lower the prices to $40 new for these glorified demos and beta tests. Wait....they DID? Oh yeah, Warhawk and GT 5 Prologue! Lulzezez! I love Warhawk and I'm sure I'll love Prologue. And the prices are more fair for what we get.

emitsu97

To each his own.

It was $60 well spent for the experience IMO. The presentation, production quality, voice acting and emotion were amazing.

i loved the game, it was just perfect.JoKeR_421

And so is Conan I'm sure.

And so is Conan I'm sure.Symphonycometh

There were folks who enjoyed Conan. It's their personal taste and opinion. Just like all your opinions you listed above.

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i loved the game, it was just perfect.Symphonycometh

And so is Conan I'm sure.

Actually, I have Conan (I got it mainly because I love REH's writings) and I have alot of fun playing it. Heavenly Sword is great fun as well. For me, it just comes down to whether I have fun or not... and I have fun playing those games.. they are fun. They are much more fun than some other games, but HS is absolutley fun, and Conan is pretty fun as well. Word of the day: FUN. I don't pick up a game expecting it to blow my mind or alter my life in any manner. I just want to be entertained and have.... fun :D I can hook my atari 2600 up and play some games that don't even have much of a story or production quality by todays standards (or then for that matter), and still have fun.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]And so is Conan I'm sure.emitsu97

There were folks who enjoyed Conan. It's their personal taste and opinion. Just like all your opinions you listed above.

It's alright to enjoy Conan. As you say, it's all just opinions. I was just aiming towards the word: "perfect."

It's alright to enjoy Conan. As you say, it's all just opinions. I was just aiming towards the word: "perfect."Symphonycometh

Given the context, "perfect" is subjective.

...Word of the day: FUN. I don't pick up a game expecting it to blow my mind or alter my life in any manner. I just want to be entertained and have.... fun :Dhopesfoll

Quote worthy. The true reason video games exist.

[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i loved the game, it was just perfect.hopesfoll

And so is Conan I'm sure.

Actually, I have Conan (I got it mainly because I love REH's writings) and I have alot of fun playing it. Heavenly Sword is great fun as well. For me, it just comes down to whether I have fun or not... and I have fun playing those games.. they are fun. They are much more fun than some other games, but HS is absolutley fun, and Conan is pretty fun as well. Word of the day: FUN. I don't pick up a game expecting it to blow my mind or alter my life in any manner. I just want to be entertained and have.... fun :D

So did I. But my definition of fun is a bit different than yours. I've played enough games to know that I'm playing the same thing with a different cover, so "plain fun" now has to be epic for me not to get bored, but I get what you're talking about.

So did I. But my definition of fun is a bit different than yours. I've played enough games to know that I'm playing the same thing with a different cover, so "plain fun" now has to be epic for me not to get bored, but I get what you're talking about.

Symphonycometh

I see where your coming from. Some people just have different taste as well. Someone could tell me a game has an amazing story, and awesome AI, and sweet vehicles and so on.... and I would still ask them if it was fun.

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

I happen to like the conversation we're having here. I'm completely disagreeing with the majority, yet not a flame in sight from either side! :DSymphonycometh

Flamethrower! :P I can't imagine anyone getting too carazay in defense of Heavenly Sword. If it gets a sequel that is longer and has more moves and features added then our wishes for it will be fulfilled. From the production quality standpoint it is phenomenal.

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

tjiusnoyo

Then they'd need to change the name to Heavenly Weapons. The way I see it the Sword is just as much a character as Nariko or Kai. I loved the length. It took me a week and a half to beat it and it didn't drag on like some games (i.e. RE4).

[QUOTE="hopesfoll"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i loved the game, it was just perfect.Symphonycometh

And so is Conan I'm sure.

Actually, I have Conan (I got it mainly because I love REH's writings) and I have alot of fun playing it. Heavenly Sword is great fun as well. For me, it just comes down to whether I have fun or not... and I have fun playing those games.. they are fun. They are much more fun than some other games, but HS is absolutley fun, and Conan is pretty fun as well. Word of the day: FUN. I don't pick up a game expecting it to blow my mind or alter my life in any manner. I just want to be entertained and have.... fun :D

So did I. But my definition of fun is a bit different than yours. I've played enough games to know that I'm playing the same thing with a different cover, so "plain fun" now has to be epic for me not to get bored, but I get what you're talking about.

Exactly! The genres are so crowded now that a game has to be top notch. That means an epic story, replay incentive,amazing audio and visuals and flawless controls with an interesting and wide array of moves/weapons. That's why the majority of the games out there today make me say "meh".

[QUOTE="tjiusnoyo"]

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

Canvas_Of_Flesh

Then they'd need to change the name to Heavenly Weapons. The way I see it the Sword is just as much a character as Nariko or Kai. I loved the length. It took me a week and a half to beat it and it didn't drag on like some games (i.e. RE4).

That's a pretty long time man...

[QUOTE="tjiusnoyo"]

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

Canvas_Of_Flesh

Then they'd need to change the name to Heavenly Weapons. The way I see it the Sword is just as much a character as Nariko or Kai. I loved the length. It took me a week and a half to beat it and it didn't drag on like some games (i.e. RE4).

How does RE4 drag on? I have a clear time of 3 hours and 23 minutes on one of my save slots. That's hardly dragging!

Exactly! The genres are so crowded now that a game has to be top notch. That means an epic story, replay incentive,amazing audio and visuals and flawless controls with an interesting and wide array of moves/weapons. That's why the majority of the games out there today make me say "meh".

Deominator

My thoughts exactly. Esp. the music.

I'M NOT MUSIC BIASED! XD

[QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"][QUOTE="tjiusnoyo"]

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

Deominator

Then they'd need to change the name to Heavenly Weapons. The way I see it the Sword is just as much a character as Nariko or Kai. I loved the length. It took me a week and a half to beat it and it didn't drag on like some games (i.e. RE4).

How does RE4 drag on? I have a clear time of 3 hours and 23 minutes on one of my save slots. That's hardly dragging!

Then you'd beat Heavenly Sword in an hour and some decent change. Even the casuals can beat Heavenly Sword in one sitting.

[QUOTE="Deominator"][QUOTE="Canvas_Of_Flesh"][QUOTE="tjiusnoyo"]

constant framerate, preferably 60fps

jump button

more diverse enemies

longer story

not really needed, but cool to have:

more weapons, each with their own stances

Symphonycometh

Then they'd need to change the name to Heavenly Weapons. The way I see it the Sword is just as much a character as Nariko or Kai. I loved the length. It took me a week and a half to beat it and it didn't drag on like some games (i.e. RE4).

How does RE4 drag on? I have a clear time of 3 hours and 23 minutes on one of my save slots. That's hardly dragging!

Then you'd beat Heavenly Sword in an hour and some decent change. Even the casuals can beat Heavenly Sword in one sitting.

And we know how I feel about casuals. *Glares hard at Ninty forum* Maybe it would take me 3 or 4 if I stopped to watch all the cinematics and soak in the visuals....;)

And we know how I feel about casuals. *Glares hard at Ninty forum* Maybe it would take me 3 or 4 if I stopped to watch all the cinematics and soak in the visuals....;)

Deominator

I was counting the cinematics in that hour and a half. :| And the visuals don't make you want to look for too long.

And yes, don't remind mii about that forum! The suspension was childish.

[QUOTE="Deominator"]

And we know how I feel about casuals. *Glares hard at Ninty forum* Maybe it would take me 3 or 4 if I stopped to watch all the cinematics and soak in the visuals....;)

Symphonycometh

I was counting the cinematics in that hour and a half. :| And the visuals don't make you want to look for too long.

And yes, don't remind mii about that forum! The suspension was childish.

Check mii out! :lol: I couldn't resist. I'm really surprised the thing can handle PS2 ports. It's barely handling DC ports....you know which ones!

Oh, and now to sing about Heavenly Sword to "Heavenly Star" by Genki Rockets!

*Heavenly, heavenly, heavenly sword! Fly away! I've found the path to paradise!* Yeah, Lumines rocks. 8)