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#1 Miles0T0Prower
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Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

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#2 Hamster-of-Fate
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Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

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Because gamers are rich. expect me

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#3 catlin_czirr
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Because people who spend the extra money on a 1080p HDTV want something to justify their purchase, or "show off" their new toy, even if it looks no different, they feel more secure knowing the content they are viewing is in "Full HD 1080p!"
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#4 immikeulate
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Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.
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#5 Miles0T0Prower
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Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.immikeulate
the difference cant be that big at 26inch
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Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.immikeulate
Mabey you just got a better quality tv with a higher contrast ratio, I upgraded fom my off brand 37" LCD to my Philips 50" plasma (both 720p) and the difference is very noticable.
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#7 Miles0T0Prower
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[QUOTE="immikeulate"]Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.catlin_czirr
Mabey you just got a better quality tv with a higher contrast ratio, I upgraded fom my off brand 37" LCD to my Philips 50" plasma (both 720p) and the difference is very noticable.

I have a high qulity TV its a SABRE(miltitary brand) its has a contrast ration of 1200:1
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#8 immikeulate
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True at 26in there no point in 1080p (that why they dont make 1080p TVs that small). But I moved up from a 30in Samsung HDTV to a 46" 1080p Samsung TV and beleive you me I constantly have eye orgasms. By the way for gaming I sit 3-4 feet way from my TV so I miss nothing.
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Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

Miles0T0Prower

Well i get excited about it even though i dont have a big 1080p TV

I have two big 1080P TVs =O sounds like someones jealous

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I have a 32" 1080i and a HD projector with a 92" screen also displaying in 1080i, and they both look awesome so its just something to brag about. You can barely tell the difference and if you were not told there was a difference you would not notice.
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#11 aajohnny
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Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

Miles0T0Prower
lol dude I got a 1080p massive tv....belive me it looks good,the only reason it may look the same cuz half the things out today are in 720p or 1080i....wait till tv stations and stuff comes to 1080p you'll see the difference.
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It a difference, but it will not make or break a game. But its just a little help in being better. And it will be standard by 2010 for everything almost. little stuff here, little stuff their, you know. How many HD 1080p "or is it 1080i??" Satelite commercials have you guys all seen as of late. 100 channels by the end of the year! It the next norm, and thus their will be others that are considered old. Or not up to date, or dated.

And off the subject but since my 2.0 post. My box "the first one, not the router," is going nuts, even on this PC? So my PC is slowing, not my PS3? But My ps3 goes threw a third box.

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I have a 32" 1080i and a HD projector with a 92" screen also displaying in 1080i, and they both look awesome so its just something to brag about. You can barely tell the difference and if you were not told there was a difference you would not notice.wooooode

Just make sure you are not mixing up support for 1080i with actually displaying 1080i. Unless both your screens are CRT based.

I have a 65inch 1080p screen, and the best benefit for 1080p would be smaller jaggies. But for games, I don't imagine much else of a difference since textures need to be sharp and good filtering to show more detail.'

People with 24inch PC LCDs can show 1080p, and sitting in front of it like normal for a PC screen you can make out every pixel.

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#14 analog10
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Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.immikeulate

The difference is minimal. It all depends on screen size and viewing distance. With a 1080p set you need to sit closer to the screen than a 720p set. If you have say a "40 1080p and sit 12 feet away from it you can not make out the finer detail provided by the high resolution. 1080p owners will never admit that their sets are anything but superior in all situations because the bought the set with a "best of the lot" mentality.

Having said that if you view your 1080p set at the correct distance there is a difference but it is not a night and day difference.

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A problem with 1080p for games is that games don't have unlimited detail like the real world 1080p recordings where you can say it's twice the detail as 720p and see the difference. With a game, at 720p, you might already be displaying the limit of detail the textures in the game can show, so suddenly upping the resolution to 1080p it might look exactly the same except a little more fidelity in the distance and smaller jaggies. In the end, a game with sharper textures and AA would probably look better than a 1080p game with no AA (because of 1080p performance) and less memory for textures.
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#16 immikeulate
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A problem with 1080p for games is that games don't have unlimited detail like the real world 1080p recordings where you can say it's twice the detail as 720p and see the difference. With a game, at 720p, you might already be displaying the limit of detail the textures in the game can show, so suddenly upping the resolution to 1080p it might look exactly the same except a little more fidelity in the distance and smaller jaggies. In the end, a game with sharper textures and AA would probably look better than a 1080p game with no AA (because of 1080p performance) and less memory for textures.
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No offense but that sounds like a half baked crack pot theory to me.

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[QUOTE="TimothyB"]A problem with 1080p for games is that games don't have unlimited detail like the real world 1080p recordings where you can say it's twice the detail as 720p and see the difference. With a game, at 720p, you might already be displaying the limit of detail the textures in the game can show, so suddenly upping the resolution to 1080p it might look exactly the same except a little more fidelity in the distance and smaller jaggies. In the end, a game with sharper textures and AA would probably look better than a 1080p game with no AA (because of 1080p performance) and less memory for textures.
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No offense but that sounds like a half baked crack pot theory to me.

Extreme example, in a FPS game, move to stare a foot from a wall. You are so close you probably seeing that the texture is not holding up, looks low-res. Switching to 1080p it will look exactly the same. So I'm saying, on average you have to be a certain distance from a texture in a game where it shows the max detail within the area on the HD screen it's taking up. So upping to 1080p might not help the foreground much, but more things in the background and distance. And even then, sometime games lower the res in the distance for performance, or bad texture filtering blurs textures at angles, like walls or the ground in the distance. But for sure, smaller jaggies, or more fidelity along object edges, like making out a person in the distance.

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#18 urio1
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1080p is sorta like a new girlfriend.... she seems soo awesome and stuff until the realization sets in that she's just like the last one lol
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#19 stevoluvmunch
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what ur saying isnt true. on my 23 inch set 1080i is a huge improvement over 720p. If yours doesnt make a difference maybe you should look into getting a new TV,
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="immikeulate"]Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.Miles0T0Prower
Mabey you just got a better quality tv with a higher contrast ratio, I upgraded fom my off brand 37" LCD to my Philips 50" plasma (both 720p) and the difference is very noticable.

I have a high qulity TV its a SABRE(miltitary brand) its has a contrast ration of 1200:1

1200:1 is garbage. A samsung 1080p lcd has a 15000:1 contrast ratio. As i thought, your tv is the problem.

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#21 mbrockway
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There's a big difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080. I'd much rather have the 1080p without antialiasing than 720p with. LCD's look much better at their native res. Ask any pc gamer. Maybe its not as big an issue with plasma, I dunno.
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#22 immikeulate
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There's a big difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080. I'd much rather have the 1080p without antialiasing than 720p with. LCD's look much better at their native res. Ask any pc gamer. Maybe its not as big an issue with plasma, I dunno.mbrockway

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#23 Terami
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[QUOTE="Miles0T0Prower"]

Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

aajohnny
lol dude I got a 1080p massive tv....belive me it looks good,the only reason it may look the same cuz half the things out today are in 720p or 1080i....wait till tv stations and stuff comes to 1080p you'll see the difference.

Yeah, you need a true 1080p source to really show the difference. Unfortunately, most games are in 720p, so no, he will not see a difference. When you see a true 1080p image, it looks much better than a 720p one. (my opinion, based on my own experience with my 1080p display)
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[QUOTE="immikeulate"]Because you only have a 720p TV I wouldn't expect you to understand. If/when you do upgrade you'll be feeling the same way. By the way don't listen to people who say there's not much a difference becasue there is, I would know I upgraded & its a completly different experiance. trust your eyes not forum posts.Miles0T0Prower
the difference cant be that big at 26inch

Try 42! hehe
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#25 analog10
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If and when 2160p becomes avaliable 1080p owners will start sining the 720p song.
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#26 TimothyB
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If and when 2160p becomes avaliable 1080p owners will start sining the 720p song.analog10

I don't think I'd need that resolution until I had my own home theater room with 100-200inch screen. And you'd need a whole new format again. Right now, 65inch 1080p at 11 feet looks great. If I were to pay more for a new tv it would be for one with 1,000,000-to-1 contrast.

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#27 Terami
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[QUOTE="analog10"]If and when 2160p becomes avaliable 1080p owners will start sining the 720p song.TimothyB

I don't think I'd need that resolution until I had my own home theater room with 100-200inch screen. And you'd need a whole new format again. Right now, 65inch 1080p at 11 feet looks great. If I were to pay more for a new tv it would be for one with 1,000,000-to-1 contrast.

I think 1080p is going to be a standard for a few years to come, anyways, no?
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#28 TimothyB
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[QUOTE="Miles0T0Prower"]

Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

aajohnny

lol dude I got a 1080p massive tv....belive me it looks good,the only reason it may look the same cuz half the things out today are in 720p or 1080i....wait till tv stations and stuff comes to 1080p you'll see the difference.

1080i tv stations look near 1080p already on 1080p tvs.

Though, an unbelievable amount of people think their HDTV with a native 720p/768p are somehow 1080i tvs just because it supports 1080i input. I have to shake my head everytime I hear someone say "my 32inch 1080i LCD" and then assume because they are already getting 1080i (when they are not) that 1080p wouldn't be that different.

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#29 Denji
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[QUOTE="Miles0T0Prower"]

Ok alot od articles and threads say does this run in 1080p and I dont get it whats so special about 1080p.

Unless you have a big televsion at the momemt 1080p looks looks the same as 720p

why do you all get most moist for 1080p answer me this

I have a720p lcd atm

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I ain't rich either. But I did manage to pull off a 27" HD TV for 960 (save save save) 1080i max though.

But I don't know. I'm just fine with 720p. It's HD for goodness sakes. 720p is a well enough great resolution for HD. Until they progress HD technology past 1080p (when you can actually notice a difference) then worry about it.

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#30 Nolan16
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smaller TV's 720p and 1080p look identical put if you have a 42inch LCD 1080P HDTV with a 15000:1 ratio there's a noticeable differencebelieve me i know because i have 2 vizos a 42 inch and a 37 inch plus a 65 inch DLP my roomies bought the 37 I bought the 42 and we both paid for the 65, and 1080P there's a huge noticeable difference it looks a lot crisper. PS3 is native 1080P on the PS3 Menu those who have 1080P Switch to 720P and look at the resolution difference and the crisp of the letters they get bigger and blurrier.

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#31 analog10
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[QUOTE="TimothyB"]

[QUOTE="analog10"]If and when 2160p becomes avaliable 1080p owners will start sining the 720p song.Terami

I don't think I'd need that resolution until I had my own home theater room with 100-200inch screen. And you'd need a whole new format again. Right now, 65inch 1080p at 11 feet looks great. If I were to pay more for a new tv it would be for one with 1,000,000-to-1 contrast.

I think 1080p is going to be a standard for a few years to come, anyways, no?

I'm not sure that there is a standard. But imagine the processing power needed to display 2160p images let alone up-scaling DVD( how awful would it look?). So I would think that 1080p will become the norm but there are bandwidth issues for broadcasters if your interested in freeview. At the end of the day even though I'm a 720p owner I would go for a 1080p if I were to get a large display like a projector. But I am very happy with 720p @ "40 with a 9ft viewing distance. Oh and TimothyB, your in the sweet spot mate ;)

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#32 avataraang1
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Ill find out the diffrence tommorow when i get my Ps3
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I have a 60" 1080p HDTV. From where I sit, you can't tell that it's 720p upscaled to 1080p, but when you get closer, you can tell.

I have to admit, it does look a bit sharper, but it'snot a big difference.

I'm kind of upset that you have to tell your PS3 that your TV doesn't support 720p or 1080i to run COD4 in 1080p and I really don't want to switch everytime I change games. I'll just wait until they patch it (hopefully they do patch it).

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#34 analog10
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PS3 is native 1080P on the PS3 Menu those who have 1080P Switch to 720P and look at the resolution difference and the crisp of the letters they get bigger and blurrier.

Nolan16

Yes but your upscalling 720p to fit the 1080p display.

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#35 TimothyB
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I have a 60" 1080p HDTV. From where I sit, you can't tell that it's 720p upscaled to 1080p, but when you get closer, you can tell.

I have to admit, it does look a bit sharper, but it's nothing to make a big difference.

I'm kind of upset that you have to tell your PS3 that your TV doesn't support 720p or 1080i to run COD4 in 1080p and I really don't want to switch everytime I change games. I'll just wait until they patch it (hopefully they do patch it).

dewmandew7

Is COD4 a true 1080p game? I haven't read much about resolutions and differences with the 360 version. Or is this another case of just a software uspcaler ibuilt into COD4 and it's actually a 720p native game?

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#36 Nolan16
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its 720p native
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One reason is because Sony went on and on about the 1080p compatibility during E3 and most of the games are not in 1080p. We're just waiting for Sony to deliver more 1080p games because we know Sony can do that. (It would be a lot easier if the PS3 had more RAM though) I have a 1080i (Truly 1080i) 42" Panasonic plasma HDTV (I have no problems with burn ins AT ALL) and I want my games to run in 1080p because my PS3 says it is running on 1080p. I know it's not truly 1080p but it is better than 1080i.
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#38 TimothyB
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One reason is because Sony went on and on about the 1080p compatibility during E3 and most of the games are not in 1080p. We're just waiting for Sony to deliver more 1080p games because we know Sony can do that. (It would be a lot easier if the PS3 had more RAM though) I have a 1080i (Truly 1080i) 42" Panasonic plasma HDTV (I have no problems with burn ins AT ALL) and I want my games to run in 1080p because my PS3 says it is running on 1080p. I know it's not truly 1080p but it is better than 1080i.Anamosa41

Remember the time when the PS3 was said to have two HDMI for dual 1080p display use, lol.

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#39 analog10
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LOL so true. I take what SONY says with a grain of salt. No rumble anyone.
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#40 LittleYoshi
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There is a big different between 720p and 1080p.......if you can't tell make sure you have HD cables and a 1080p TV......or get some glasses......
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#41 analog10
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There is a big different between 720p and 1080p.......if you can't tell make sure you have HD cables and a 1080p TV......or get some glasses......LittleYoshi

Get two 40" TVs one 1080p and the other 720p sit them side by side and feed them their respective native signal then view them both from 7-10 feet and tell me there is a big difference.

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#42 Arsenal325
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my 1080p 52 inch sony bravia FTW
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#43 Anamosa41
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[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]One reason is because Sony went on and on about the 1080p compatibility during E3 and most of the games are not in 1080p. We're just waiting for Sony to deliver more 1080p games because we know Sony can do that. (It would be a lot easier if the PS3 had more RAM though) I have a 1080i (Truly 1080i) 42" Panasonic plasma HDTV (I have no problems with burn ins AT ALL) and I want my games to run in 1080p because my PS3 says it is running on 1080p. I know it's not truly 1080p but it is better than 1080i.TimothyB

Remember the time when the PS3 was said to have two HDMI for dual 1080p display use, lol.

LOL Yeah I do remember that. I thought that would be so cool. Of course, that was before I learned that Sony has a hard time with keeping promises.
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#44 LittleYoshi
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[QUOTE="LittleYoshi"]There is a big different between 720p and 1080p.......if you can't tell make sure you have HD cables and a 1080p TV......or get some glasses......analog10

Get two 40" TVs one 1080p and the other 720p sit them side by side and feed them a 1080p signal then view them both from 7-10 feet and tell me there is a big difference.

done.......not that big though....but still there is a difference

P.S. the big number (1080p) eats the small number (720p) Don't you know your fractions?! lol

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#45 Nolan16
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How do you know your TV is true 1080p and not just 1080i upscale? becuase of the little sticker it has on it that says 1080p lol?

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#46 Anamosa41
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How do you know your TV is true 1080p and not just 1080i upscale? becuase of the little sticker it has on it that says 1080p lol?

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#47 Nolan16
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any one that knows the answer =p

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#48 analog10
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[QUOTE="analog10"]

[QUOTE="LittleYoshi"]There is a big different between 720p and 1080p.......if you can't tell make sure you have HD cables and a 1080p TV......or get some glasses......LittleYoshi

Get two 40" TVs one 1080p and the other 720p sit them side by side and feed them a 1080p signal then view them both from 7-10 feet and tell me there is a big difference.

done.......not that big though....but still there is a difference

P.S. the big number (1080p) eats the small number (720p) Don't you know your fractions?! lol

I agree that there is a difference but is it a $1000 difference?

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#49 Anoch20
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If you have the right content there is a difference.
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#50 iamshivy
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i'm kicking it old school with my SD tv . 32" ya.. lol