where are all the good RPG games???

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#1 DorkiieTimmy
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like the topic says, where are all the good rpg games. this is the got damn playstation 3. playstation is known for good rpg games. and yet, where are they. none to be found. we have no real good rpg games. we dont star oceans, of final fantasy, kingdom hearts, anything. c'mon now. untold legends, oblivion, games like those are not considered as rpg games. yes they are classified as rpg. but they are mainly meant to be action adventure games. main reason i got a ps3, was for rpg games. and yet none to be found. answers anyone????????????????????????
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#2 -Hoax-
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Calm Down.

Would rather have a rushed RPG so you can RANT more about or an RPG thats better then the rest?

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#3 CM3000
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rpg's have always taken a long time to make, because of storyline, large worlds, complex gameplay, or whatever. I think they will come, there is still hope!

not like the other consoles have been doing any better in that area though..

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#4 The_Pig_Hostage
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I swear, there's at least one of these threads EVERY DAY.
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#5 sssb
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yeah u right we need lot of rpg, when i look at 360 having many rpg i get angry, for me rpg is best genre that, damn sony console don't have at less any rpg at all, to be honest thinking of pick 360.

360's RPG:

1/Infinite Undiscovery

2/Tales of Vesperia (my favorite)

3/The Last Remnant (also ps3)

4/Lost Odyssey

5/Blue Dragon

and more...

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#6 Maggot_FF
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disgaea 3 much?
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Inside Bill Gate's a$$.
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#8 James_Milamber
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sssb: You forgot Mass Effect...

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#9 steel_0
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Guve them more time we want a must have RPPG like FFXIII not some crap.
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#10 jt4mtb
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I swear, there's at least one of these threads EVERY DAY.The_Pig_Hostage

Seriously. It's getting kind of old.

disgaea 3 much?Maggot_FF

Indeed. I know I've been killing my time on this one for the past two weeks. Currently 60 hours in and counting.

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#11 TheTenth10
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as if it wasn't obvious :

Micrcrap pays developers for "timed exclusivity", meaning they compensate the non sales on the other platform by giving them an approximate amount of money that is the equivalent to what the developer would have earned in sales of the game. The problem is that they add a clause where the said developer cannot reveal the time length when the game will be released for the other platform, making them LIARS because they say it will NEVER come to the other platform.

Examples from the past : Enchanted arms, Lost planet, Eternal sonata, Bioshock.

Games that will eventually come : Star ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia, GTA downloadable content, Mass effect

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#12 DorkiieTimmy
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whoa whoa whoa first hold up.

i looked under ps3 board and didnt see one forum about a non-existant rpgs topic so everyday a new one comes out is complete bs and if you have a problem with hearing about them than dont click on the forum and dont post, why do i care if your tired of them.

second disgea 3 or whatever was dreadful to me, if i want to play a game that looks and feels like it was meant for the ps1 or portable gaming console il go back and get my sega game gear and play some games.

yes rpgs take some time to come out thats not new, but that is no excuse most games are put into works for many years prior to a new system coming out and such, and sadly if you look at the 360 they are coming out with many an rpg you look at the ps3 and yes you have your old series ff, star ocean and such but where are the new and refreshing ones, the ones that is a risk or innovative, yes i know there are a few. You dont have to tell me the clause sony had the time clause on gta ... Sony is dropping the ball huge on games and its sad.

maybe if there was a game out right now worth playing it wouldnt seem like eternity till one of these games comes out, but there isnt to me.

dont mention games like mgs4,gta4,cod4,rfom,uncharted,dmc4 and so on already played them beat them got all the awards and done with them.
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#13 deactivated-5ea874e06483b
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yeah u right we need lot of rpg, when i look at 360 having many rpg i get angry, for me rpg is best genre that, damn sony console don't have at less any rpg at all, to be honest thinking of pick 360.

360's RPG:

1/Infinite Undiscovery

2/Tales of Vesperia (my favorite)

3/The Last Remnant (also ps3)

4/Lost Odyssey

5/Blue Dragon

and more...

sssb


Infinite Undiscovery is such a dissapointment.:?
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Games are much more expensive to produce this generation, and really impressive RPGs were alreadya pricey endeavor last generation. Today it is going to take more money and much more time to develop games, particularly rpgs, so it is natural that there are going to be less. Because of this "restructuring" it is going to take time for developers to start churning out games like they were at the end of the PS2 cycle.

The end of the PS2 cycle spoiled us all, like 50 new games every day...makes us quite impatient.

As for the XBox sure they have some rpgs, they are doing this as a marketing move to capture some of sonys fanbase. Sony produced many FPS because those are popular and were selling extremely well on the 360, so they thought they could capture part of that audience. It was unexpected that Microsoft would try to turn the tables on them and try to claim the RPG market, but that is what they are trying to do, and in the end I think this is a GOOD thing.

Think about it, if sony sees its precious RPG fanbase moving to the 360 then what do you think they are going to try to do. They are going to try and recapture that market. It is possible that in the next few years we will see a new surge of RPGs that will satisfy us untill the next generation when the same draught will come and more people will begin to cry.

Also if can't enjoy the masterpeice of gameplay that is Disgaea then Foo on you. Then again we all have our own opinions, I'm sure there are games out there that you like that I don't but oh well, hatred is the way of the gamer these days right? Ok enough with my very long post basically about nothing. *Bamf*

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#15 Gesyma
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rpg's have always taken a long time to make, because of storyline, large worlds, complex gameplay, or whatever. I think they will come, there is still hope!

not like the other consoles have been doing any better in that area though..

CM3000

uhh... actually there is one in particular that has...

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#16 Gesyma
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as if it wasn't obvious :

Micrcrap pays developers for "timed exclusivity", meaning they compensate the non sales on the other platform by giving them an approximate amount of money that is the equivalent to what the developer would have earned in sales of the game. The problem is that they add a clause where the said developer cannot reveal the time length when the game will be released for the other platform, making them LIARS because they say it will NEVER come to the other platform.

Examples from the past : Enchanted arms, Lost planet, Eternal sonata, Bioshock.

Games that will eventually come : Star ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia, GTA downloadable content, Mass effect

TheTenth10

Mass Effect is published by Microsoft so that's probably not going to happen.

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#17 DorkiieTimmy
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it is a huge diappointment seeing the ps2 have new games so my eagerness for a good game coming out is being shunned by that. As for sony doing something about microsoft stealing fanbase so far sony seems to be just taking it up the ... (you know what), but i am sure they have alot of secrets like MAG they we arent made aware of. Microsoft is buying up everything and so the sony gamers have nothing to keep us on this system except hope that something is coming.

If you think about it exculsives going to xbox plus other games, more games and such... whats really keeping us on this system, and for me its rpgs, with non existant ones its frustrating... although playing the xbox if nothing comes out for the ps3 i would just stop playing games lol.
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#18 Meko_Gear_Solid
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bah no worries man i hear ya but the rpgs are on the way and all the 360 rpgs so far are mediocre at best until star ocean comes out.. but besides that one title we arent missing out on much right now 360s strategy running off the ff13 multiplat momentum they are desperatly trying to advertise how superior they are with jrpgs BUT DO NOT worry or panic just like hd dvd before it and games like bio shock for example and other microsofts timed exclusives time will run out and things will become even and M$'s momemtum will stop and they will probably make xbox3 or some crap and finaly their flame will be extinguished
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#19 TheKonspiracy
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i know what you mean, considering the success of the genre on the PS1 PS2 and now with the PSP getting alot of RPGs, you'd expect the PS3 to have atleast afew more than it has now, but then again i'm assuming that RPGs usually are the types of games that take the longest development time, judging by the scale and length of the games. Hopefully sony announces atleast one NEW RPG at TGS, and I expect there to be quite afew PS3 RPG announcements by third parties in mid '09.
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#20 Asage429
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If you mean good RPG's you need to pick up a handheld system. The DS and PSP are getting better RPG's than are coming out for the consoles so far. If you just want any RPG, then the 360 is your best bet. Mass Effect was a good game and I like the recently released tales game, but Blue Dragon was so bad I never even bought it after playing the demo, Undiscovery is a hugely flawed game and Lost Oddesy isn't anything special. If you're hoping for the RPG golden age of the PS1 and PS2, I think it'll take a few years at least. We'll see what happens at TGS. Keep an eye out for Valkyrie Chronicles though, that is supposed to be a good one.
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#21 DorkiieTimmy
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i never got into the whole hand held console had the gameboy and gamegear but thats where that ended lol... i figured it was going to take a few years and sony wants to release quality over quanity as they said whereas microsoft seems to be putting out quanity over quality. Unfortunately the games out for the ps3 right now are not the best quality and still no quanity so we are getting dual shafted.

no game out right now (for me) has a lasting appeal which a rpg usually satisfies, unless it has online like cod4 (i find annoying now)... so to my dismay i will turn on my system ponder 10 mins turn it off and go do something contructive with my time (bar) lol, untill some games come out.
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#23 MaximumD
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If you are into Strategy JRPG's, get Disgaea 3. It's a really good game.
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#24 ofitser
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well, i dont personally like those jrpgs , but im looking forward to rise of the argonauts. i hope it will be good. you can hrow spears into people and cut their heads off. thats cool.
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#25 plg2307
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- Rise of the Argonauts: 14 Oct. 2008

- Eternal Sonata: 21 Oct. 2008

- Fallout 3: 28 Oct. 2008

- Valkyria Chronicles: Novembre 2008

- The last Remnant: TBA 2008 (hopefully we don't get shafted on this one)

- White knight story: TBA 2008 early 2009 (They said they were aiming at getting it out before end of fiscal year so march max) If I'm wrong please correct me

Here are your RPGs

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- Rise of the Argonauts: 14 Oct. 2008

- Eternal Sonata: 21 Oct. 2008

- Fallout 3: 28 Oct. 2008

- Valkyria Chronicles: Novembre 2008

- The last Remnant: TBA 2008 (hopefully we don't get shafted on this one)

- White knight story: TBA 2008 early 2009 (They said they were aiming at getting it out before end of fiscal year so march max) If I'm wrong please correct me

Here are your RPGs

plg2307

rise of the argonauts, please, more like an action adventure games. so many gaes like these are wannabes to god of war, and devil may cry.

eternal sonata, please, it was a big joke on the 360, but supposedly, for ps3, they are making it better and adding in new stuff to it...

fallout 3, not an rpg, more like action adventure/3ps. again not an rpg

valkryia chronicles, please, looks and sounds like a big joke. wouldnt get my hopes up.

the last remnant, another 360 crap rpg game coming to the ps3.

white knight story, now ive read about this games. sounds good, and im actually having high hopes for this game. so we will see.

in conclussion, most games on the ps3 are not rpg. put down as rpg, but they are not.

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#27 HerktheSnake
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on the ps2.
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#28 Zigeye
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Old RPG is dead, long live MMO! hahahaha
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#29 Staryoshi87
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All of my beloved JRPGs are failing over to the 360. Only reason I miss my 360 anymore is Lost Odyssey and the others :P At least Eternal Sonata is coming at the end of October, it's fantastic.
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#30 CONMAN999PS
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I swear, there's at least one of these threads EVERY DAY.The_Pig_Hostage

I know and it's REALLY annoying. And how the hell is Oblivion not an RPG???

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#31 pyromaniac223
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Huh. Was there some owner requirement in the PS3 manual that said that if you own a PS3, you have to hate MS and call it really childish names and claim that it throws money everywhere?
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#32 gamenerd15
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Most of the JRPG's on 360 are not that great. Lost Odyssey is just Final Fantasy 4 gameplay with the exploration of Final Fantasy 10. Blue Dragon is a cheap Dragon Quest rip off. Eternal Sonata was alright, but the combat got a bit too repetitive. Tales of Vesperia seems pretty good. Infinite Undiscovery just feels like Star Ocean only with a different name. I got a 360 for JRPG's but most of them on it aren't worth mentioning. You only feel that way because the PS3 doesn't have RPG's. You aren't missing out.

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#33 macfaelan
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...just discovered that star ocean 4 is 360 exclusive :( what the hell? i might consider buyin the dreaded xbox now just to get this game
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#34 67gt500
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I have been wondering the same thing... PS3 should be home to some amazing RPG action yet to date the offerings have been mediocre and forgettable...

The machine is capable of delivering console RPG's on a scale never before possible, and yet... ???

It really is frustrating when you think about it...

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#35 Staryoshi87
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Most of the JRPG's on 360 are not that great. Lost Odyssey is just Final Fantasy 4 gameplay with the exploration of Final Fantasy 10. Blue Dragon is a cheap Dragon Quest rip off. Eternal Sonata was alright, but the combat got a bit too repetitive. Tales of Vesperia seems pretty good. Infinite Undiscovery just feels like Star Ocean only with a different name. I got a 360 for JRPG's but most of them on it aren't worth mentioning. You only feel that way because the PS3 doesn't have RPG's. You aren't missing out.

gamenerd15

Lost Odyssey is one of my favorite JRPGs of all time due to its emphasis on story and its dream system.

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Inside Bill Gate's a$$.skp_16

bahahaha that made me laff.

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#37 jsmoke03
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theyll be here soon

as for ps3, they're getting shafted for now, but i think atlus is being very carefull about rpg's and what platform they release it on....put it all on one basket is dangerous for companies like them.

as far as se, they always jump ship...but they are at least giving us a couple of games...rather have 60% support rather than none...

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#38 macfaelan
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at this rate, with all the FPS games coming to PS3 and all the RPGs goin to Xbox, all the xbox owners will move to ps3 and all the ps3 owners will move to xbox lol. its stupid, the consoles should have just stuck with the games that defined them.

playstation people tend to prefer story, wheras xbox people prefer action... so why arnt the companies giving them what they want

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#39 itwiz90
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Hold on they are coming and they should be good, too.

8)

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#40 gamenerd15
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The dream dialogue's were retarded. The story was very cliched other than the immortal characters.
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#41 jeffbase33
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like the topic says, where are all the good rpg games. this is the got damn playstation 3. playstation is known for good rpg games. and yet, where are they. none to be found. we have no real good rpg games. we dont star oceans, of final fantasy, kingdom hearts, anything. c'mon now. untold legends, oblivion, games like those are not considered as rpg games. yes they are classified as rpg. but they are mainly meant to be action adventure games. main reason i got a ps3, was for rpg games. and yet none to be found. answers anyone????????????????????????DorkiieTimmy

Most of the JRPGS are going to DS and PSP. In fact, a new star ocean comes out on PSP soon! The next gen stuff is going straight to Xbox right now. I'm playing Tales of Vesperia and it's amazing. If you are a RPG fan, u have to own all systems these days. It's sad.

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#42 AgentA-Mi6
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All we can Do is wait or Play them on Psp/Ps2.
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#43 VanHelsingBoA64
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I have a feeling the TC is trolling....

But, if you're serious Folklore and Disgea 3 are already out and Valkyrie Chronicles and Eternal Sonata are coming later this year.

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#44 1uP_OnYou
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While they might not be Ps3 games, there are two rpg's coming in in December for the Ps2 namingly Persona 4 and Ar Tonelico II. Both of these gems will be freaking awesome! :) Trust me and get both.
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#45 pyromaniac223
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at this rate, with all the FPS games coming to PS3 and all the RPGs goin to Xbox, all the xbox owners will move to ps3 and all the ps3 owners will move to xbox lol. its stupid, the consoles should have just stuck with the games that defined them.

playstation people tend to prefer story, wheras xbox people prefer action... so why arnt the companies giving them what they want

macfaelan
Because those are really bad fanboy stereotypes that game companies and marketers see right through. Because you hear people on a forum say OMG ALL XBOTS LUV FPS AND THATS IT, doesn't mean that the game companies think the same way.
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#46 xX_-X-_Xx
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I have a feeling the TC is trolling....

But, if you're serious Folklore and Disgea 3 are already out and Valkyrie Chronicles and Eternal Sonata are coming later this year.

VanHelsingBoA64


how is he trolling, i know hes not lol, cant you tell the first post and his last post are the same, grammer crappy, weird statements but the ones in between are actually well thought out comments, seems like two different people typed them... lol

anyways seeing how it was really my forum folklore was a bust even though it was pretty good those cutscenes where you had to read just didnt feel next gen... high expectations were not met. As for DIS(blah blah blah) 3 READ WHAT I TYPED UNDER HIS ACCOUNT... DID NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT LIKE it... read before you post! lol

once again disgea 3 no NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO! for the last time NOOOOOOOOOOO, although i can see why some people would find it fun, not for me.

and the games coming out dont seem anywhere near how good they should be (time wise)... valkyrie chroncicles looks like crap but i will still play it to see gameplay wise and eternal sonata said to be good so i will probably try it out.
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#48 Meko_Gear_Solid
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If you mean good RPG's you need to pick up a handheld system. The DS and PSP are getting better RPG's than are coming out for the consoles so far. If you just want any RPG, then the 360 is your best bet. Mass Effect was a good game and I like the recently released tales game, but Blue Dragon was so bad I never even bought it after playing the demo, Undiscovery is a hugely flawed game and Lost Oddesy isn't anything special. If you're hoping for the RPG golden age of the PS1 and PS2, I think it'll take a few years at least. We'll see what happens at TGS. Keep an eye out for Valkyrie Chronicles though, that is supposed to be a good one.Asage429

very very well said man portables have great rpgs n upcomming but ps3 isent left in the dust at all its all comming n valkyria chronicles is out very soon.. but its just the principal i know so far all the jrps on xbox suck big time.. but that will prolly change esspecially when star ocean 4 comes out... but i know all will just be a timed release but it just seems like such a slap in the face square enix n similair devs throwing ther ps fans to the side for money.. i really dont think it will benefitthem in the long run.. unless they reconsile ther mistakes really soon then it might bring alot of 360 ff13 users over to ps3 ^^moreso because ff13 will be better on ps3 and it seems ff13 and other ff projects will be ps3 only..

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#49 Meko_Gear_Solid
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[QUOTE="plg2307"]

- Rise of the Argonauts: 14 Oct. 2008

- Eternal Sonata: 21 Oct. 2008

- Fallout 3: 28 Oct. 2008

- Valkyria Chronicles: Novembre 2008

- The last Remnant: TBA 2008 (hopefully we don't get shafted on this one)

- White knight story: TBA 2008 early 2009 (They said they were aiming at getting it out before end of fiscal year so march max) If I'm wrong please correct me

Here are your RPGs

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rise of the argonauts, please, more like an action adventure games. so many gaes like these are wannabes to god of war, and devil may cry.

eternal sonata, please, it was a big joke on the 360, but supposedly, for ps3, they are making it better and adding in new stuff to it...

fallout 3, not an rpg, more like action adventure/3ps. again not an rpg

valkryia chronicles, please, looks and sounds like a big joke. wouldnt get my hopes up.

the last remnant, another 360 crap rpg game coming to the ps3.

white knight story, now ive read about this games. sounds good, and im actually having high hopes for this game. so we will see.

in conclussion, most games on the ps3 are not rpg. put down as rpg, but they are not.

man no offence but you got white night story accuratly pinned n eternal sonata which i couldnt care less for and i guess your most likely right about the last remnant.. i duno just seems to me as a game that will be made just cus they can.. i hope it will be good but i dont see it happening especially after all this infinite uniscovery dragon quest swords stuff.. but man your totally wrong about rise of the argonaughts and valkkyria chronicles n esspecially fallout 3 man these titles will be aaa staples of the future on ps3 gaming man you will see!

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#50 Meko_Gear_Solid
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...just discovered that star ocean 4 is 360 exclusive :( what the hell? i might consider buyin the dreaded xbox now just to get this gamemacfaelan

dude no worries star ocean will prolly be a sweet game but it will be 360s only aaa jrpg until ff13 of course but star ocean and Tales of Vesperia 360s only current decent jrp i guarantee will only be a timed exclusive like 90% of 360s games xcept crap like halo 3.. the rpgs xcept that horrible odysey w.e will be on ps3!