Where did all my memory go?!?!

I bought a 120gb slim like 4 days ago and I set it up and connected to the playstation network and then I downloaded playstation home and I popped in my Madden 10. After I finished playing I went to system information and I noticed it said that I have 94gb/111gb left. I know that the system uses some memory for itself but seriously does it take that much GB? I went to my saved data to see but home and madden didnt even take a GB. So im wondering where all my memory went

Not exactly sure if this is true of the PS3 HDDs, but when you format a HDD on a PC, the available space is about 20GB less than the maximum capacity of the HDD itself. So that 120GB drive post-format is only going to have about 100GB of space to use.

PlaystationHome is HUGE.

Not exactly sure if this is true of the PS3 HDDs, but when you format a HDD on a PC, the available space is about 20GB less than the maximum capacity of the HDD itself. So that 120GB drive post-format is only going to have about 100GB of space to use.

Ein-7919

PlaystationHome is HUGE.

Furi-Kun

Playstation Home is only 3GB on my PS3 at the moment, and fully up to date.

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

PlaystationHome is HUGE.

joseph_mach

Playstation Home is only 3GB on my PS3 at the moment, and fully up to date.

Which is HUGE.

[QUOTE="joseph_mach"]

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

PlaystationHome is HUGE.

Furi-Kun

Playstation Home is only 3GB on my PS3 at the moment, and fully up to date.

Which is HUGE.

[QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

Not exactly sure if this is true of the PS3 HDDs, but when you format a HDD on a PC, the available space is about 20GB less than the maximum capacity of the HDD itself. So that 120GB drive post-format is only going to have about 100GB of space to use.

GhostRiderMike

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

[QUOTE="GhostRiderMike"][QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

Not exactly sure if this is true of the PS3 HDDs, but when you format a HDD on a PC, the available space is about 20GB less than the maximum capacity of the HDD itself. So that 120GB drive post-format is only going to have about 100GB of space to use.

Ein-7919

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

[QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

[QUOTE="GhostRiderMike"] But I didn't format it on a PC, I just set it up downloaded home and played Madden 10 on it and that's it. There is no reason that I should only have 94GB left. And i don't know why it said that I have 94gb/111gb instead of saying 94gb/120gbGhostRiderMike

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

Yep that makes sense as mine takes is 74 gb max.and I have 80gb so same%.The operating system is goint ot take around 5-10. 3gb for home and 1gb for madden. You would think then you would have worst case 111-10-3-1=98. Not sure why you only have 94.

Also check the back of madden, see how much the game install is?

Does the system also reserve for updates or something also?

i ate it :? i'm so sorry, i was really hungry :(kweeni

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Did you... GigaByte it?

i'm assuming it is because of the install for madden, i bought a ps3 slim when it came out and i have 11 games

batman/bioshock/call of duty 4/gt5prologue/gta4/killzone2/ratchet&clank future/resistance fall of man/ street fighter4/the orange box/ uncharted and i have 76gb/111gb left. i know for sure that the 111gb is what u get out of the box because the ps3 memory is taken away and aside for updates and such, my 360 hdd does the same.

Just to let you know, 94GB is perfectly normal, its just how the addressing scheme works.

If you are curious read below.

The missing HDD space is a simple case of the HDD manufacturer and OS differing in their definitions of memory. The OS has always defined memory units in terms of base "2" numbering due to the binary nature of addressing (1024 bytes in KB, 1024 KB in MB, 1024 MB in GB). This yields 1.074*10^9 bytes per GB. However, someone in the HDD business years ago decided that if they redefined the GB as 1*10^9 (a billion bytes) they could market the same HD disks as larger capacities (and get more $$) than what the OS would recognize. This definition is always stated on the box in extremely small print to legally cover themselves. By this relationship your OS actually has about 93% of what is listed on the box, that is why you only see 298GB instead of 320GB. This linear relationship is the reason why as HDD capacities increase, the number of GB's missing also increases.

The exact same thing happens with your 120GB HDD, its showing 94GB because of the scheme. If you want more proof, take a look at your PC, you would have something like a 320GB HDD or 500GB or something, but its not really 320GB or 500GB. Just right click on a HDD and go to properties, then look at the number of bytes (total), and look beside that.

I hope that explains why you are only seeing 94GB.

I guess it depends on updates to the system (assuming you updated). That would take up space and if Sony reserved space on the HDD itself then it could be around 94. Also i know Home uses X amount of gigs, but i think it actually reserves some extra space too just in case (doesn't it say like 12 gigs or something the first time you start it... or is it 3... i don't know that was months ago and i never went back.... and deleted it.....). So Home could possibly taking more space than it actually shows.... just a guess though.

And to the guy telling us about how you won't get the full size out of your HDD... we all know that and 94 isn't the right number for that anyway. He has 111 total and right now only 94 is free. It took out about 9 gigs in formant. We all understand that. His question was about the 94 out of 111. He says he hasn't saved that much data to make it that low. But thank you for explaining that... i guess.... you could just have read the previous comments to find out you didn't need to....

Also check the back of madden, see how much the game install is?

acmx22

I guess it depends on updates to the system (assuming you updated). That would take up space and if Sony reserved space on the HDD itself then it could be around 94. Also i know Home uses X amount of gigs, but i think it actually reserves some extra space too just in case (doesn't it say like 12 gigs or something the first time you start it... or is it 3... i don't know that was months ago and i never went back.... and deleted it.....). So Home could possibly taking more space than it actually shows.... just a guess though.

And to the guy telling us about how you won't get the full size out of your HDD... we all know that and 94 isn't the right number for that anyway. He has 111 total and right now only 94 is free. It took out about 9 gigs in formant. We all understand that. His question was about the 94 out of 111. He says he hasn't saved that much data to make it that low. But thank you for explaining that... i guess.... you could just have read the previous comments to find out you didn't need to....

Agent_Kaliaver

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

[QUOTE="joseph_mach"]

Playstation Home is only 3GB on my PS3 at the moment, and fully up to date.

GhostRiderMike

Which is HUGE.

[QUOTE="GhostRiderMike"][QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

Not exactly sure if this is true of the PS3 HDDs, but when you format a HDD on a PC, the available space is about 20GB less than the maximum capacity of the HDD itself. So that 120GB drive post-format is only going to have about 100GB of space to use.

Ein-7919

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

Just to let you know, 94GB is perfectly normal, its just how the addressing scheme works.

If you are curious read below.

The missing HDD space is a simple case of the HDD manufacturer and OS differing in their definitions of memory. The OS has always defined memory units in terms of base "2" numbering due to the binary nature of addressing (1024 bytes in KB, 1024 KB in MB, 1024 MB in GB). This yields 1.074*10^9 bytes per GB. However, someone in the HDD business years ago decided that if they redefined the GB as 1*10^9 (a billion bytes) they could market the same HD disks as larger capacities (and get more $$) than what the OS would recognize. This definition is always stated on the box in extremely small print to legally cover themselves. By this relationship your OS actually has about 93% of what is listed on the box, that is why you only see 298GB instead of 320GB. This linear relationship is the reason why as HDD capacities increase, the number of GB's missing also increases.

The exact same thing happens with your 120GB HDD, its showing 94GB because of the scheme. If you want more proof, take a look at your PC, you would have something like a 320GB HDD or 500GB or something, but its not really 320GB or 500GB. Just right click on a HDD and go to properties, then look at the number of bytes (total), and look beside that.

I hope that explains why you are only seeing 94GB.

Amith12

[QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

jeremiah06

Please don't just jump into a thread without reading what has already been posted. The explanation on the 111GB instead of the 120GB has been fully detailed by Amith. I was simply basing my estimation on my prior experience with laptop HDDs (most commonly [for me] 320GB drives...I haven't used anything smaller than that in years).

EDIT - just saw your double-post about reading Amith's post.

stop complaing newb i have a 40g and am always deledting game data 2 play new ones get over it **** **** try playing mgs4/re4/fo3/gta4 DOUCHE BAG YOUR LUCKY U GOT A SLIM **** GO **** YOURSELF

LeeSan420

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You could always replace the HDD with a larger capacity one...

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

I don't think it matters if you format it on a PC or on your PS3. The principle remains the same. You're 120GB HDD starts out with 100GB available fresh out of the box.

Ein-7919

Please don't just jump into a thread without reading what has already been posted. The explanation on the 111GB instead of the 120GB has been fully detailed by Amith. I was simply basing my estimation on my prior experience with laptop HDDs (most commonly [for me] 320GB drives...I haven't used anything smaller than that in years).

yeah if i had a real job

I read everything before I got up to your post Amith didn't post until after you did which is why I couldn't have read it before I saw yours.jeremiah06

Which is why I'm saying that you should read everything before you hit 'reply' or 'quote'. In any case, it doesn't really matter since we were both incorrect about different aspects of the same concern (I was incorrect as to the amount of space taken by the addressing, and you were incorrect as to why the amount of space was reduced).

ive always wanted to up my hdd but im on the verge of homelessness so yah might need 2 sell my ps3 and 30 games

ive always wanted to up my hdd but im on the verge of homelessness so yah might need 2 sell my ps3 and 30 games

LeeSan420

$34.28 (that includes shipping) for a 160GB drive.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]I read everything before I got up to your post Amith didn't post until after you did which is why I couldn't have read it before I saw yours.Ein-7919

Which is why I'm saying that you should read everything before you hit 'reply' or 'quote'. In any case, it doesn't really matter since we were both incorrect about different aspects of the same concern (I was incorrect as to the amount of space taken by the addressing, and you were incorrect as to why the amount of space was reduced).

[QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]I read everything before I got up to your post Amith didn't post until after you did which is why I couldn't have read it before I saw yours.jeremiah06

Which is why I'm saying that you should read everything before you hit 'reply' or 'quote'. In any case, it doesn't really matter since we were both incorrect about different aspects of the same concern (I was incorrect as to the amount of space taken by the addressing, and you were incorrect as to why the amount of space was reduced).

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Ein-7919"]

Which is why I'm saying that you should read everything before you hit 'reply' or 'quote'. In any case, it doesn't really matter since we were both incorrect about different aspects of the same concern (I was incorrect as to the amount of space taken by the addressing, and you were incorrect as to why the amount of space was reduced).

guynamedbilly

Whatever you cant expect me to read every last post in a multi paged thread. The fact of the matter is I may have been wrong because of lack of the knowledge that Amith posted but you were wrong simple because you didn't fully read TC's post. jeremiah06

Actually, I can expect you to read every last post in a multi-paged thread (especially if it's less than two full pages). It's just being courteous to the other posters in a thread to avoid rehashing material that's already been covered (quite in depth, at times).

As for not fully reading the TC's post, try again. I explained (partially successfully) why he/she wasn't seeing the full 120GB (between the addressing of data, the OS of the PS3, and temp files [not sure if there's a page file that the PS3 OS uses...but if there is, that would definitely have an impact on how much capacity is remaining]...all told, several people [myself included] contributed parts to the why of not being able to see the 'full' 120GB capacity).

EDIT -

Exactly, I read everything before his post, yet he expects me to read the entire thread before I comment? Who really has that much time.jeremiah06

People who want to engage in a coherent, courteous discussion...

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]Whatever you cant expect me to read every last post in a multi paged thread. The fact of the matter is I may have been wrong because of lack of the knowledge that Amith posted but you were wrong simple because you didn't fully read TC's post. Ein-7919

Actually, I can expect you to read every last post in a multi-paged thread (especially if it's less than two full pages). It's just being courteous to the other posters in a thread to avoid rehashing material that's already been covered (quite in depth, at times).

As for not fully reading the TC's post, try again. I explained (partially successfully) why he/she wasn't seeing the full 120GB (between the addressing of data, the OS of the PS3, and temp files [not sure if there's a page file that the PS3 OS uses...but if there is, that would definitely have an impact on how much capacity is remaining]...all told, several people [myself included] contributed parts to the why of not being able to see the 'full' 120GB capacity).

EDIT -

Exactly, I read everything before his post, yet he expects me to read the entire thread before I comment? Who really has that much time.jeremiah06

People who want to engage in a coherent, courteous discussion...

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man learn how 2 plaY get some pLATS AND THEN U CAN SPEAK

Can we stop arguing anytime soon?

Now I almost regret making that post.

man learn how 2 plaY get some pLATS AND THEN U CAN SPEAK

LeeSan420

LOL IM DRUNK GIVe aME Brake i ment tropyhies dead sapce uncharted and falluot 3 soory cant spell drunk*

You stated its normal he should only have 100GB after he already told you his max was 111 and he only has 94 its like that part completely went over your head. As for reading every post I haven't done it so far nor will I ever its the Internet there is no courtesy by design just fast results. The only reason I'm not swearing is because its not allowed.jeremiah06

Read my subsequent posts in response to your posts. Then read them again. See where you're going wrong.

And Amith, sorry about the persistent arguing, but technically, it's not your fault. In fact, your post was incredibly informative and useful (to all parties who were not aware/clear of the disparities between what is advertized and what can actually be utilized).

[QUOTE="kweeni"]i ate it :? i'm so sorry, i was really hungry :(TehSonofUgly

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Did you... GigaByte it?